Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Available ?

2004-02-20 Thread Linke, Andreas
> As Craig Likes pointed out, we're first catering to the developer > that doesn't have any of this stuff installed, and trying to make it > easy for them. Later, we'll support the Eclipse mechanism for > providing updates. Hm, so you're taking the hard road instead of starting with the easy

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Availab le ?

2004-02-20 Thread Jim Cooper
> I am curious. Why don't they compare the expected revenue streams from > writing for both platforms? Because 1. That's hard to impossible to be accurate with, especially if you've never written PDA apps before 2. At first glance they appear similar (PPC and PalmOS have roughly equal shares of

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Available ?

2004-02-20 Thread Jim Cooper
> Go to I find a certain amount of irony in how complicated all your suggestion :-) > If you're not willing to do those things, I don't see why you > should expect better answers than "because that's the way it is" > and "duh, yes". Or on the other hand, I could read the sensible and straigh

Re: Guess what's available for download... :)))

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Sorry if I made a confusion, I was talking about CW 9.3 at ftp://ftp.metrowerks.com/pub/updates/CWPP9/CW_PalmOS_9.3_Update.exe Colin Mitchell wrote: yes, a location would be just dandy... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Orriss

GPS program of OReilly

2004-02-20 Thread KEN
hi, does anyone ever try the GPS program of OReilly Palm OS Programming: The Developer's Guide, 2nd Edition ? (which can be downloaded from http://www.calliopeinc.com/palmprog2/code.html (GPS of Chapter 13) ) when I run the program in my Palm (m505) and connected to the GPS (GARMIN), no matter

Re: how to display Local file listing

2004-02-20 Thread Luc Le Blanc
Pinaki Roy a écrit : > hi, > can anybody guide me with ideas or approach how i > can display all local file listing in Palm?? > Thanx in Advance for any help > pinaki > Read the "Functions" section of the "Data and Resource Manager", "VFS File System Manager" and "List" chapters of the Palm OS

OS defers screen draws while pen down?

2004-02-20 Thread Luc Le Blanc
Does the OS defer screen drawing operations while the pen is down and not moving? This is the odd impression I get from two cases: * when extending a selection in a field with FldSetSelection to make the display work à la Global Find results; the selection only appears when the pen gets lifted, wh

Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Hi Ben, I tried to install CW9.3 and it maked my custom ArmletRuntime a complete and uncopillable mess. Ok, deinstalled CW(+folder delete), reinstalled, applied 9.2 & 9.3 and recompilled the buildall - everything's fine. But when I'm trying to compille multisegment shared library with PNO insid

Re: NetLibReceive() blocks

2004-02-20 Thread Brian Smith
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Jonathan Niedfeldt wrote: > If I set it to "true" my NetLibSocketConnect() call returns an error of > "netErrWouldBlock" and fails... For those experienced in TCP/IP programming, this is expected behavior. That return code is just letting you know that the connect operation i

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Further tries - I've made backup of the project and cleaned it up - everything exvept the source files and the project itself. I've got the error again. UPDATE: This is a *major* issue! All my pno projects refuse to compille! UPDATE2: Haha, even a new PNO Stationary project can't be compilled. f

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> UPDATE: This is a *major* issue! All my pno projects refuse to compille! > UPDATE2: Haha, even a new PNO Stationary project can't be compilled. fun. did you rebuild the support libraries? it asks you to do so after installing 9.3 update. i installed it, but, haven't done that yet. --- Aaron Ard

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Yes, I rebuilt them, as I mentioned in my first post. Try to compille something with pno inside, I'm very interested what will happen. Just try to make a new PNO Stationary and compille it. Aaron Ardiri wrote: UPDATE: This is a *major* issue! All my pno projects refuse to compille! UPDATE2: Haha

PNO development, PRC Tools or CodeWarrior?

2004-02-20 Thread Laurens
Hi, (I tried posting my question to the pno-forum, but my message is not showing up.) I get the impression that for PNO development I'm better off using CodeWarrior. I can find almost no documentation on PNO development with PRC Tools. What do you people advise? Go for CodeWarrior, not knowing

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Availab le ?

