Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre

Dear all I might be able to shed a bit of light on Justine's comments. One of the obstacles we had in getting Ryde Midwifery Group Practice up and running was an assurance to the Area health service that there would always be someone  (obstetric) capable of doing an emergency CS if necessary a

Re: [ozmidwifery] NZ stats

Dear Brenda, dear Ozmids Great to have a discussion about the cross Tasman midwifery situation  - but I must confess i want to weigh into the debate to set just a couple of little facts straight. Whilst it is never a good thing to transplant a system of care from one cultural/political/social c

Re: [ozmidwifery] Article: Premmie Babies 'Bed Blocking'

Dear  list, there is no excuse for the use of insensitive and offensive language for example the use of the word 'bed blocking'. The production line language is in  common parlance unfortunately.. I recommend the recent paper by Denis Walsh published in the journal Social Science & Medicine

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: hospital based midwife

I think MM has hit the nail on the headwe must NEVER get into tearing each other apartthe real issue is as Mary says, the need to seriously reform the system. Women deserve to be able to select the option of midwifery  care from the word go...after all they can take themselves off t

[ozmidwifery] re Birth centres

thankyou to all who have responded to my  messageif you would prefer to contact off the list - am happy to do so i will be happy to compile a sort of directory at the end of our little study.. Sally T.

Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia

thankyou everyone who has responded to my  messageif you would prefer to contact off the list - am happy to do so i will be happy to compile a sort of directory at the end of our little study.. Sally T. sally tracy wrote: Dear all am trying to update a list of

[ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia

Dear all am trying to update a list of birth centres or places that the midwives and women  refer to as birth centres...Denise H. made a list of models of midwifery care a few years ago and many of those are birth centresI'm wondering if there are any more birth centres that we have

Re: [ozmidwifery] SMH Letter - support of Devine

not despairing too badly  - it seems this is a beat up - ie the person didn't exist and although the letter doesn't completely put Ryde in it  - by inference it does. The author is a lawyer at West Ryde.but there have been no women having a 3rd baby transferred that we can find! ST And

Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

Dear Oz mids and Andrea I agree wholeheartedly with you we have to have  a better term..and on the day in Newcastle I proposed we stop suggesting any one practitioner is more important than another in this stuff and call the units 'co-operative maternity units'!! Co-ops between women midwiv

Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats

Dear all Jan has summed it up in a nutshell  - both the discrepancies and the reasons why many home births go unreported..  we  did a 'run' with the national data a couple of months ago  - and we were surprised to find an even greater difference than this one you report Jan. The most diffic

Re: [ozmidwifery] perinatal stats

Dear all Jan has summed it up in a nutshell  - both the discrepancies and the reasons why many home births go unreported..  we  did a 'run' with the national data a couple of months ago  - and we were suprised to find an even geater difference than this one you report Jan. The most difficul

Re: [ozmidwifery] Mareeba Midwifery Service

Wonderful wonderful news.wonderful women wonderful midwivesgood work Mareeba Jan Robinson wrote: GOOD ON YOU MAREEBA MIDWIVES Happy babies grow from happy birth days Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tito Report...Professional Indemnity Review.

Dear Tina the report is available through Sydney University and this is the web address for it..but it doesnt seem to want to work for me just now...good luck. Review of Professional Indemnity Arrangements for Health Care Professionals.  Compensation and Professional Indemnity in Health

celebrating IMD - Australian Premiere - Singing the Bones

Dear List to celebrate IMD in Sydney - the Valhalla theatre has been booked (and 300 seats up for grabs)  for this FABULOUS moviebring along midwives, daughters, mothers,  friends, friends daughters..even a bloke or two .and come to Glebe (Valhalla theatre )  on The Australian

paper

now here's a paper to do our hearts some good http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7342/0/e Sally t -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

great research

Dear List there are two really fine midwifery papers in this weeks BMJ - all on line to anyone go to This issue's table of contents: http://bmj.com/content/vol324/issue7338/ Sally T -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to sub

