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Thanks
Vicki,
Would
love to see it.
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Great
effort!
Tracey
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ChanSent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 4:12 PMTo:
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[EMAIL
Hi Pinky,
Could I have details of your workshop/talk in Albury
please? Thanks,
Joy
Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLCBRIGHT Vic 3741
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From:
Pinky McKay
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Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002
14:32
Title: Message
Dear Vicki,
I would love an email copy to peruse and
please sent cost info too. I have just
the place to hang it!
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Cheers, Edwina
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From:
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Behalf Of Vicki Chan
Sent:
I train the Ambo volunteers here in thewest - as I am passionate in home birthing, not only are theyall well versed in home birthing practices and have also seen these techniques in practice - two born half way to the major hospital, BUT they all are advocates for natural birthing. As a voli
Just wanted to let everyone know that the picnic in Rymill
Park today, to mark NCAD was fantastic. Thanks to Jo, Carolyn and Emma for
your ongoing dedication and hard work with CARES. Well done!!
Tania
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Vicki,
(re poster)
My email address would be helpful sorry, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thanks
Zena
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From:
Vicki Chan
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:42
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Title: Message
Dear vicki,
Would love to see a copy of the poster. With
thanks..
Zena Coote, Clinical Midwife, Delivery Suite,
Women's and Children's Hospital, North Adelaide.
Please Email my home.
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From:
Vance
Edwina
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Title: Message
AndreaI think everyone on ozmid want to see this poster...is an
attachment permissable???
Vicki
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kirsten
LerstrømSent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:52 AMTo:
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Hi
Edwina... your email didnt get through til tonight (11/9) so too late for your
meeting but I'll post some off in the morning.
Cheers, Vicki
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Vance
EdwinaSent: Tuesday,
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Omigosh! I've
been overwhelmed by the reponses to the poster...There is easy a hundred here
already.I'm trying to work out a way to send it to the list in the body
of the message or am seeking permission to send as an attachment...
MM did you get
yours?
I bet it was hushed up! Yet a person I know was breech at 39
weeks deliveredvaginally as baby turned at the last min - however,
in hindsight - it probably should have been a c/s. Baby had the cord
around it's neck three times (first baby had the same problem,
Yes megan,
I have always wondered this as when I was transfered from Geelong to
Melb with severe PE at 26wks. The Ambo said to me - "It's alright
love, I have delivered babies before!"
I replied, "Oh, I am not going into labour - do you know what to
In a message dated 11/09/02 9:21:51 AM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear All,
I just wanted to add a note to your comment about the effect of ultrasounds
on a baby's hearing. Recently my husband pointed-out to me an article about
ultrasound that he came across in a
Title: Message
Vicki
Please
send me an attachment as well if you cannot put it on ozmid! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kind
regards
Karen
-Original Message-From: Zena Grant Coote
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002
8:25 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
Hi Vicky,
No, attachments don't work on this list for technical reasons. How about
sending the PDF through to our website manager and we will put it up on our
ste. If you give us the ordering details we will include them as well, then
people can send you a cheque or whatever without having to
Yes, my sister had terrible mood swings and got really angry at her nearly
three year old son and her 20 month old daughter. She was depressed and
upset all the time, and has been much better since it was removed. She
now has one of the new generation IUDs and is feeling much more secure
and
Unfortunately many women have come to expect a peek
at every visit. I remember a woman at an antenatal session who queried what she
was paying the money to her ob for when all he did was aske her how she was, and
measured her belly with a tape I told her she didn't know how lucky she
was!!!
Mary this ob can't be very booked out if he can see
womenas early as12 weeks! WHat a worry
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From:
JoFromOz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:33
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal
ultrasounds
They are
Thankyou for your words Cheryl
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From:
CHERYL
JONES
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:26
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello - Brasil
here...
Lynne
I wish to complement you in how
wellyou have
This is one of the issues we have to face now in
practice - becausefew women's pregnancies are "let" go beyond 41 weeks,
there islittle experience within the professions of knowing
womenwhose pregnancies extend (unsurprisingly)beyond even 41 weeks
in may places. I know we have recently had
We have policies for making policies!
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From:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:40
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Gym
balls/birth balls
Please, please don't let anyone have a policy for
the
I wonder what the hooha would be like if they
invented an anal ultrasound to detect prostate enlargement - somehow I don't
think many men would consent to its use
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From:
Mary
Murphy
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002
The correct terminology for this condition is
(ughhh) a 'parasytic twin' (oh to our wonderful terminology again), where there
is incomplete separation of the twins - similar to conjoined twins, but the
second twin can be either fully formed inside the body of the surviving twin, or
And has changed her birthgiving life
forever
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From:
Sally
Westbury
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:52
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] c/s for
breech
I hope that she is
advised to sue. This is gross
Hi Joy
I will be speaking informally to mums with bubs
only at 2.30pm after a babies GymbarOO class on the afternoon of 26 Sept (just
in case later nights arent easy and it can be more specifically to needs of
newer mums) This is no charge and wont be promoted openly, although if you know
I always thought postdates was anything after the EDB.