2004-02-20 Thread Dave Lippincott
Its not that simple. Believe it or not, the majority of hand held systems are sold into the enterprise/industrial markets. Companies tend to standardize on one platform. More often than not it is a PPC and the reasoning goes like this... We already use .NET and VB, just use the platform that co

Re: Events and active forms

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Bandouch
Peter Easton wrote: A very good question! The best way to handle this is to create your own "event" queue and post a custom event when you add an event to this queue. In your main form loop, when you receive this custom event you should retrieve the BT event from your custom queue. Also in your

Re: palm-dev-forum digest: February 19, 2004

2004-02-20 Thread Brad Jones
On Feb 20, 2004, at 1:00 AM, Palm Developer Forum digest wrote: So, uh, how about the new developer suite. Is it available yet? There are some logistical issues being worked out, related to the fact that the download is 250MB, and there are 300,000 developers who may want it (not counting Aaron a

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Combee
At 07:00 AM 2/20/2004, Flex wrote: Hi Ben, I tried to install CW9.3 and it maked my custom ArmletRuntime a complete and uncopillable mess. Ok, deinstalled CW(+folder delete), reinstalled, applied 9.2 & 9.3 and recompilled the buildall - everything's fine. But when I'm trying to compille multiseg

Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Allen Robin E CRPH
All, I recently wrote a Palm App that met with much success here at work. Now they want me to convert it to run on a Pocket PC, Ugh! I am not thrilled, but hey, I do what I'm told. Has anyone had any experience with doing this? I programmed the code using GCC, pilrc, and Palm SDK 5.

Re: PRC File NetLib Streaming

2004-02-20 Thread David Thacker
"Régis Daniel de Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi all!!! > > I need to make a app that will receive a PRC file sent as binary mode > through stream socket connection. But, i don't know how to proceed when the > chunks of data arrive on the device. > > Does

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Thanks Ben, As always you are very helpful. Your explaination pointed me to ARMlet_Runtime.a - this is the only ".a" file which is included (btw the error says nothing about which file is invalid). So I went to the armlet runtime, deleted everything except the sources, rebuild and miracle - ev

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Combee
At 09:42 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote: Thanks Ben, As always you are very helpful. Your explaination pointed me to ARMlet_Runtime.a - this is the only ".a" file which is included (btw the error says nothing about which file is invalid). So I went to the armlet runtime, deleted everything except the

Re: Invalid ELF Object File with CW 9.3

2004-02-20 Thread Flex
Sorry :( It really says that the error is in armlet_runtime.a. Never noticed this button :( So I faced some strange compiller/linker error that produced an invalid armlet runtime file (you want it?). Anyway it's now working so I can continue with the work. Ben Combee wrote: At 09:42 AM 2/20/20

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Manoel Teixeira
I've developed the memory, data and now, the form api. If you want, I can send you the lib's for evaluation. Manoel On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:23:13 -0500, Allen Robin E CRPH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > De: Allen Robin E CRPH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Data: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:23:13 -0500 > Para:

Re: Events and active forms

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Bandouch
Ah, by the way. I think I cannot use STL's queue container for the event queue, or can I? Is the STL library in general supported? Thx, Jan Peter Easton wrote: Hi Jan, A very good question! The best way to handle this is to create your own "event" queue and post a custom event when you add an eve

Re: Events and active forms

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Bandouch
And another thing! As a callback can interupt my running routine at any time, I have two (lets call it) "threads" reading and writing my custom queue. So I have like two processes and shared memory. So to handle that correctly I would need atomic read-lock operations and stuff, to be able to pro

RE: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Allen Robin E CRPH
Manoel, Yes! I am definitely interested! Please send them to me, and Thank you for your assistance. Robin E. Allen Computer Specialist Naval Surface Warfare Center Code 9521 Maintenance Monitoring And Information Systems Phone: 215.897.8553 Fax: 215.897.7807 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Events and active forms