Re: STOMP

costs associated with admission to special care nursery were excluded. The cost saving was also sustained even when the caesarean section rate in the new model of care increased to beyond that of the standard care group. (20  ref) ST AMAP Sally Tracy wrote: further info on the outcomes of the stu

Re: STOMP

further info on the outcomes of the study at: Homer C, Davis G, Brodie P, Sheehan A, Barclay L, Wills J, Chapman G. Collaboration in Maternity Care: a randomised controlled trial comparing community-based continuity of care with standard hospital care. Br J Obstet Gynaecol 2001;108:16-22. also f

Re: the campaign

I agree wholeheartedly Joy - Vanessa was awesome this morning...SO difiicult to get some of the issues out there, much less MOST of them as she managed to do.. and yes - it's time we had the stats and data to sock it to the authorities... I also think we should be calling for evidence that

Re: comment

As far as I can understand - the ACMI began with vision and wisdom .and maybe suffered a little adolescence as any growing thing does. I for one believe that so much is achieved through unity and partnership with each other and I really look forward to the next stage in our histor

[Fwd: midwifery models resource book]

-- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) Dear Sally Please could you forward this to the ozmidwifery list. thanks Dear Ozmidwives, I am currently off line and have asked Sally to send this message to you. Along with Caroline Homer and Nicky Leap I am writing a 'Handbook

[Fwd: FW: RE: Independent Midwives]

-- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) dear Sally I sent this yesterday - I am not on ozemidwifery but you may think that it should go there. If so, could you post it. Ta CXXX > -Original Message- > From: Caroline Homer > Sent: Monday, 30 July 2001 9:11 > To

Re: Letter in the Herald

they changed the title and left out the juciest sentence which read "Although midwives have been compelled to prove the safety of midwifery care, there are no known studies into the safety of specialist obstetric care for all births.."!! S. http://www.smh.com.au/news/0107/31/html/letters.html

Re: home support

Would be most interested to hear about the training for the six months - what sort of things do they cover? Sally t Thrupps wrote: Hi all    Just popping out of the closet to reply to ... sleep deprivation, going home early and support at home.    I believe that women who birth in hospitals sho

thankyou

Thankyou to all who offered info I requested - putting together submission which we hope to get on the Health Minister's agenda. sally t -- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to s

life matters at 9.00am EST Thursday

The issue of midwifery in new Zealand and other places, as well as our own crisis to be aired at 9.00 am EST radio national. The nurses workforce crisis too I think Sally t. -- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

gathering facts around Prof. Indemnity Issue

Apart from the negotiations the College (ACMI) is involved in . Does anybody have any info on payouts - large or small  - for midwife associated cases within the past ten or fifteen years? Has anybody received any encouragement at all  - to talk even  - with their respective state hea

web paper

Here is the address of a critique of the NEJM 2001;345:3-8 paper about uterine rupture following vbac. http://maccorkl.home.sprynet.com/VBAClash.htm -- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

Re: Marginalisation of Midwifery

I with to add my support also for the women and midwives out there putting so much energy and vigour into the 'cause' - thankyou Sally T. Clinical Learning Coordinator wrote: > Dear Tina and list > > When I read your letter to the 7.30 Report, I felt a sense of unitedness and > of heartfelt than

(no subject)

Dear All 'Lateline' programme tonight (Thursday 16 Sept) on ABC TV, 10.30 pm - Intervention into Childbirth Sally Witten-Tracy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

germaine greer

dear homebirth conference people i was so disappointed not to have been able to go to the conference and also miss the talk by germaine greer. Will there be a transcript or tape of her talk made available? -- Sally Witten-Tracy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

