Re: [ozmidwifery] On behalf of Rochelle . Perth

If you want to add it, Defence Health's cover is detailed below.   Kate   ~~~   Defence Health Midwifery benefits are only available for Members contributing to Private Hospital cover. The restrictions and benefits of the entitlement are as follows:   * Over all midwifery benefit maxi

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

I can't agree more with this thread. My first saw me labour to 10cm and then have an em LSCS. 5 hours later, in the middle of the night, I had 3 midwives in my room trying to warm Maggie. After a couple of hours they informed me that she was getting colder and they were going to bring "baby warm

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

Thanks Kate - Original Message - From: "Helen and Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC It was from The Australian website Kate. Helen - Original Message ----- From: "Ka

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

Helen, Which paper did you get this article from? Thanks Kate - Original Message - From: "Helen and Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC Here is another version of the Sydney Morning Herald article wh

Re: [ozmidwifery] burping/winding

I'm a big believer in follow the baby's lead. I tell mothers they'll know if baby needs burping. And if it doesn't, why bother? One of mine needed burping for 2 weeks quite early on. I found it tedious in the extreme and was thrilled when she got over it. But mothers are harassed by grandparent

Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth

Some students would definitely be interested - cost permitting.   Kate - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi Sharon,   Yes, we wi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Older Children's Sleep

Thank-you everyone. You have given me ideas and reassurance (which is lovely to hold onto right now). I will work my way through them all. Something has to work! I really wish co-sleeping worked for us, but it doesn't - I don't sleep well with my kids in the bed and often end up with muscle ac

[ozmidwifery] Older Children's Sleep

Can anyone point me in a direction for 3yo sleep issues? Mine has always been a bad sleeper but she has got worse in the last year (with the transition from a cot?). Between the 2 of them (6yo, but 90% Miss 3), I would consider it a good night if I am up 4 times for 20 mins each time. Bad night

Re: [ozmidwifery] postnatal depression - urgent

Title: Message Check out Helen Mayo House: http://www.wch.sa.gov.au/services/az/divisions/mentalhealth/helenmayo/   You can get referrals via CYH or Dr. Day patient service apparently quite good if you can't get in as an inpatient or if it's needing inpatient care.   Kate         - Origin

Re: [ozmidwifery] support people in OT

Title: Message I wonder if they would let a student in with a homebirther? Or would there be enough disapproval to have the student refused permission? While the primary caregiver might not be able to get in, they tend to be fairly receptive to students. At least a woman might have a familia

Re: [ozmidwifery] support people in OT

Title: Message I'm really big on 2 support people in theatre - one to be with mum and one with baby. As a student, have had women effusively appreciative of my presence, because I can convey their needs to staff, explain what's happening, and stay with them when dad rushes over to baby.   I

Re: [ozmidwifery] induced for the football???

It wasn't just the football - her OB was going on holiday the next week too!   Kate - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] induced for the football???

Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman

>>I heard there is a window about 5 - 6 months when you can remove the dummy, so I might wait another month and try then. I am not prepared for the 'few days of crying' I was told to expect. With my first, everytime I tried to remove the dummy, she started sucking her thumb. My dentist said dum

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery-led units - warning, a bit of a rave!

- >>how about the 'woman friendly birth centre'? There's a lot of different definitions of that one. Just had a placement with a m/w who promoted woman-friendly over baby-friendly. Her idea of w-f was to have longer hospital stays, baby in nursery, bottlefed until woman's milk comes in. Sh

Re: [ozmidwifery] cow colostrum

>>My sister was on about this stuff a few years ago - she paid something like $60 for a bottle of capsules, lasting a month.  I always knew she was mad... ;) H. Mad cow disease?   Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] BF video

Ditto please   Kate   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BF video Judy can you send it to me?Thank you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise H

Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth

Fantastic thread. I am about to start on a research assignment. I was planning on directed pushing (just because I've seen too much of it) but am now toying with noise in 2nd stage (because I've had too many women be told not to make any and would like to be able to challenge that authoritative

Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth

So how do you challenge a midwife or ob who insists on no noise? Kate (student midwife) - Original Message - From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth Tanya, There are no implications,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination

>> Does anyone know why we start at 3 days for Hep B then 8 weeks for the routine ones? Does it have to do with the ideal timing or the catchment time of the parents being in contact with the hospital & clinic etc? MM My gut says catchment. ANd maybe getting parents into the vaccination mindset?

Re: [ozmidwifery] US-Sad situation for maternity caregiver

No idea. My Ob (sorry!) 2nd time around had a straight forward and a complicated rate. What was charged didn't affect me - I paid the same, insurance/Medicare paid differing amounts. I achieved a VBAC, but she was there for several hours. I asked her out of idle curiosity which level was charge

Re: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story...

