SV: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello! Mike i think you're right here. Ok i am not good at american accessibility issues neither american politics. But from my point of view here in Sweden there are many things that is more important than a player. For example crossing the street with no fear, getting help in a store etc etc. The

Easy CDDA Audio Converter

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am having tr

Re: talks

2008-06-08 Thread Josh
Hi, and if you want a go phone or trac-phone, go with the nokia n75 with the pay as you go plan and mobile speak or talks. Or you can get a smart phone with mobile speak pocket if it runs windows CE6 or windows mobile6. Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 -

Re: Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information

2008-06-08 Thread Josh
Hi, I agree. and as a person who is trying to get sony to comply with their games and consoles. My brother has a playStation and x-box and a few other systems. I've seen the games he plays, and I know for a fact. that if the companies wanted to make these consoles and games accessible, they coul

Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate NewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Mike Pietruk
Chris I agree with you entirely. What blind people have to keep in mind that even sighted folks can have problems in using certain pieces of software. Just because someone can see doesn't mean that every peice of software will necessarily work on everyone's pc. Some software is just out of

Re: [gui-talk] Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmerica Online (AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Josh
Hi, Ok, so how do we get the companies to make video game consoles, and video games accessible? I know for a fact that playstation and other games support stereo, 3d, and surround sound. They have for years now. But yet we still cannot play most games. How hard would it be to add some kind of sp

RE: talks

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Talks does not work with any Verizon phone, since there are no Verizon phones running the Symbian OS. I'm not really sure how this relates to the subject matter of this list, so just thought I would pop in to say that if anyone does want to discuss cell phones and their use by blind people, you ar

Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate NewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi. I think this discussion has really gone beyond what we're supposed to be talking about here so I'll just make my last comment on it by turning things back to some kind of audio related thing here. I understand both points, I see how Darrell feels because on one hand people shouldn't have

Re: talks

2008-06-08 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello Garry, I have some bad news for you man, my cell phone will not support Talks. I say that because the LG VX-8350 wasn't listed among the cell phones that can run Talks. But thanks for the info any way! My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Gary King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate NewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Yeah, but yahoo has, at least found a solution; call or email them. In my experience, this has bearly been an inconvenience. I was on the phone in minutes, and I had my acount created by a representitive. Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAI

SV: Irritating with stiream companion.

2008-06-08 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I solved the problem. I was not aware of that you couldn't play the 3gp files on the computer with stream companion. /Anders. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För constantine (on laptop) Skickat: den 5 juni 2008 05:22 Till: PC Audio Discussion

Re: Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information

2008-06-08 Thread Bruce Toews
Could we please respect the list moderator's request that this discussion not continue on this list? Thank you. Bruce -- An accessible captcha solution that does not take into account the needs of the deaf-blind is no acceptable solution at all. Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Wi

Re: Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information

2008-06-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi James, I think that a bunch of blind people organizing a boycott wouldn't do any good, however, if we can find ways to convince our sighted colleagues, friends, relatives and neighbors to purchase only from companies that also happen to pay attention to accessibility, then, we would have som

RE: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate NewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread albert griffith
Marsha, this is why I feel we should give them the benefit of the doubt given their progress over the last few years. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:01 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Acce

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Albert, Chris and all, I do think Tom Wlodkowski is doing his best in this situation, but it is also clear to me that AOL's accessibility team has no real significant power. They can give advice to others within the company. Sometimes, those others decide to follow it, other times they do

Re: talks

2008-06-08 Thread Orhan Deniz
Hi christopher, I agree. Personally, I would recommend either E series or N series phones. These phones have E and N model numbers Like E65 and N73 Hth, Orhan.Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.c

Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Marsha
You may not like AL very well; however, they have made their capcha accessable which is more than Yahoo has done. Marsha Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: talks

2008-06-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Personally, I'd avoid Series 80 and Series 60 2nd edition phones right now. Nuance has updated Talks for Series 80 phones in a while and Nokia hasn't released a Series 80 phone in a while either. Similarly, Series 60 2nd edition phones aren't being produced any more, and I don't know how much l

RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-08 Thread albert griffith
Chris, in the main I agree with your stance on this issue. However, I don't think it's important that we know whether AOL could have made a decision sooner. While I'd like to satisfy my curiosity with regard to this issue it will be very difficult to prove. Furthermore I don't believe the law ma

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-08 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Well, guess this doesn't really apply to me, since I'm not in america (hence, don't have to pay healthcare and the dollar is good- but that's off topic), but I believe with james on this issue;we should be looking at different solutions, after all, there are a lot out there- just to name a few:

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I fully believe that law suits should be a last resort, and we shouldn't "panic". In this case though, I'd like to point out a few things. "we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience" I believe Curti

RE: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread albert griffith
Mike, I couldn't agree more. It's not time to panic yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:14 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaO

Re: talks

2008-06-08 Thread Orhan Deniz
Yes, and nearly all of those phones are nokia's I think there is one seamens and samsung, but all people I know use talks use them on nokia phones. and, don't just go out and buy a nokia phone, becuase not all of them will work. It has to be either 2nd generation or 3rd generation symbian, serie

Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information

2008-06-08 Thread TheLearningCenter
For as long as I can recall, which is ever since AOL has been around, their services have not been that accessible to Blind people. I know I have heard that they have done some things to make their services more accessible to us, but it has been a struggle for them to even do anything. I guess

Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Mike Pietruk
Darrell First, what I want is to try this player to see if there is anything wrong with it ?? How can I intelligently comment on something when it may even work for me if I need it to. And there may be other ways at getting at the same stations I much prefer. What you have here is a warning, fo

RE: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-08 Thread Mike Pietruk
Albert I saw the msg; but, on the other hand, experiences of actual users will be even more valuable. The heads-up from the AOL exec certainly puts everyone on notice and watch; but, many times, what someone technically views as inaccessible may well be usable. The problem with this whole acces