Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-12 Thread Aaron Ardiri
As Aaron's experience demonstrates, you can only slow down the crackers a little. The factors that make the most difference in whether or not people buy your software are 1) the quality of the software, and 2) the quality of the people who are interested in obtaining your software.

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-12 Thread Todd Walk
Joe Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:95359@palm-dev- forum: --- Todd Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing you should not do is make the demo and release versions the same, with just needing a code to activate it. If you do this, then someone can crack your program the same

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-12 Thread Aaron Ardiri
So, your motivation for writing and selling software is to get just 1 person to pay for it? Your unit price must be very high! (Smiley face omitted, because it won't help if you don't already see this as humorous.) Yup, that single $10 registration is my entire goal :-). (My full

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-12 Thread Todd Walk
Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:95381@palm-dev-forum: Yup, that single $10 registration is my entire goal :-). (My full time job is actually in EDA, and the full price of the product I work on is $115K a copy!) heh.. $115? a vertical market application i am working on is

Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Alexandre Kazantsev
Hi everybody, I've been unluckily trying to find out some information about the issue in archives. The issue is reasonable and reliable copy protection approach or trick. Our application is to be protected from illegal copying, and I am looking for a programming method to secure our copyright.

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Joe Malone
--- Alexandre Kazantsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is reasonable and reliable copy protection approach or trick. Our application is to be protected from illegal copying, and I am looking for a programming method to secure our copyright. Any copy prevention you create can be

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Keith Monahan
serial number scheme. YMMV, Keith M - Original Message - From: Joe Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: Re: Application copy protection --- Alexandre Kazantsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Aaron Ardiri
Keep in mind that users also have fair use rights. Too often copy protection becomes copy prevention, much as the digital rights managemernt buzzword is often implemented more along the lines of digital rights denial. well, its professional suicide if you annoy your users :) hehe What

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Henk Jonas
Aaron, you could still grab it using screen copy in POSE :-) Henk Aaron Ardiri wrote: we (mobilewizardry) are using encryption etc not to protect the applications these days, but, to prevent other developers stealing code/graphics from us :) [not that i expect it to happen, but, you never

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Kristian Penno
Why not issue a key which is some hash of the device serial number. The user enters it in once and the application stores it as a 'feature'. Each time the app runs, it checks for the presence of the key, and checks if it is valid against the devices serial number. This way, the user only has to

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Douglas Handy
Kristian, The only way this can be broken is if someone dissassembles your app, locates the hashing code and discovers your hashing algorithm. Not so. Go back and read Keith's post, and Aaron's white paper linked in Joe's message. You *don't* need to discover the hasing algorithm. You just

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Todd Walk
One thing you should not do is make the demo and release versions the same, with just needing a code to activate it. If you do this, then someone can crack your program the same day. If the demo and release are different, then at least one person has to pay up. Aaron has mentioned before his

Re: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Joe Malone
--- Todd Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing you should not do is make the demo and release versions the same, with just needing a code to activate it. If you do this, then someone can crack your program the same day. If the demo and release are different, then at least one person

RE: Application copy protection

2002-09-11 Thread Billy Ng
. Is it correct? Intersting and surprising Regards Bn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Malone Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:48 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: Application copy protection --- Todd Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One