Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread silky
Tiang Cheng said: > It’s a paradigm shift [...] > > [...] (who is actually a Mac user) Who would've thought :P -- silky (who has no strong feelings one way or the other) On 7/2/10, David Connors wrote: > On 2 July 2010 16:03, Ian Thomas wrote: > >> IMO, Gruen Transfer is produced, populated a

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
On 2 July 2010 16:03, Ian Thomas wrote: > IMO, Gruen Transfer is produced, populated and watched by tools of a > different ilk. > Yeah like Todd Sampson. I cannot stand him. David. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 |

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Tiang Cheng
It's a paradigm shift once I look at the context of the product as an educational tool, used by kids. A group of us are putting together a kids stall at a community fair in late August. We were looking at doing a rock band thing, and have the kids play/sing along, but something like this would

Re: UI Automation Testing Software for Win Forms

2010-07-01 Thread Alan Heywood
MVC is a software pattern whereby M is the model, i.e. where your data is stored. V is the view and C is for controller. Essentially you make your views as stupid as possible, and put all the smarts into a controller. Using the simple example of a login form, you have public interface I

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Ian Thomas
Partners in Learning network (eg, APAC website, here ) likes it as an educational tool. It's available free to most edu institutions, and has been for a long time. IMO, Gruen Transfer is produced, populated and watched by tools of a different ilk. I'

RE: UI Automation Testing Software for Win Forms

2010-07-01 Thread Anthony
The projects are all underdevelopment so i have the source codehave an examples or reference..this is all new to me! What is a model view controller?..sorry for my ignorance. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Alan Heywood Sent: Frida

Re: UI Automation Testing Software for Win Forms

2010-07-01 Thread Alan Heywood
This might not be relevant in your case, it depends on whether you are testing existing software or developing new software. I have had good results with a Model View Controller approach combined with Test Driven Development. Define an interface for all UI interations, test the interaction with S

UI Automation Testing Software for Win Forms

2010-07-01 Thread Anthony
Anyone recommend or have experience with UI Interface testing software. Evaluating TestComplete 7 but anyone have experience with Microsoft TestRun..is it a separate product or part of visual studio? Thanks in Advance Is your website being Int

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread mike smith
On 2 July 2010 09:12, David Connors wrote: > On 2 July 2010 08:33, Alastair Waddell > wrote: >> >> After watching these videos, who wants to collaborate on a project… Think >> Been Folds Five.. Give me my bandwidth back > > Not really wanting to collaborate, but I suggest that Stephen Conroy migh

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread mike smith
On 2 July 2010 08:33, Alastair Waddell wrote: > After watching these videos, who wants to collaborate on a project… > Collaborate, like the French did? > On Behalf Of Dylan Tusler > >  > And my favourite: Queen - We Will Rock You (salsa > style) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22AWPW5s4EA&feature

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Tiang Cheng
I was thinking an Alt .Net collab. Nothing says "fear me" like Gangsta .NET rappers with a midi backing track. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Alastair Waddell Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 6:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Microsoft Songsmith

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
On 2 July 2010 08:33, Alastair Waddell wrote: > After watching these videos, who wants to collaborate on a project… Think > Been Folds Five.. Give me my bandwidth back > Not really wanting to collaborate, but I suggest that Stephen Conroy might be better material for your lyrics. :) David. --

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Alastair Waddell
After watching these videos, who wants to collaborate on a project... Think Been Folds Five.. Give me my bandwidth back -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Dylan Tusler Sent: Friday, 2 July 2010 6:24 AM T

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Dylan Tusler
> And my favourite: Queen - We Will Rock You (salsa style) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22AWPW5s4EA&feature=related That's so bad it's great! I'm getting me one. Dylan. ---

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Kean
Mind you, this is one of the reasons why the rest of Microsoft stay away from the Microsoft Research building, well that, and to avoid the Ballmer/Monkey hybrid that they have been working on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Burstin
And my favourite: Queen - We Will Rock You (salsa style) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22AWPW5s4EA&feature=related On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:16 AM, David Burstin wrote: > Roxanne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWYwY8GpuO0&feature=relat

