RE: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs.

-Original Message- From: Ben Combee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 3:51 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs. > -Original Message- > From: Ben Combee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 7 D

Re: changing hidden bit

Hidden bit is nothing but a one of the bit of a Database Attributes and u can set it using DmSetDatabaseInfo. The constant for hidden attribute is dmHdrAttrHidden. The application databases with this bit set do not appear in the App Launcher View. Regards Sachin Kochhar "SCMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Value of variable doesn't change when form changes

--- SU DUY TRINH wrote: > I face with a case:How can I save the > value of a variable in fisrt form and > then use the value in second form that > the value of the variable doesn't > change?ONLY on Code Warrior for Palm > hand-held. If you declare a global variable, then you can set its val

Re: Hide/show app programatically

Set the hidden attribute(dmHdrAttrHidden) of the resource database of the app u want to hide using DmSetDatabaseInfo Regards Sachin "Sistema Móvil de Captura de Información" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70387@palm-dev-forum... > > Hi, > How can I hide/show an App programatically? >

Re: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs.

> -Original Message- > From: Ben Combee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 3:08 PM > To: Palm Developer Forum > Subject: Re: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs. > > > Modifying the color tables is done through the > > UIColorGetTableEntryIndex, UICo

RE: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs.

-Original Message- From: Ben Combee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 3:08 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs. > Modifying the color tables is done through the > UIColorGetTableEntryIndex, UIColorGetTableEn

Re: Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs.

"Michael Glickman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70460@palm-dev-forum... > > This is the third question posted this morning. > > I was unlucky with previous two, hopefully > I am going to get an asnwer this time. > > A launcher colour scheme is different for > dbg and non-dbg ROMs. As

Value of variable doesn't change when form changes

Hi All, I face with a case:How can I save the value of a variable in fisrt form and then use the value in second form that the value of the variable doesn't change?ONLY on Code Warrior for Palm hand-held.For examples:In first form,I save the position(zero-based) of selected item in list and the

Re: Sources of m100's Clock app?

> - POSE tells me that SysNotifyBroadcastDeferred() is >reserved for system use only? According to the doc, the >function is available whenever the notification mgr is >present, so why does POSE (3.3) complain? This should be fixed in the next POSE release, along with a bunch of licen

Re: Form must be full width?

"James Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70446@palm-dev-forum... > > Drat. I've tried both of those: making it a modal dialog at 2,2 with width > and height both 156, and I get the error. Then I tried changing it to a > non-modal at 0,0 with width and height both 160, and I still

Back to launcher colour scheme in dbg and prod ROMs.

This is the third question posted this morning. I was unlucky with previous two, hopefully I am going to get an asnwer this time. A launcher colour scheme is different for dbg and non-dbg ROMs. As it was mentioned, it might be a hint that we can't rely on standard launcher colour scheme. Is ther

RE: Rectangle Button Frame

Just a warning: Palm doesn't recommend direct object modification because of possible forward incompatibility. You might get a warning message from either pose, or debug rom, but in real life this should be OK so far. M. -Original Message- From: Michael Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Rectangle Button Frame

Hi Sajul, Thanks, it works beautifully! "sajulpn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70333@palm-dev-forum... > > Hi Michael , > There is a method to change the button frame without > getting warning. But if what Ben says is true then you better stick to > Push button. A

RE: changing hidden bit

Sorry, what is App's hidden bit ? Is it a CW term ? Can you or anyone else tell me what it is for : not showing app icon ? skipping app in Info, Beam, etc ? other (please specify...) M. -Original Message- From: SCMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,

RE: Form must be full width?

The routine in question is going through a linked list of windows and redrawing the exposed portion of each. The routine starts by doing an error check (only on debug ROMs). This check is what's being hit. It goes through all the windows in the chain, and checks each one for validity. The first on

Re: Sprites (non-corrupting images)?

Searching Google for "Palm Sprites" turns up: From there, we can go to the author's home page: and click on "Enter the Realm of the Razor! Framework". Clicking on "The Razor! Framework" and then "FAQ" bring

RE: I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch there is no cmdPBP defined

--- Danny Epstein wrote: > > I've never used SysAppLaunch() for a normal > launch... > > That's good, because it won't work. :) > Thanks for clarifying, Danny. I didn't really think it would work, either. I shouldn't have posted anything once I saw that he was trying to do a normal launch wit

RE: Form must be full width?

