Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread Susan Cudlipp
Lieve Just want to say that I love both your wisdom and your wonderfully original English! Heart whisper sounds so much nicer than 'murmer' :-) Love Sue - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [o

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread Honey Acharya
: "Heartlogic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth Lieve said: "Cordclamping is an intervention and has first to prove that it is better than not clamping instead of the other way of thinking&

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread Michelle Windsor
As an aside, I am of the impression that the cord vessels don’t have any valves. This is a really interesting point Mary. An article I read some time ago believed that the respiratory distress sometimes seen with caesar babies was related to hypovolemia, from when the baby was held above the mo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread lieve . huybrechts
ith a heartwisper the first week as often happens in practices with early clamping. Lieve .- Oorspronkelijk bericht - .Van: Mary Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .Verzonden: vrijdag, november 17, 2006 09:54 AM .Aan: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au .Onderwerp: RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clampin

Re: RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread abby_toby
She doesn't mean cutting the cord right away does she? Like when bubs is still underwater?? By her flawed idea of anatomy and physiology she may think that is appropriate?? I find it so hard to see how this kind of 'professional' can be a care provider for birthing mums. Abby xo _

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread Mary Murphy
Lieve writes: Yesterday I attended a waterbirth and the cord continued pulsing another 15 min after the birth of the placenta, 20 min after the birth of the baby. This can occur as a rebound pulse from the baby's heart beat. Obviously it can't be from a placenta pumping more blood to the bab

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-17 Thread Mary Murphy
Thank you Angela for your thorough reply. I always forget the very detailed anatomy of the circulatory changes and have to look it up and don't keep the right book at home. . I was thinking more of a convincing explanation as to why the blood doesn't run backwards from the baby towards the placent

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-16 Thread lieve . huybrechts
Hoi Honey, I attend a lot of waterbirths and never clamp a cord until it stops pulsating or mostly not before the placenta is born. Yesterday I attended a waterbirth and the cord continued pulsing another 15 min after the birth of the placenta, 20 min after the birth of the baby. In thinking ab

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-16 Thread Angela Rayner
Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, 17 November 2006 10:13 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth I have never heard of this theory. What about all the babies who are born on the bed and the mother holds the baby on her chest before the cord is clampe

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-16 Thread Christine Holliday
Perhaps you could just tell him it is no different to a land birth where the mother holds the baby! Hopefully he has see this. Christine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Honey Acharya Sent: 17 November 2006 08:15 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.c

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-16 Thread Megan & Larry
Hate to be synical, but how do we get blood to our head, no gravity happening there. :-) Megan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, 17 November 2006 9:43 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord clamping and waterbirth

2006-11-16 Thread Mary Murphy
I have never heard of this theory. What about all the babies who are born on the bed and the mother holds the baby on her chest before the cord is clamped. I think a lesson in anatomy and physiology is called for. Anyone out there who can explain it in detail? MM _ The paediatric

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord Clamping

2004-06-23 Thread Lois Wattis
Hello Tania, Here are some leads for you www.birthjourney.com and select the "Third Stage" button for "Signposts for the third stage maze" New text book - Midwifery Best Practice 2, Edited by Sara Wickham - page 112 The Third Stage Maze- Which Practice pathway for optimum outcomes? L. Wattis.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Cord Clamping

2004-06-23 Thread A & C Palmer
I was given this link a while ago and found it interesting reading. >http://www.cordclamping.com/braindamage.htm HTH, Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania & Laurie Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2003-03-17 Thread Michael Hall
Dear List folk, This is what I came online for! This and being able to write in for advice or direction to resources. This is great stuff - thanks Robin and thanks to all you strong midwives out there. It has been inspirational listening to all the encouragment going out to each other. Thanks

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2003-03-08 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Robin Thank you for this suggestion and for reminding me of the Mercola site and newsletter Denise - Original Message - From: Robin Moon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Cord Clamping -   Here's