We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his
contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared
with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all
the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You
We mourn the passing on of comrade TF. He indeed was larger and his
contribution to Afrika momentous. I too have seen TF at work and have shared
with him in debates and platforms. It was always evident that he had come all
the way through the ranks, picking valuable lessons and skills along. You
I find that some of your arguments comrade Ray, provide theoretical torch-light
to the debate, much needed in the PAC which has of late been infested with
ordinariness of proportions that must worry us.
In my earlier post I asked whether Marikana means anything to us, the PAC and
whether the m
Like many of us I was astounded at the brutality visited on our people in
Marikana, particularly its planned side.
In spite of the above and the many condemnations and visitations of support, I
have been at critique with my innerself, probing what this means if anything
for us, us members of t
Great analysis comrades Mabaso and Kgagudi. Somehow the bar has been raised on
this platform, I am a proud member, you learn, I learn and we grow in the
process.
I am sincerely pleased at the level!! Very insightful.
Let us take this debate further here or on a separate discussion document.
Re
I had the privilege of attending court proceedings in the matter of 'PAC vs
PAC' on the 1st August 2012, in Cape Town while on private business that side
of our land. And while sitting there listening to arguments by both sides and
the intervening remarks by the Judge I appreciated once more the
A closer look at the South African society and its structural organisation
suggests we are headed for change of government much sooner than many believe.
While most of us share in the analytic conclusion that the ruling regime is on
a collapse mode, we have however not given ourselves time to po
Dear comrades,
Two days ago on the 27th July 2012, I and others on invite attended the 85th
birth day celebration for Mme Veronica Zodwa Sobukwe.
First, I wish to thank the Robert Sobukwe Trust (RMS) for the invite. I also
want to commend Jaki Seroke for his illustrious leadership. He and other
I knew you will fall for the bait. I know who you are. Could you be kind enough
to use your real name, I want you to be a man of honour. Nevertheless I will
help you, but pls read past emails including the immediate past, and maybe
reading Raymond s piece will also help you as you seem to think
I knew you will fall for the bait. I know who you are. Could you be kind enough
to use your real name, I want you to be a man of honour. Nevertheless I will
help you, but pls read past emails including the immediate past, and maybe
reading Raymond s piece will also help you as you seem to think
Hi Simphiwe, I am not exactly sure who you are but I suppose you are a member
of the PAC, our organisation.
Firstly, I don't think your alleged hypothesis is a good attempt at anything of
the sort. All you are doing, in essence, is to motivate for the decision to
contest for leadership on a wro
Yes sometimes mediocrity gets so repetitively loud that it blurs reality. For
many reasons this is a village joke par excellence devoid of any thought. And
of course some of us know there is no politics behind this, it is mushrooms who
are beginning to believe they are trees. The reality is that
I noted with interest the brief exchange between comrade Linda, Payco President
and Cde Sibeko. In discussion was the role and visibility of the youth movement
within and outside the ranks. The two in the end agreed that our space has been
deeply enchroached and that the youth wing could do more
Charles Taylor has been sentenced to 50 years. Gbagbo of Ivory Coast is on
trial, Mugabe is on the shortlist, Gaddafi is executed and so has been his
children, Seif awaits arrest to the Hague, a number of Africans are on the list
with some on the run while others enjoy temporary shields of diffe
The issue of whether we pursue congress or conference in July has become at
best a puzzle for me. Even more appalling has been how some amongst us have
vacillated from one position to the other on this subject without shame. I was
a keen follower of the debate on this forum when comrade Narius w
Comrade Linda, I am sure you speak as well for many of our cadres, supporters
and fans who endure this daily. And this is not fiction but fact, occuring
consistently.
The task of overthrow,the content of which always involves violence and power
grab, cannot be carried out half heartedly and not
I suppose your first paragraph is a microcosm of what our combat should entail.
The rule is simple, if you are not prepared to die for it you simply can't have
it. Contemporary history is abound with living testimonials to this line of
thought. And indeed because the task of overthrowing capital
What exactly is at the root of PAC 's deterioration over the years,
particularly since 1994? Is it the party 's ineptitude to provide a programme
of action or is it the weakness of the leadership, or for that matter both and
more? These questions have seized the party and all of its organic memb
I am in full agreement that a rare opportunity such as today was could have
been exploited differently. These in the end are manifestations that the centre
does not hold. In this regard while I note the 20 minutes radio performance by
comrade Mlambo, my issue resides with the centre that has no
Your analysis is insightfully spot on.
The point you make about sacrifice and service is the cancerous destruct for
revolutionary parties the world over, the lack of it that is ! In the narrow
sense and perhaps more closer home, both the ANC and the PAC posture testify to
this point. You have a
At times naivety can project itself to the outer world as arrogance. Some
persons within this category also prefer the arrogance label as it gets them
feeling a sense of false control. A closer interrogation of whether Mr Phahlele
is arrogant or naïve needs to be drawn more from the facts, and l
The outcome of the Court proceedings in the matter pertaining to the legality
of the Alice Congress was as interesting as has been the many other legal
fracas the PAC has had to endure over the years.
Whilst this is continued evidence of the Party leadership s inability to find
the key driving
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The question of who precisely will and perhaps must lead Azania and Africa 's
revolution has been relentless in my mind. Whilst all indications are that we
are set for a revolutionary uprisings, not enough time has been spent on how
this will churn out.
Truly the question is multidimensional an
Sometime last year I derided the Pan Africanist Youth Congress NEC for
failing to tackle matters of interest to the youth and the public at
large. At that point I even questioned PAYCO ‘s legitimacy to challenge
the incompetence of the current PAC leadership under President Mphahlele.
I stated at
Narius et al,
It is always important for leadership to identify its place and
positioning in any contest. The inability of the leadership to place
itself appropriately in a contest is itself a confirmation of the lack of
it, and consequntly results in colossal damage to the party and its people
in
Comrade Cunningham,
I will be very brief not to raise your temperature any further than I seem
to have done, and for this I say it was unintended.
I most definitely believe you have a role to play in the rebuilding of the
party. And I agree that it is fact that you are senior to me and have been
My Comrade Cunningham,
You raise pertinent issues in the document titled threats and
opportunities, issues that have indeed been raised now and before. I must
state upfront that I share in the wish to protect the PAC from anarchists,
and people that have no appreciation of how the PAC could be st
Dear Comrades,
Mine is a very brief one, simply to say, complements for the new year,
2009, and wish all of you, individually, a more peaceful and succesful
year and beyond. I also take the opportunity to wish the PAC a better
performance in the upcoming elections. Credit should on this note be t
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