> I don't suppose someone with the OS sources could look up Form.c, Line:841 > and tell me what conditions it's actually checking there? Generally, it helps if you specify the OS version for this kind of thing. In 4.0, the error checks are on lines 839 and 840. This is inside a routine that's red

RE: Sprites (non-corrupting images)?

Hi Robert, If you come to PalmSource, be sure to come along to the talk that David Oakley and I will give, which may help to cover some of what you're trying to do :) Its a bg topic, and I'm still learning! Regards, Howard. -- Howard Tomlinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Games Designer, As

Re: Form must be full width?

Drat. I've tried both of those: making it a modal dialog at 2,2 with width and height both 156, and I get the error. Then I tried changing it to a non-modal at 0,0 with width and height both 160, and I still get the error. I don't suppose someone with the OS sources could look up Form.c, Line:841

RE: Sprites (non-corrupting images)?

Have you tried bitmap window, offscreen window, etc ? It also depends on whether 8bpp or 16bpp graphics is used. Michael -Original Message- From: Robert Purcell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 11:30 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Sprites (non-corrupting im

Sprites (non-corrupting images)?

Hi Everyone, I'm trying to find a way to create "sprite" graphics on the Palm. Essentially, I want to create a graphic object that I can move around the screen (and over other bitmaps, etc), that won't require me to redraw the underlying bitmaps, etc. In other words, I don't want this "spri

RE: I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch there is no cmdPBP defined

> I've never used SysAppLaunch() for a normal launch... That's good, because it won't work. :) Applications assume they have access to globals on normal (and goto) launch, but SysAppLaunch calls the app as a subroutine, so it won't have access to its globals. (A5 will be pointing to _your_ globa

RE: Changing Info Dialog Title

Honestly, I also prefer a Help form instead of tip. If you don't use help, where can you place "About" ? :-) Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: Danny Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 11:13 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: Changing Info Dialo

RE: Form must be full width?

Actually, for dialogs, the top should be 158 - height of dialog, since the dialog has a 2 pixel wide border all around, and since the height specified is the inside dimension. A full screen dialog would should have a top of 2 and a height of 156. Likewise, all dialogs should be full width, so thei

RE: M505 Debug Mode

Note that the shortcuts are installed by the system when the device is first reset. They can be removed subsequently, causing them to no longer function. But the down-arrow reset should always work. -- Danny @ Palm -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please

RE: Changing Info Dialog Title

> ...I don't see a logical explanation for "tip only on modal"... I'm not sure what the reasoning is for only having tips on dialogs. Dialogs don't generally have menu bars, which is a common way to provide access to help in non-modal forms, but technically they can. I suppose getting access to h

Re: Form must be full width?

"James Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70365@palm-dev-forum... > > Ok, I'm still confused. First, I did try making my form full width and > height with the top-left set to 0,0. I still got the error, so what did I > miss? The top-left of 0,0 is TOP justified. The OS wants thi

Creating a multi-section project without multigen, and assembler stubs

Hello again This might be another way around: create a project without multigen. In this case you don't need to specify section in the source code at all ! You just build an ld-script, and use 'man-made' stubs, when needed. I did it for my first program and it was not so bad, but I have a feelin

Using multigen for placing a whole source file into a segment

Hello to all PRC developers. If you use C++, you just specify a section for a class, so that all properties and methods get it automatically. I 'plan C' the situation is far more complex: you have a considerable number of variables and functions and specifying section for each is a very routine

We get Memory Manager New.c, nil pointer error message.

Wene we use a NULL it gives us an error as stated above. >--- Charles Busch wrote: >> I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch >> there is no cmdPBP defined or shown anywhere. >> what do I need to supply to get a normal launch > >I've never used SysAppLaunch() for a normal launch, >but

changing hidden bit

Hi, Could you tell me how to change an App's hidden bit programatically? Thank you, Farzin -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

RE: How to FntGetBoldFont(fontId) ?

