Re: ANF & MIDWIVES

2001-09-04 Thread Jan Robinson
Dear Andrea It is time all professionals that call themselves midwives joined their College and quit their association with nursing unions. A trade union image is not condusive to having midwives publically recognised as professionals in their own right. Unless the ANF is prepared to change t

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2001-09-04 Thread Janet Ireland
3LO 774 re MIDWIVES ETC Jan

RE: ANF & MIDWIVES

2001-09-04 Thread Christine & Tony Holliday
To achieve collective industrial bargaining you need to be organised. You're right that we don't need a union to change to caseload but you do need a union to help with the practical employment issues such as payment. To do it properly takes a lot of time and you need to then pay someone for their

Re: ANF & MIDWIVES

2001-09-04 Thread Greg & Barb Cook
Jan, A wee response- do you know how much it costs the unions to provide members the industrial cover - award representation in courts, appeals, appearances at various tribunals etc for members in a union? Its not cheap. Do you consider union members as hairy chesty warfies or construction workers

Senate inquiry into nursing

2001-09-04 Thread Greg & Barb Cook
Listers, The QNU submission into the Senate Inquiry into Nursing is available on their home page www.qnu.org.au  It is available before the inquiry has begun sittings because parts had been released by the Inquiry itself. This will, hopefully open some listers eyes into factors affecting nurs

Re: a good read

2001-09-04 Thread Carol Thorogood
Hi Katrina Yes I've read the book. I went to hear her speak and it she and the book's content are so inspiring. She speaks so matter of factly about what she and her husband did ( I had a bit of trouble with the missionary zeal and the paternalism though). Catherine H's work and it puts a new

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2001-09-04 Thread Carol Thorogood
Hi I hate to spoil the fun but it is not possible to compare the costs of homebirth and hospitals. They are two different models -  it's like comparing the costs of apples and cherries. Perhaps some whiz bang economists such as the ones from access economics could do it.   I don't think w

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2001-09-04 Thread Colin Larkin
I think all Jan is saying is that the union doesn't seem to be representing midwives as well as it could, and it seems to be concerned firstly with its nursing members, with midwives issues being only a secondary item on their agenda, or at times, not at all. How powerful, affordable or practica

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2001-09-04 Thread Deborah Frame
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