Post mature, however is when the baby is actually post -term. Now they've
changed when post term is, so postmaturity occurs sooner.
Just clarifying what I meant :)
Jo
Unfortunately, women are sent straight to the Obs by their G.P as soon as
they are aware they are pregnant. Its like an assembly line.
MM
Mary this ob can't be very booked out if he can
see womenas early as12 weeks! WHat a worry
Is the "due date" a stupid mistake or is it me? If research told us
some 10 yrs ago that only 5% of all women have their babies on the "due" date,
then it is not the women and babies that are at fault, but the calculation of
this mythical due date. 95% of women and babies can't be wrong! MM
Dear Ric
Some/many babies DO NOT loose any weight.
Illingworth reported this in the 1950's
it is een when the babies are not stressed and mostly this means have a
truly natural gentle birth and are not seperated from thier mother's there
after ie at home mostly
Denise
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AT HOME! Sorry about the thoughts about changing
things. The other staff will only think you are upstarts. Cheers,
MM
"Where are all of these non-interventionist births happening??
Some of us have seen some horrific, sometimes avoidable things happening to
women. We can't wait until we
LOL Sally - the obvious answer
:)
Johanna - they do still occur I
promise. If you are lucky enough to be "with woman" at the birth centreof
that hospital near uniyou will see some wonderful births.
I caught my own baby there 20
minutes after arriving and have seen and heard of marvelous
Jo," post dates" means a calendar calculation -time. "post
mature" is a specific syndrome where the baby loses weight and the liquor volume
diminishes significantly etc. etc. They are two different things and it is
the "post mature syndrome" that is the one for concern. MM
I always
I can verify that - my last baby did not lose any weight at all and actually
put on 190g by day 3. No intervention here - midwife didn't even touch me
during labour or the the baby till she was an hour old!
Hugs, Larissa
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From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear
Title: Message
If we
are not very careful...home will be the only place a natural birth is
experienced.the time has come for us all to act. The National Maternity
Action Plan is a spring board for change. Dont let the chance go
by
Let me
tell you a parable
There
was woman
at home and in birth centres and hospital in public
and private when women are informed strong and not interfered with harder to get
as u progress along ie home---hosp but possible when women are
truley informed and supported by known midwives jan
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Sally the vic borad of nursing has never publically
suggested in any shape or form that independant mws have a problem when and if
they do we can act Is this niave?
Where does your information come from
?
jan
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From:
Sally
Westbury
To: [EMAIL
Title: Message
but
lucky to be oh so civilized!
check
this out!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lynne
StaffSent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:30 AMTo:
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breech
Good on ya! Is that you Megan?
Irene Munro
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Hi
The anaesthetic dept. at the hospital where I work
has asked the pharmacy to look at removing pethidine from the formulary for both
general and maternity clients (mainly because of adverse side-effects). They
suggest that tramadol is a safer alternative and that a "number of published
I have known several woman who have had it removed because of the mood swings or depression that they have associated with it.
Andrea Quanchi
On Wednesday, September 11, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Claudia van Duyn wrote:
Has anyone come across clients with negative side effects from the use of the
I doubt very much if this drug has been tested and approved for pregnant
women.
My daughter was precribed it for post op pain and experienced the following
side effects (which are also described in manafacturer's leaflet;
feeling of fever
feeling weid and strage and restless
rash
nausea
Tina, very articulate. Only the last sentence to take issue with. Nursing
students (and medical students, too, by the way) who are on a maternity
placement face the same problems. It is not the student who is dangerous,
it is the woman who is giving birth, as she is the one to sue regardless
of
On a personal level, a friend has had the implant
and it began 'traveling' around her arm and it is quite scarred now as they kept
opening her up and looking for it!! - pretty horrible.
Steph. CBE
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From:
Claudia van Duyn
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ack!
I have only heard good stuff from friends/acquaintances who
have it.
I think anyone who can't use the progesterone only pill should
rule it out.
Jo
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What is civilised about being dissected. I see no reference in the article
that this woman had any exposure to any informed information or people. Just
a bunch of girlfriends who obviously had the vaginal births from hell, over
managed and intervened, one of which was an
Sorry, I meant the current definition of 'post
maturity' according to what I observein currentpractice seems to be
anything over40 weeks, induce
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From:
Mary
Murphy
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:32
AM
Subject:
Title: Message
I have also read the 'natural birth' article
offering the flip side to the C/S and at least there is some balance to this
site - however they manage to make this N/Birth woman look exceptionally brave,
extraordinary and financially secure enough to ba able to hire the private
Hi Denise,
I use a program called Eudora for my email and it has this handy feature
called Mood alert which screens incoming and outgoing messages and alerts
you, via a neat row of chillies just how hot the message is, giving you a
chance to either amend it (outgoing) before you insult
Title: Message
"gently lifted out"?
She obviously didn't see the actual birth of her baby... most
often the head has to be wrenched out of the pelvis, usually with forceps, then
squeezed out through the skin, pushed from the top. To be gently lifted
out, it would have to be a 40cm
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