An interesting question indeed ! I don't think it could be as generic as you want, given that any font developer is free to use any convention for their fonts. You migh wish to walk arround all fonts and check CharWidth and CharHeight to find the most relevant. In this case, how do we know the

RE: Changing Info Dialog Title

Hello Danny. Sorry for being pricky, but I don't see a logical explanation for "tip only on modal", apart from just masking a transparent colour problem mentioned above. Why having a tip for the main form (for example) is criminal ? Michael -Original Message- From: Danny Epstein [mail

RE: M505 Debug Mode

I've had no trouble using the various debug modes on the m505 for debugging via a serial cable/cradle. -- Peter Epstein -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: M505 Debug Mode

Hi All, Just to dispell any confusion - I am attempting to enter debug mode and/or console mode using a serial cable (not USB). Regards Jonathan Cox -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: M505 Debug Mode

Hi All, Just to dispell any confusion - I am attempting to enter debug mode and/or console mode using a serial cable (not USB). Regards Jonathan Cox "Jonathan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70422@palm-dev-forum... > > Hi All, > > Does anyone know how to put a Palm M505 into Debu

Re: I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch there is no cmdPBP defined

--- Charles Busch wrote: > I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch > there is no cmdPBP defined or shown anywhere. > what do I need to supply to get a normal launch I've never used SysAppLaunch() for a normal launch, but if you don't need to pass in anything for cmdPBP, then use NULL

M505 Debug Mode

Hi All, Does anyone know how to put a Palm M505 into Debug Mode or Console Mode ? On other devices the Shortcut .. 1 and Shortcut .. 2 do the respective jobs. However I cannot get these to work on a Palm M505 device. Also resetting whilst holding down the Scroll-Down button does not work for m

RE: Changing Info Dialog Title

> It tried to use HelpString with a non-modal form. There is no complain from > the device. The 'i' icon is not drawn. However, if I click on the right-top > corner where it is supposed to be, it will show up and the help is displayed. I think Constructor enforces the "tip only on modal" rule.

I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch there is no cmdPBP defined

I've already looked there and for a Normal Launch there is no cmdPBP defined or shown anywhere. what do I need to supply to get a normal launch and be able to return to my program. > What I need to know is, using SysAppLaunch > what are the parameters in the cmdPBP that > I have to supply to get

Re: What are the parameters in the cmdPBP that I have to supply to get it to launch.

--- Charles Busch wrote: > > What I need to know is, using SysAppLaunch > what are the parameters in the cmdPBP that > I have to supply to get it to launch. > What we want is to launch it as a subroutine. > That depends on the launch code (UInt16 cmd) you supply to SysAppLaunch(). Read the

RE: Getting the current key state at normal launch

Address Book switches categories when it's hard button is pressed, but not when the app is launched via that same hard button. The code for this is in AddrList.c in the function ListHandleEvent(). When it gets a keyDownEvent, it first checks if it's a hard key. If it is, it then checks whether the

Re: Set the time

TimSetSeconds - Original Message - From: "SCMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Set the time > Hi, > How can I set the Palm time programatically? > Thank you, > Farzin > > > -- > For information on usi

RE: list in table cells question

Bob's handy guide to rolling your own popup triggers in tables: I Initialization. You must initialize the table properly. Best is to set the item style as a customTableItem, set the item int to hold the selection (or -1 for no selection), set the item pointer to point to your list, and set a

Set the time

Hi, How can I set the Palm time programatically? Thank you, Farzin -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

Color Samples

Can anyone send me a sample on how to make my labels some other color. Also how can I change the backgroung color in table and list rows?? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- For information on

What are the parameters in the cmdPBP that I have to supply to get it to launch.

we have been unable to return directly to our application, after launching to another, without doing the following: 1. Exiting the program we launched into. 2. Finding our application Icon, on the applications screen, and reentering via the standard proceedure. What I need to know is, using Sy

Returning to the original application after launching to another Palm app.

That's correct. What I need to know is using SysAppLaunch what are the parameters in the cmdPBP that I have to supply to get it to launch. What we want is to launch it as a subroutine. >>We have had great success launching to other >> Palm OS programs from within our application. >> However, we

list in table cells question

Hi everyone, I'm hoping that someone has already found a way around the ugly down arrows and semicolons associated with trigger labels when used in a table cell? I know how to get around these items for a regular trigger because I can create a reference to a individual trigger item. I'm

How to FntGetBoldFont(fontId) ?

given a fontID, is there a way to find the equivalent bold font ID? I'm displaying text in a user-selected font, and want to display some parts in bold. It isn't too difficult on palms with only the std, bold, large, and largeBold fonts, but on the Handera there are already 8 fonts, and there

RE: Sources of m100's Clock app?