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Burstin
Roxanne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWYwY8GpuO0&feature=related On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joseph Cooney wrote: > OK, relax everyone.there is a free trial...downloading now > http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Joseph Cooney
OK, relax everyone.there is a free trial...downloading now http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/download.html On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Joseph Cooney wrote: > Aw shucksSongsmith shows up as an item in the 'designer' section of > MSDN subscriber downloa

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Joseph Cooney
Aw shucksSongsmith shows up as an item in the 'designer' section of MSDN subscriber downloads, but when I click on it it says I'm ineligible. Looks like you need an MSDN academic subscription (and possibly also to be tone deaf) to be allowed to download it. Joseph On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:47

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread silky
> > Gruen Fail. > > Totally. We should add 'purposefully out of context' to Wil Andersons regime > of jokes which > mostly are: about 'bogans' and/or plagiarised and/or just plain old not funny. Agreed, but the show is one of the most useless on TV; grandising one of the most dishonest practices

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Les Hughes
Joseph Cooney wrote: One man's cheesy is another man's water-boarding - I like that Also (a lot off topic, a few months old, but in the news today), one countries torture is another countries Waterboarding.. From: http://www.hks.harvard.edu/presspol/publications/papers/torture_at_times_hk

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
On 1 July 2010 21:35, Joseph Cooney wrote: > So have you tried songsmith? > Not with two small kids in the house, no. I don't hate my wife. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +6

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Joseph Cooney
One man's cheesy is another man's water-boarding - I like that So have you tried songsmith? I see it is included in the MSDN. I might download it tonight. Joseph On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:03 PM, David Connors wrote: > On 1 July 2010 20:34, Joseph Cooney wrote: > >> This as intended as a sp

RE: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Greg Low (greglow.com)
Hi Joseph, No, she completed her PhD some time back. Recently she's been working on a secret advanced age-reversing technology as well. That project has backfired though and after she brushed against that guy's notebook, it started growing that odd looking flowering virus on the lid. H

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
On 1 July 2010 20:34, Joseph Cooney wrote: > This as intended as a spoof of cheesy ads (according to the original MSR > site > http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/video_everyonehasasonginside.html > ) > One man's cheesy is another man's water-boarding. It isn't a r

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Joseph Cooney
This as intended as a spoof of cheesy ads (according to the original MSR site http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/video_everyonehasasonginside.html ) It isn't a real professional ad, it's filmed at the Microsoft campus. The green coffee cup with the MS logo on it is a

[OT] - list of melbourne user groups

2010-07-01 Thread silky
I think someone asked for something like this a while back: http://perl.net.au/wiki/Melbourne -- silky -> http://operationblackwolf.wordpress.com/

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
Sorry - wrong YouTube link (Blondie vs SongSmith wasn't that good). The clash video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHHAQouL4HE&feature=related On 1 July 2010 17:15, David Connors wrote: > On 1 July 2010 17:05, Tiang Cheng wrote: > >> Microsoft hits a home run with yet another awesome

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Michael Minutillo
I've always wanted to try SongSmith and somehow never got around to it. Perhaps this is the weekend On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Tiang Cheng wrote: > Microsoft hits a home run with yet another awesome software ad. > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/tv/gruentransfer/stories/s2907954.htm > > > > It’

Re: Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread David Connors
On 1 July 2010 17:05, Tiang Cheng wrote: > Microsoft hits a home run with yet another awesome software ad. > > http://www.abc.net.au/tv/gruentransfer/stories/s2907954.htm > > It’s a real product … > > http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/ > Yeah it did the rounds on

Microsoft Songsmith - Is it friday yet?

2010-07-01 Thread Tiang Cheng
Microsoft hits a home run with yet another awesome software ad. http://www.abc.net.au/tv/gruentransfer/stories/s2907954.htm It's a real product ... http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/ ...and I'm a PC. Tiang