RE: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour

2004-12-06 Thread Anglodutch NTL Account
Oops, BP should be hourly of course, not 4 hourly!  Claudia  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Anne ClarkeSent: 06 December 2004 23:35To: OZMIDWIFERYSubject: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour Dear All,   Ta

RE: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour

2004-12-06 Thread Anglodutch NTL Account
Hi Anne,   BP: 4 hourly Temp: 4 hourly FHR: intermittently every 15 minutes for at least one minute during and after contractions in first stage along with maternal pulse, to distinguish between the two. In second stage, FHR every 5 minutes for at least one minute after contractions. As

Re: [ozmidwifery] Postnatal observations

2004-12-06 Thread Ceri & Katrina
Hi Felicity Try this one.. Gilmour, C. & Twining, S. (2002). Postnatal care in hospitals: Ritual, routine, or individualised. Australian Journal of Midwifery 15, (2)11-15. Katrina :-) (I had this for an assignment for uni and found it quite good) On 07/12/2004, at 11:53 AM, cummins wrote:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread Alan Rooney
Leanne It will have to be snail-mail Alan Rooney C/- Narrabri Hospital Cammeron St Narrabri 2390 Thanks Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: 07 December 2004 08:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Incid

Re: [ozmidwifery] Postnatal observations

2004-12-06 Thread cummins
Dear Jen No, the Ob has not provided anything, only that this was the practice at the tertiary hospital from where she came from, so it MUST be right! And where I work, in the eyes of management, Obs are right until proven wrong and Midwives wrong until accepted after lots of fighting. Felicity

Re: [ozmidwifery] Postnatal observations

2004-12-06 Thread Jen Semple
Enkin et al. in A Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy & Childbirth state: "Routine [postnatal] Observations: Making & recording regular measurements of Temp, pulse, bp, fundal height, lochia & the various wounds that a woman may sustain during birth, is still common practice in the days follow

Re: [ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour

2004-12-06 Thread shaz42
at wch  post natal ward the obs are 4/24 for the first day then bd if all is ok then daily. in labour it is protocol to do fhr very 15 min, temp 4/24, bp 1/2 hly, pulse 15 min and contractions every1/2 hr and mark on the partogram. - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Update: ACMI and MC Birth Stories Project

2004-12-06 Thread Tim & Rochelle
Denise, I will try to find time to write Charlie's birth, nearly 4 years ago in Lismore base hospital NSW. Cheers Rochelle. - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:37 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Update: ACM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread Jen Semple
Thanks Leanne, David & Denise for finding evidence to post online. This evidence is probably useful to everyone on this list. Routine suctioning naso-pharyngeal (sp?) suctioning routinely occurs at both of the hospitals where I've done my training. Jen 3rd year BMid --- leanne wynne <[EMAIL PR

[ozmidwifery] Routine Observations in labour

2004-12-06 Thread Anne Clarke
Dear All,   Talking about observations. Please take time to reply to this query.   What observations - how often, what type of observations e.g. temp, pulse, BP, FHR, PV assessment etc. do you do routinely on a normally progressing singleton labour?   With thanks, Anne Clarke  

Re: [ozmidwifery] suctioning

2004-12-06 Thread Mary Murphy
Thanks for the collation of references.  great information.  thanks, MM

[ozmidwifery] Postnatal observations

2004-12-06 Thread cummins
Dear List   Sorry to go back over old ground (message sent by Mel Dunstan 17/11/04), but I really need your help in a Obs V Midwives battle against doing postnatal observations.  About 4 years ago we ceased doing postnatal observations on all 'normal birth' postnatal women.  Our postnatal un

Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread leanne wynne
Yes, That is the article I was referring to. There is also some good information on the Gentle Birth web-site: www.gentlebirth.org/archives/meconium.html Leanne. From: "Elissa and David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence o

Re: [ozmidwifery] suctioning

2004-12-06 Thread Denise Hynd
dear Denise I have no problem with your email self propmoting or not I thank you Denise Hynd   "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."   — Linda Hes

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Update: ACMI and MC Birth Stories Project

2004-12-06 Thread Denise Hynd
    Dear Midwife/MC Supporter,December is on us and the frantic festive season so in case I don't have time at a later stage to say it - "Have a great break and do some serious relaxing!"Now to work.I am writing to you because I have contacted you in the past about the Australian College of

[ozmidwifery] suctioning

2004-12-06 Thread Denise Fisher
This is an except from the Health e-Learning online course BE04: Breastfeeding Initiation and the First Week. [quote] Oral aversion as an outcome of routine oropharyngeal or gastric suctioning or intubation is often cited by clinicians as a cause of breastfeeding difficulty, but little research i

RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread leanne wynne
Alan, Do you want it faxed or sent via snail-mail? Leanne. From: "Alan Rooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:27:57 +1100 Hi Leanne If you have a copy on suctioning on the peri I would

Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread Elissa and David
You might like to check out - Oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal suctioning of meconium-stained neonates before delivery of their shoulders: multicentre, randomised controlled rial . ARTICLE The Lancet, Volume 364, Issue 9434, 14 August 2004, Pages 597-602 Nestor E Vain, Edgardo G Szyld, Luis M Prud

RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread Alan Rooney
Hi Leanne If you have a copy on suctioning on the peri I would love a copy of it. We have a couple of doctors here who insist on suctioning on the peri.even if there is no mec. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: 0

Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium

2004-12-06 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi Leanne, this can be a dilemma for us all, especially in homebirth. It is not common practice to suction on the peri & as so many of our clients birth in water, the mec seems to be washed out rather than sucked in at birth. The more info we have to back up this non-interventionist practice, the