Re: payment gateways

2014-04-22 Thread Stephen Price
Oh my. Guilt tripping me? hahah I'm checking it out. I'm not sure how I'll decide if I find two that are good. Flip a coin perhaps? How did you know they are in Perth? They seem a tiny bit more expensive. 3% instead of 2.9%. C# support page shows a library on github. Not sure if that's a good or

What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Paul Evrat
Hi All, Collins Class Submarine - 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter - 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article -

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
Considering that there are a number of systems it doesn't seem that many. Do they include the unit tests? There are unit tests aren't there in the missile launch systems! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Dave Walker
Wonder what the acceptance tests on a missile launch system would look like. On 23 April 2014 10:57, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that there are a number of systems it doesn't seem that many. Do they include the unit tests? There are unit tests aren't there in the

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Grant Molloy
Oops.. I forgot to use a mock! On Apr 23, 2014 1:25 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder what the acceptance tests on a missile launch system would look like. On 23 April 2014 10:57, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that there are a number of systems

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Greg Keogh
19,000,000 million lines of code for 21,000,000,000 dollars for 58 planes averages out at about $19 per line. Now there's some incentive to code fast. But I enjoy deleting lines of code as well, I wonder if they pay for that -- *Greg K* On 23 April 2014 12:51, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread David Burstin
On 23 April 2014 14:07, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: 19,000,000 million lines of code for snip 19 trillion lines of code? That is impressive.

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-22 Thread Nathan Schultz
I have read somewhere in the media before that TDD is not even being used for the F35's development. I thought writing something so complex without it would be crazy, myself. Not that TDD is a silver-bullet, but in my experience it does make a substantual difference to quality. Hopefully they have