Thank you Tania - look forward to the info. Kate - Original Message - From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Channel 7 induction story... Have emailed Brian Peat to access the study he was quoting, will let you

Re: [ozmidwifery] PCOS info?

Tania I've got the first one - you are more than welcome to borrow it. Kate - Original Message - From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] PCOS info? Hi Tania, I recommend two books to her Women, Hormones and the Mens

Re: [ozmidwifery] info care packages for pregnant and birthing women - info from Joyous Birth

Hi Janet   How do you have this information available? Is it electronic or printed? If printed, is it stuff you can direct us to, or would it be easier to copy (in which case, it's obviously going to cost to have it copied and posted, which I would happily pay).   Many thanks   Kate   ---

Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage

me too please.   Kate - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage  This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of a

Re: [ozmidwifery] new baby for SA midwife of the year...

Congratulations to all of you. And how wonderful that after caring for so many women at home, Wendy got to have a homebirth herself!   Kate - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 1:58 PM Subj

Re: [ozmidwifery] MidResearch

I'm keen to see anything on this too. I did a search on it a few weeks ago, and discovered that in all people, the dominant arm tends to have a higher BP. So I guess you take it on the right arm because most women are right handed and you want the higher BP from a PE perspective? Also, sitting/

Re: [ozmidwifery] Abc radio author

RRP is $25. I picked it up yesterday at Big W for $18.??.   Kate - Original Message - From: Barb Glare & Chris Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Abc radio author Hi, It's by Aman

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal breech birth

>>What is even more sad, is that most of these girls (students) have never seen a physiological third stage let alone vaginal breech or twin birth.  Something so simple and natural is becoming a thing of the past.   I'm a 2nd year. One of our "young" students (17) attended her first birth la

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE:

Title: Message It was in the last 10 mins. I've got it on tape Jo. Give me a call.   Kate - Original Message - From: Dean & Jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: Arg!  God I wished

Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth reborn

My uni has a couple of different editions. Check out our catalogue: http://catalogue.library.unisa.edu.au/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First They have all the info you need. Good luck. Kate - Original Message - From: "Lindsay Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, Ap

[ozmidwifery] What is midwifery?

What a question! I am a 2nd year BMid student confronted with an essay which asks just that. We are being told to: "Be innovative. Consult personnel - midwives, women, multidisciplinary colleagues." Which leads me to this list! I'd really love opinions, thoughts and even directions to relevan

Re: [ozmidwifery] newbie after some help :)

Hi Holly Have you joined the BMid Student list? If so, post your query there too - someone may be able to help. If you aren't, email me and I'll send you the joining instructions. Kate - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: [o

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: implanon and breastfeeding

It's been suggested to me that perhaps my gyn HAS punctured a uterus and therefore makes for a worst case scenario?   Kate - Original Message - From: Larissa Inns To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:

Re: [ozmidwifery] implanon and breastfeeding

Yes it was in my arm. LIfe is 3 years. I gave it a year before I decided to have it removed due to side effects (very long, frequent, heavy menses. I was having a 10-12 day period, a 3 day gap, andother 10-12 day period a 5 day gap and then the cycle began again. Certainly very effective con

Re: [ozmidwifery] implanon and breastfeeding

>>BTW is implanon now approved in Australia for breastfeeding mothers??   I was told it was. It didn't affect my milk supply. I had it inserted at 8 weeks, and removed after a year (due to intolerable side-effects!)   Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] Preconception care?

The hospital where I had my first baby had a pre-conception information evening. Run by 2 midwives, it was a fairly strong recruiting exercise, but it went thoroughly through all sorts of pre-conception info - diet, folic, alcohol, caffiene, smoking, care provider options, antenatal screenin

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

>>" you need to tell that woman that her baby will die if it is not delivered on the bed".    She sounds like she'd fit in nicely with one of our students who actually commented that the sterile drapes available are wonderful because they "contain the mess". She was most unimpressed by my o

Re: [ozmidwifery] newborn bath

I'm with you Tania.   My first wasn't bathed for 3 days. It was done when we were ready. I found that really lovely. She was clean and didn't need bathing. My second - different - hospital - was bathed within 30 mins of birth (as have been several I've seen), which I found really sad. I could

Re: [ozmidwifery] Analgesia post LUSCS

sled so much by staff she ended up having some. I havealways wondered if the size of a woman makes a difference to her pain. My friend is particularly skinny.   - Original Message - From: Kate &/or Nick To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Analgesia post LUSCS

As someone said, with any pain it varies between people. I had a LSCS and needed no pain relief within 24 hours. Once I was out of bed, I refused all. Not because I had an issue with analgesia, but because I didn't need it. Pain relief was pushed so hard I finally gave up and took some to ge