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Combee
At 10:27 AM 2/20/2004, you wrote: Ah, by the way. I think I cannot use STL's queue container for the event queue, or can I? Is the STL library in general supported? CodeWarrior ships with a supported STL as part of the MSL C++ Library. I don't think the Palm OS version is configured to be thread-

RE: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Marcelo Henrique
Hye Allen, I'm working in a similar task. By my luck we wrote us application in CASL so will not chagen so much. But you will work a lot... All code parts covered by API PalmOS will need change. You will need take another tools to work with PPC. In Microsoft site you could download MS eM

RE: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Manoel Teixeira
I'm preparing the doc's during this weekend, during the next week I'll send it to you. Manoel On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:29:14 -0500, Allen Robin E CRPH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > De: Allen Robin E CRPH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Data: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:29:14 -0500 > Para: "Palm Developer Foru

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Richard Coutts
Manoel, I'm very interested in these, too -- are you distributing the source or just the libs? Will it work with the Codewarrior, or just GCC? Thanks, Rich -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/

RE: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Allen Robin E CRPH
Thank you! Robin E. Allen Computer Specialist Naval Surface Warfare Center Code 9521 Maintenance Monitoring And Information Systems Phone: 215.897.8553 Fax: 215.897.7807 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Manoel Teixeira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20,

DmSetDatabaseInfo

2004-02-20 Thread LionScribe
Does a call to DmSetDatabaseInfo change the modification date (if not specified) or mark the database as dirty and cause HotSync to back it up. LionScribe begin 666 Arye Schreiber.vcf M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"E9%4E-)3TXZ,BXQ#0I..E-C:')E:6)E[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/

MemoPad import/export under Cobalt

2004-02-20 Thread Brian Smith
I've got an application that can currently import/export records with MemoPad, and I'm in the middle of thinking things through for making it work with Cobalt. My current thinking is to not attempt the memo import with that version, as a) access to schema databases is apparently ARM-native-only ri

Re: Codewarrior 9.3 & Custom Fonts

2004-02-20 Thread LionScribe
In PilRC 3.1 it should be FONTFAMILY ID 128 FONTID 128 BEGIN FONT "SmallLowDensity.pfn" DENSITY 72 FONT "SmallHiDensity.pfn" DENSITY 144 END FONT ID 128 FONTID 128 "SmallLowDensity.pfn" LionScribe "Jamie Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just upgraded Codew

ExgSend - ExgDisconnect

2004-02-20 Thread LionScribe
It seems to me that on my Palm M100 (OS 3.5.3) the beaming process does not start until I call ExgDisconnect. All previous calls to ExgSend seem to be put in a buffer, and then very often it fails due to not enough memory. I am sending about 300K, and that's about the amount of free RAM in my devic

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Available ?

2004-02-20 Thread Jim Cooper
> You mean like a C++ class framework? Sorta :-) > There are several, including POL that comes with CodeWarrior. I believe it was that one that I looked at a while ago. I actually had something a bit more component-based in mind, like Delphi's VCL or the .NET (compact) framework. These are

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Available ?

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > You mean like a C++ class framework? > > Sorta :-) > > > There are several, including POL that comes with CodeWarrior. > > I believe it was that one that I looked at a while ago. I actually had > something a bit more component-based in mind, like Delphi's VCL or the > .NET (compact) fram

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Regis St-Gelais
"Richard Coutts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message de news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Manoel, > > I'm very interested in these, too -- are you distributing the source or just > the libs? Will it work with the Codewarrior, or just GCC? > I'm ame also interested and I have the same questions.