Re: revolutionary stuff

dear all the notion of a 'sheila's forum' should be seen in the light of a bunch of rowdy old women getting into red gumboots and having a whisky or two to smooth the path ..and having a damn good time! The new exec and the state teams look just great..I think we are in for a very exc

senate inq

The Senate inq. went exceedingly well in Sydney, from the midwives point of view. The notion of horizontal violence would have been on the senators' minds because the final submission they heard for the day was from an obstetrician. a scathing attack on midwives who were deemed to be old and p

evidence based funding!

dear list The debate and ideas about funding are very stimulating and thought provoking. Australia sits in a rather shameful position on the world stage with regard to health funding according to the WHO - we dont even get a mention among countries described as having systems that most equitably

Re: Senate Inquiry VERY IMPORTANT

carol thanks for this - very helpful sally t Carol Thorogood wrote: > Dear all > > Have just returned from the Senate Select Committee hearing. I represented > the WA ACMI. There's no doubt the committee has read the submissions and are > thinking about issues. Most of my questions came from Su

Re: Senate Inquiry

dear Joy many thanks for this briefing. I am going to represent AMAP on the 14th Sept in Sydney. I need some feedback on two points. Does anybody have the latest reference for the spending on ultrasound technology as part of the maternity budget? I have several references but I want to be absol

Re: midwifery campaign

Good luck with this campaign.it sounds like a wonderful and energetic groundswell. sally. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: mothers and midwives together

...about how much work is to be done! Sally Tracy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

NSW Midwives, and Victorian Midwives

Firstly a congratulations to the NSW midwives for inviting us to the zoo and a wonderful time had by all..thankyou to Carol T. for a great dinner speech.and the highlight of the meeting for me was the introduction of a motion which could be the first step to having consumers in the Col

Re: Senate Enquiry response from NSWMA

good one anne...see you there sallly t Ann Grieve wrote: > Dear All > The NSWMA will be holding a workshop day on Saturday 31 July to put together > its submission to the Senate Enquiry and would welcome any assistance that > you can give. The place is the NSWMA offices at 89 - 97 Jones St Ulti

Re: senate- but who was/ is listening?

Cathy and Nigel this is a very valid response, and maybe it is all part of the inquiry findings that there needs to be more consultation with consumers...other interested people who may be disadvantaged through not having been informed of the event. This is a most important forceful comment to mak

Re: direct entry

Kathleen I wholeheartedly agree with you..the partnership model is a great model to base the syllabus on..am forwarding your reply to the list..for some reason it came straihgt to me Kathleen Fahy wrote: > As a midwifery academic I want to briefly add to this discussion to say that > ou

letter

dear Hannah well donefantasticstuff s -- Sally Witten Tracy Research Midwife AMAP -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

direct entry

dear list In response to the discussion re the nature of direct entry education. No, it does not need to be obstetrically based ...in fact the ideal is for obstetrics to remain the domain of study for obstetricians and other tertiary level practitioners. The direct entry degree course for midwive

NSW Nurses Act Review Issues paper

message from Pat brodie to ozmidwifery The issues paper is on track and will be available before the next scheduled meeting on Monday 26th July When it is released it will be available for viewing on the Department's Web page at www.health.nsw.gov.au (under Health Publications, then Discussion P

NSW Nurses act review issues paper

message from Pat brodie to ozmidwifery The issues paper is on track and will be available before the next scheduled meeting  on Monday 26th July When it is released it will be available for viewing on the Department's Web page at www.health.nsw.gov.au (under Health Publications, then Discussion P

Re: senate inquiry

Cathy and Nigel i agree it would be very good for ozmidwifery to submit a response to the inquiry, and I am happy to co-ordinate responses on behalf of ozmid. Everybody's  contribution would have to reach me by the 3rd August and I will put them together. Doesn't matter how small the offfering is.

senate inquiry

dear list it is a good time to think about how effective every person can be when united in a single purpose. The document Changing Childbirth in the UK was only effective because a whole lot of energy, consumer ( National Chidbirth Trust UK), midwives and others  really pulled their 'fingers out'