[ozmidwifery] Media influence on birth expectations

2003-12-15 Thread Belinda Maier
I thought this may interest you all, I love that she talks of the awful things you do , it would scare anyone I should imagine, but to then tell you to video it all?? What no one tells you about childbirth >From Parents Expecting 2002 ( an information ((?)) mag for parents) Vomiting due to l

Re: [ozmidwifery] caesarean and stiilbirth

2003-12-15 Thread Elissa and David
You'll find the same topic covered at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3244410.stm if thats any use .Alternatively if you want the original Lancet article , I can email you a copy. Cheers, David - Original Message -

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Dierdre Bowman
Jo I must be rude and bad mannered because I often tell people in response to "you must be brave to have a homebirth" that they must be brave to go to hospital.   Woops, never looked at it as being rude, I always felt it was an appropriate way to start the conversation roling about birth. H

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Debbie Field
I have the same response when people say i am brave having a homebirth. And I love telling my story to people in the hope that it may open their hearts to other possibilities. I do believe though that whatever people believe to be true, is perfectly true and right for them - as homebirthing

[ozmidwifery] birth centres in Melbourne & suburbs

2003-12-15 Thread jayne
Is there a list of  birthcentres in Melbourne and suburbs?  Or could someone please let me know which ones they know are still open.   Thanks   Jayne    

[ozmidwifery] Removal from list

2003-12-15 Thread Selangor Maternity Centre
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[ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
What do you all know about brow presentations? I was with a lovely woman yesterday who wanted a natural birth and so i spent the morning with her and her partner on the floor, in the shower and she dilated to fully within 4 hrs, just lovely and I am sure (so sure) I palped a posterior fontanelle su

[ozmidwifery] caesarean and stillbirth link

2003-12-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Title: FW: Live caesarean on channel 9 tomorrow--outraged responses needed!     This may help your response, Jenny   'Delivery by caesarean section in the first pregnancy could increase the risk of unexplained stillbirth in the second' Although caesarean section is known to be associate

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Marilyn Thank you for sharing your reflections and cogitations. This is my beleif, experience that midwives do reflect on all that inputs into a labour and the possible interplay rather than jumpimg to blame, denouncement of specific action of another or the woman and baby like an edict of a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Thanks

2003-12-15 Thread Dierdre Bowman
Hi Maureen, I'm Dierdre Bowman and I'm with Maternity Coalition QLD. I was wondering if you could email me off list. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Dierdre. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Belinda Maier
I had a very similar experience recently with a friend.Her history was that her 5 sisters all had private obst, induction's epidurals 4 sections and one forceps. So this woman was really keen for a vaginal birth with no intervention but all of this head work to do. She saw a great anesthetist who d

Re: [ozmidwifery] High heads/ pain free ???

2003-12-15 Thread Lynne Staff
Hi Maria - lovely to see you 'on-line'. The book is Pregnancy - the Inside Story, by Joan Raphael-Leff, published by Karnac Books: London & New York (1993) Here is the acrostic with which she begins the book. Enjoy. Wheels within wheels, wombs within wombs, Oscillating figure/ground perspective tu

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Yes, Denise: I wonder if an hour in the tub would have helped?? There was no synto augmentation involved 4cm to fully in 4 hrs seemed like a lovely active birth was about to happen. Yes also: those Midwifery Today suggestions are great to try in a homebirth situation/independent practice but please

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Lynne Staff
I tend to agree with Marilyn. Rupturing the membranes may have contributed to the babe coming down deep into the woman's pelvis in a deflexed position, also making it more difficult for it to flex and rotate with no 'cushioning'. An hour in the tub with some oblique pelvic stretches and front to ba

Re: [ozmidwifery] Brow presentations

2003-12-15 Thread Lynne Staff
If you drew an upside down "3" on the mother's abdomen, with the small part of the 3 over her pelvis, you get the picture? Hard to describe if you are visual! - Original Message - From: "Belinda Maier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:22 PM Subj