At 21:17 06/12/2001, Peter Epstein wrote: >Sounds to me like it's best to avoid more serious problems and live with >the bug on those devices. It's really a Clock bug, and even if you did fix >it in your app, it would still affect Datebook. I'd include a note in your >documentation about it.

Re: Getting the current key state at normal launch

At 10:53 AM -0800 2001/12/06, Trevor Menagh wrote: >I am working on an app where I want to detect which key is pressed to launch the app >(if any) so I can launch to a predefined view if that button was pressed. >This is what I currently have, and it SOMETIMES works and sometimes does not. very

Hide/show app programatically

Hi, How can I hide/show an App programatically? Thank you, Farzin -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/

RE: Sources of m100's Clock app?

Sounds to me like it's best to avoid more serious problems and live with the bug on those devices. It's really a Clock bug, and even if you did fix it in your app, it would still affect Datebook. I'd include a note in your documentation about it. -- Peter Epstein -- For information on using the

RE: Sources of m100's Clock app?

At 22:05 05/12/2001, Peter Epstein wrote: >If you delayed the actual presentation of the dialog via the >notification manager, the alarm manager would have finished it's loop (in >which it sends display launch codes to every app that has an alarm), and >should therefore allow the clock dialog t

RE: Form must be full width?

All forms and dialogs need to be full width and bottom justified when you include the space required for the border. A full screen dialog should be: left = 2 top = 2 width = 156 height = 156 A dialog that's about half screen height will be something like this:

Re: Form must be full width?

Try it: Top = 0 Left = 2 Width and Height = 156 Júlio Fábio de O. Chagas Gerente de Projetos email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +55(11)3055-3159 Grupo Quadrata http://www.quadrata.com.br - Original Message - From: "James Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: "Palm Develope

RE: PalmOS INI File?

On the Palm side. Look at "Application Startup and Stop -> Notifications" and "Application Startup and Stop -> Responding to Launch Codes -> Responding to Other Launch Codes" in the 4.0 SDK's "Palm OS Companion.pdf" file. That, along with the SDK reference, should give you all the info you need

RE: PalmOS INI File?

Is this on the PC side or the Palm side (the notification manager etc)? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avilla, Dane Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:45 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: PalmOS INI File? Yes, you can save start

Re: PalmOS INI File?

--- Tim wrote: > > Is there a way to save settings to some > type of "ini" like file in the PalmOS? > What I am trying to do is this, when they > hotsync, I refresh the database information > on the palm, then when they start the app > (for the first time only) I want it to make > sure the

Getting the current key state at normal launch

I am working on an app where I want to detect which key is pressed to launch the app (if any) so I can launch to a predefined view if that button was pressed. This is what I currently have, and it SOMETIMES works and sometimes does not. very weird: if (cmd == sysAppLaunchCmdNormalLaunch) {

Re: PalmOS INI File?

PrefGetAppPreferences PrefSetAppPreferences - Original Message - From: "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: PalmOS INI File? > > Is there a way to save settings to some type of "ini" like file in the

RE: PalmOS INI File?

Yes, you can save startup info into the system preferences or your application's preferences. However, for what you are trying to do, I would suggest you take a look at the HotSync completed notification (using the Notification Manager on newer devices) or at the HotSync completed launch code (on

Re: Form must be full width?

Ok, I'm still confused. First, I did try making my form full width and height with the top-left set to 0,0. I still got the error, so what did I miss? (Again, the form in question is a dialog that's popped up over the main (non-dialog) form; an alert is then popped up over the dialog.) Second, th

PalmOS INI File?

Is there a way to save settings to some type of "ini" like file in the PalmOS? What I am trying to do is this, when they hotsync, I refresh the database information on the palm, then when they start the app (for the first time only) I want it to make sure the DB is sorted. Any help would be app

Re: Pulse on serial port when power up

In software, no. You could add some buffering hardware to intercept the glitch or maybe a well-selected capacitor. - Original Message - From: "jacky Cheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Pulse on ser

Re: use of new and delete

Jake Donham wrote: > > I don't think you can call a C++ constructor like that--think you need to > overload the placement new operator to explicitly construct memory. No need to overload it, just call it: if (MemHandle h = MemHandleNew(sizeof(MyClass))) { MyClass *c = new (MemHandleLock(h)) M

Re: Regarding sound api

I'd start with the rockmusic example included in the SDK or go to PalmGear.com and buy one of the piano programs already available. - Original Message - From: "Ravindra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:56 PM Subject:

Re: Returning to the original application after launching to another Palm app.

