Re: [Pce] Control vs Computation

2012-11-12 Thread Jan Medved (jmedved)
Oscar, On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Oscar González de Dios wrote: So… one of the main discussions so far has been the “delegation” function. The name of delegation itself (and the description in the draft) suggest a control in the PCE, and that it is the PCE the element that ma

[Pce] Control vs Computation

2012-11-12 Thread Oscar González de Dios
Dear PCErs, Let's follow Ed suggestion of renaming the thread discussion to "Control vs Computation", and try to agree in this point (other threads can be started for other discussions, such as what can be computed or not). I'll try to summarize my vision of control vs computati

[Pce] Control vs. Computation (was Re: Questions about stateful PCE, relation to WG charter and opinion about stateful PCE)

2012-11-09 Thread Jan Medved (jmedved)
Igor, On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Igor Bryskin wrote: > Jan, > > You said: > => draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce does not change the control of the LSPs - it > still remains with the PCC. A network controller would have to be able to > dynamically add/delete LSPs in order to fit in the model that

[Pce] Control vs. computation

2012-11-09 Thread Igor Bryskin
Ed, Jan and all, CCAMP has developed a mechanism (RFC5493 and RFC 5852), using which a network controller can obtain the ownership of LSPs created via control plane. This done, the network controller can use information received from the companion stateless PCE to optimize their paths and then r

[Pce] Control vs Computation

2012-11-09 Thread Edward Crabbe
Igor et al Can we please separate the discussions, as Oscar made multiple unrelated arguments in the original post? I'm renaming this thread. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Igor Bryskin wrote: > I completely agree with Oscar. > > The statefull PCE as defined in RFC 4655 is clearly different fr