Re: [ozmidwifery] attachments

`mE TOO jO   kATE - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] attachments I would love this too , Jo.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks marilyn ---

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support

Many thanks Jo. WIll pass it on to her.   Kate - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support Hi Kate, Perhaps she could try Bla

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support

Many thanks Jan & Jane for your offers. I will forward your emails to Sophie and let her take it from there. Given on campus committments, I expect she will arrive in Sydney sometime in late Feb/early March.   Thank you.   Kate

[ozmidwifery] Sydney BMid Student needing support

Hi   I'm a mature aged second year BMid student at UniSA. One of our younger students moved to Adelaide from Tasmania last year to do the course. She is a really lovely, mature, perceptive girl and has been very supportive of fellow students (including me) through various traumas.  Given all

Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent Help Needed

Whereabouts in Melbourne?   Kate - Original Message - From: Dierdre Bowman To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Urgent Help Needed Hi all, I read oz mid often but rarely contribute an

Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding advice (long)

>>I'm wondering if she might be ovulating, and if this could possibly have such a drastic effect on her breastmilk supply. Tania, is she overweight? Anecdotally (having spoken to quite a fwe overweight women), it seems that overweight women's menstruation returns to normal more quickly. Here spe

Re: [ozmidwifery] External Bmidders from UniSA

>>We only did a 2 week nursing home placement in 1st year (undergraduate BMid) and it was mainly for ADL's - but I don't believe they are doing this anymore. We did one week this year. Kate -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or u

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Stillbirth Memory ideas

Thank you for all the ideas. The parents are leading - they are starting to think about their babies now, and we have talked about various options. I guess I just wanted to make sure I hadn't overlooked any obvious ones while we still have the babies. The parents want mementoes, and have had

[ozmidwifery] Stillbirth memory ideas

Hi   I'm a first year BMid. A little over a month ago, one of my follow through women had stillborn twins. Because she is still quite ill (and in hospital), the funeral is yet to be held and we have just starting to talk about momentos. We've covered a lot, but I wanted any other ideas.   We

Re: [ozmidwifery] insurnace companies

I know with defence health that it covers you for a midwife. But it doesn't if you then need an OB. ie one or the other. Kate - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] insurnace companies Hi J

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals

de to Childbirth Preparation" (1998;Partera Press) by Pam England and Rob Horowitz could be useful for your friend. Best Wishes. Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACMProMid Professional Midwifery Education  Service0419 528 717 - Original Message - From: Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:cold epidurals

My closest friend is pregnant with her first. Because of various psych issues, including fairly spectacular panic attacks, she has always been adamant that the only way she can birth is c/s with GA. She's now 15 weeks along and I have got her prepared to attempt a cold epidural induction. I

Re: [ozmidwifery] CS story

Jo   Remarkably calm!   A wonderful response - well thought out, well expressed.   Maybe it might have an effect!   Kate - Original Message - From: Dean & Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CS story

Re: [ozmidwifery] Post rupture discussion

Or (maybe) another OB in Adelaide last week: I support VBAC, but when you've got a scar on your uterus, why risk your pelvic floor?   This mid student - who has VBACed (and researched well!) - was flabbergasted. My jaw was on the floor.   Kate! - Original Message - From: Tani

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction by Rupture of Membranes

>>I know! I know! I actually don't understand why she is choosing to go along with it, she is very educated and has lots of great information so I guess it is something she wants to do. Or perhaps she is pregnant and easily panicked with unnecessary fears about her baby's safety, and, as with man

Re: [ozmidwifery] Morning sickness

I had one pregnancy with vomiting to 40 weeks. I found that if I resisted vomiting, I felt nauseous all day. Once I puked, I felt fine. So, I puked as early in the day as possible (usually as soon as the toothbrush entered the mouth, so that was nice and early!)   Kate

Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac

I'm a student midwife, member of Cares SA, who has VBACed. Can't remember the years thing. BUT, I would encourage her to contact Cares. Jo is away, so Carolyn would be the go. They are really good at group stuff, one-on-one if that's what's needed. Their library is fantastic and empowered me

Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom

>>I agree with Jo in that no-one can force you. However it might be an option to look into booking into another hospital where your choices are supported. It can be difficult to labour & birth in a negative environment where people are likely to pressure you to change your mind throughout.  

Re: [ozmidwifery] one stort full of holes!!

Strange isn't the word. It almost sounds like an urban legend. Here's a more detailed version:   http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/12/1078594545854.html   By the way, I'm more or less new here. I'm starting a 3 year B Mid, am based in Adelaide,  have 2 daughters - 1 caesar, 1 VBAC, an