--- Charles Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have had great success launching to other > Palm OS programs from within our application. > However, we have been unable to return directly > to our application ... You must be using SysUIAppSwitch(), which closes your app, then switches to an

Re: PilRC Plugin Problem

> Very odd. I've not verified this yet -- how large is the PCX file > you're reading in here? It's about 9K. > You can duplicate this functionality without the PilRC plugin using your > own .r file. Just make one with the line > > read 'data' (1) "0493.pcx"; That worked nicely. Thanks, B

Returning to the original application after launching to another Palm app.

We have had great success launching to other Palm OS programs from within our application. However, we have been unable to return directly to our application without doing the following: 1. Exiting the program we launched into. 2. Finding our application Icon, on the applications screen, and r

Re: Rectangular button frame

To do it anyway or just to emulate it, use graphical button with no border but draw the icon with a border. To make it compitable with older device, you can use just bitmaps with rect border and capture pendown/penup event to make it like a button. Max --- Ben Combee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Changing Info Dialog Title

Thanks for all the info. It appears there isn't an easy solution for this problem. I'm going to try to create a custom dialog for the help. I'll let you know how things go. Regards, Mike "Michael Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70242@palm-dev-forum... > > I have a model dialo

Re: Scroll window with form object

Use FrmSetObjectPosition. Details in reference for Codewarrior. Cheers Sajul Vo Le Phu Quy wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm facing the problem: In my form contents some >objects (button, list ...) How can I use scroll bar to >scroll this form? >I have success scroll window, but only with text and >bitmap

Rectangle Button Frame

Hi Michael , There is a method to change the button frame without getting warning. But if what Ben says is true then you better stick to Push button. Anyway here is how you do it. * First allocate a temp control pointer. * memcpy the control pointer for the button t

RE: Wild card search with database names!!

that only i meant in my qn itself. anyhow thanks for ur efforts. Guru >From: Joe Programmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Wild card search with database names!! >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:50

Re: Rectangular button frame

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, geeta more wrote: > Hi Ben, > As per what you say it will not be possible to > change button frames at all. Surely one can access the > structure at run time to change the frame. because > right now I am doing such a thing and am able to get > the appropriate frames without any

Re: Rectangular button frame

Hi Ben, As per what you say it will not be possible to change button frames at all. Surely one can access the structure at run time to change the frame. because right now I am doing such a thing and am able to get the appropriate frames without any warning. So my question is in futu

Scroll window with form object

Hi all, I'm facing the problem: In my form contents some objects (button, list ...) How can I use scroll bar to scroll this form? I have success scroll window, but only with text and bitmap (drawing objects). Please help me get out. Thanks in advance. quivo _

Re: PilRC Plugin Problem

"Eric W. Sirko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70280@palm-dev-forum... > > I'm having trouble using the DATA object definition. My .rcp file looks > like this: > > DATA "data" ID 1 "0493.pcx" > > During the build process, the PilRC plugin seems to go into an infinite > loop -- the buil

Re: Rectangular button frame

"Michael Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70317@palm-dev-forum... > > hi guys. > > Just a simple questions, I am trying to change the frame of a button. Even > though the Palm documentation shows that there are different kind of button > frames like rectangleButtonFrame, boldButtonFr

Re: Help needed: Setting the font on a FrmCustomAlert

"Michael Glickman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70269@palm-dev-forum... > > FmtSetFont doesn't work probably because FrmCustomAlert function > reckons that the message is extremely important and uses its own > FntSetFont to overwrite your settings. I viewed the source of FrmCustomAl

Re: Changing Info Dialog Title

"Michael Glickman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:70301@palm-dev-forum... > > To be serious there is a problem with own icon. > > As you noticed, a dbg ROM version uses a different > colour scheme, and the implication (as I understand it) > is that your app should not rely on standard

Rectangular button frame

hi guys. Just a simple questions, I am trying to change the frame of a button. Even though the Palm documentation shows that there are different kind of button frames like rectangleButtonFrame, boldButtonFrame, etc... how does one uses it? Whenever, I try to change the attr of the control, the d