Newbie being shocked-trained by Constructor

2004-02-20 Thread Ted Pederson
I have become very wary about editing resources. Basically I have a number of problems if I delete or change certain types of resources. The easiest case to describe is this: delete some controls from a form with multiple buttons in it. Next time I run the program, one or more buttons now send

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > I'm very interested in these, too -- are you distributing the source or > > just the libs? Will it work with the Codewarrior, or just GCC? > > I'm ame also interested and I have the same questions. > I use CW. pocket pc and palmos are surprisingly similar; they work very similar from an even

Re: NetLibReceive() blocks

2004-02-20 Thread Jonathan Niedfeldt
Hi Brian, Actually the non-blocking calls work fine, but I may switch over to using the NetLibSelect call to make sure there is data there before calling the receive. This may work more generically on devices in the field. Thanks for the help. Jon "Brian Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in mes

Re: Newbie being shocked-trained by Constructor

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> This is getting painful, since these sorts of problems happen a lot. I > have Constructor 1.9.1. What is the problem? welcome to constructor. codewarrior r9+ now includes pilrc, where you can hand edit resources much easiler/more control than you could ever dream of having with constructor...

Re: Codewarrior 9.3 & Custom Fonts

2004-02-20 Thread Jamie Macleod
Thanks! That did it. The docs must need updating :) "LionScribe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In PilRC 3.1 it should be > FONTFAMILY ID 128 FONTID 128 > BEGIN > FONT "SmallLowDensity.pfn" DENSITY 72 > FONT "SmallHiDensity.pfn" DENSITY 144 > END > > FONT ID 128 FO

Re: NetLibReceive() blocks

2004-02-20 Thread David Webb
Here's a cheap an easy way. Not necessarily proper, but works well. There is a good explanation in Chapter 12 of Greg Winton's book "Palm OS Network Programming" on how to do it "properly". netHostInfoP = NetLibGetHostByName (netLibRefnum, svrAddress,

Re: NetLibReceive() blocks

2004-02-20 Thread David Webb
That previous post was code to connect when using non-blocking sockets. According to what I have read, you cannot change the blocking mode after connecting, so before that previous code segment run: // Set the socket to be non-blocking flag = true; NetLibSocketOptionSet (netLibRefnum, netSocketRef

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Availab le ?

2004-02-20 Thread Sander van der Wal
"Dave Lippincott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Its not that simple. Believe it or not, the majority of hand held systems > are sold into the enterprise/industrial markets. Companies tend to > standardize on one platform. More often than not it is a PPC and the

Re: Problems openening NetLib

2004-02-20 Thread David Webb
This is what I use to open the connection. Its a little more fault tolerant. netinfo is a global struct that holds all the net stuff. bOpen = false; allUp = false; if (NetLibOpenCount(netInfo.netLibRefnum, &opencnt) == 0) { if (opencnt) { // Verify that the interface is actually up.

Re: Net Lib only installed sometimes

2004-02-20 Thread David Webb
Try this instead: err = SysLibFind("Net.lib",&netLibRef); if (err) { err = SysLibLoad(sysFileTLibrary,netCreator,&netLibRef); -Dave "joe bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello Forum, > > I am running into a challenge with the Net Library. >

Re: Global find crashes epanded mode C++ app w/ virtual functions

2004-02-20 Thread Andrzej Ciarkowski
U¿ytkownik "Andrzej Ciarkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi. My C++ app uses virtual functions to handle variuos launch codes. From > what I've read about expanded mode it seems that if I enable it, I may use > this approach. It seems that e.g. POL uses suc

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Availab le ?

2004-02-20 Thread Laurens
"Dave Lippincott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Its not that simple. Believe it or not, the majority of hand held systems > are sold into the enterprise/industrial markets. Are you talking about handheld devices in general or PDA's specifically? Gartner estimates

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Richard Coutts
> if you just wanted palm/pocket pc support - you just need to write a > pocket pc library that is called via palmos API's and viola, statically > link it in. you are done. Aaron, I'm not being flippant -- is it really that easy?!?! That would be very cool. I agree with your comments about crea

Re: Palm OS Developer Suíte - Now Availab le ?

