Re: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread diane
1, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries I too have noticed a decline in the use of forceps. Time was that Kiellands were fairly common, and in experienced hands, quite effective for a POP. EXPERIENCED hands being the operative (no pun intended) word. One Ob recently said

Re: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Justine Caines
Dear Liz So nice to hear your honesty. But what are you learning? None of this is about what women can do or supporting them to achieve the best outcome, it is about protecting a system and it's regular inhabitants. It is production-line birth. Why not ask an independent midwife if you could ge

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Elizabeth and Mark Bryant
rphy Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 7:31 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries I recently was present where a ventouse was used to turn a baby from POP, asynclitic position. It was very difficult, with extreme force and a very "generous" epis

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Dean & Jo
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Susan Cudlipp
e only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: "Mary Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries I recently was presen

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Mary Murphy
I recently was present where a ventouse was used to turn a baby from POP, asynclitic position. It was very difficult, with extreme force and a very "generous" episiotomy. The baby was extremely shocked and had a head like a bowl of port wine jelly. It stayed 6 days under the Bili lights with high

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Ken Ward
birthing a POP. Maureen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nicole Carver Sent: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 6:28 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries Hi Marg, A lot of women who would birth at my

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Nicole Carver
Hi Marg, A lot of women who would birth at my workplace (regional Victoria) in the past with Keillands are now birthed by caesarean. Usually vacuum will not do/be used to do what Keillands will do (in the majority of cases, although I was taught it was possible) ie rotate the head from OP or transv