2004-02-20 Thread Dave Lippincott
Hand held computers in general. There is a whole class of hand helds that are 'mobile computers' and not classified as PDAs. I read recently, and now cannot find the bookmark, that majority of hand held systems purchased in 2002 were for the industrial market. I didn't see numbers. That may hav

Library questions

2004-02-20 Thread Ted Lowery
All- I am attempting to create a static library (C). Have done so and it works, however, I have two questions: 1) What is the diff between Standard Mode (A5-relative data) and Code Resource (A4-relative data), and when should I use each? Eventually, this static lib will be compiled into a sh

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> Unrelated to these topic, I see that plain ol' Windows is not one of your > Published Platforms. That would be very cool if the code could compiled to > run on the desktop -- making it easy to develop a desktop companion app. plain old windows is - where do you think you develop? --- Aaron Ard

Re: Converting Palm App to Win CE App

2004-02-20 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > if you just wanted palm/pocket pc support - you just need to write a > > pocket pc library that is called via palmos API's and viola, statically > > link it in. you are done. > > I'm not being flippant -- is it really that easy?!?! yes. some people have already done it here in this forum.

Bus Error calling CategorySelect

2004-02-20 Thread Ted Pederson
I have had these lines of code for a long time: name = (Char *)CtlGetLabel (GetObjectPtr (MainCategoryPopupPopTrigger)); CategorySelect(refNum, FrmGetActiveForm(), MainCategoryPopupPopTrigger, MainnCategoriesList, false, &gCurrCategory, name, 0, categoryDefaultEditCategoryString); They worked

Fear of upgrading to OS 5.x

2004-02-20 Thread Henry Skoglund
Hi, my customer's M505's USB Hotsync has stopped working again (wintertime in Birkastan, Stockholm, Sweden and static electricity abound). All of his M500 machines are much more immune, except one where the silkscreen goes inert in the winter, but I've bought them hairdryer, and tought them to heat

Re: Fear of upgrading to OS 5.x

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Combee
Your CW tool comes with several OS 5 simulators... Try running with those, and DL the 9.2 and 9.3 updates while you're at it. .. Original Message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:52:05 +0100 "Henry Skoglund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, my customer's M505's USB Hotsync has stopped working a

Digitizer Input

2004-02-20 Thread Franco Facioni
I'm trying to make an app that will display pen coordinates in OS 4 . I've been reading the API reference but I'm still not getting it. What order uses the OS to work with pen coordinates? there seems to be an awful lot of pen events... I'm just not understanding in which order the OS processes t

Re: Fear of upgrading to OS 5.x

2004-02-20 Thread Henry Skoglund
Hot damn, thanks Ben, my app worked right out of the box! (see pic.) Sorry I nagged before, I never bothered to look in all those directories... Thanks for you help! Best rgrds Henry P.S. Incidentally, if you replace "192.168.107.101" inside that ROM download URL with "www.palmos.com" things will r

Re: PNO development, PRC Tools or CodeWarrior?

2004-02-20 Thread desa
I am using PRC-Tools for my PNO development. It's arm compiler is very up to date using GCC 3.3.1. Here's a site I found that got me set up using the compiler. http://www.handheld-basic.com/documentation/text/page_1495.html Also, check out the (CodeWarrior Examples), that come with the 5.3 sdk.

Re: Palm OS Developer Now Available

2004-02-20 Thread Roger Stringer
Subject: Re: Palm OS Developer Now Available From: Ben Combee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:12:32 -0600 At 08:53 AM 2/19/2004, you wrote: >I use the Metrowerks 9.x toolset and find it works very well for large and >complex applications. I find it comparable, from an development ef

Quickest way to test for globals availability

2004-02-20 Thread Luc Le Blanc
What is the quickest way to test whether globals are available in OS 3-4? I need to know that from within a function that may be called by Global Find. I'd hate to have to propagate the launch code. I know I can test for the running app database and see if it's mine- is there something less tedious

Re: Quickest way to test for globals availability

2004-02-20 Thread Ben Combee
At 12:14 AM 2/21/2004, you wrote: What is the quickest way to test whether globals are available in OS 3-4? I need to know that from within a function that may be called by Global Find. I'd hate to have to propagate the launch code. I know I can test for the running app database and see if it's min