Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended versioning, svn, and nightly builds

2009-09-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Basically the test builds are all from trunk, except the 'pd' part which is from the pd-extended branch. Once it hits the release cycle, then everything is added to the pd-extended branch You can use rsync, search puredata.info for 'rsync' or using SVN like this: svn co

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:34 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 24/09/2009, at 19.26, Steffen Juul wrote: Is the Mac OSX/Intel build made for 10.5? - Thing is it doesn't run on my 10.4 system So i try to make a test build myself. I try the i don't have libtools method (described at [0]). And the

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 27/09/2009, at 19.37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Right now, the only Mac OS X build machine is a part time lab machine running 10.5, so hence the 10.5 builds. In understand. The newest seam to be 10.6, so 10.4 might be the new

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 19.28, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think you need to use the 'unstable' repo for Fink to get libtool2. Check the Fink FAQ. Thanks for you reply. It turns out that using the unstable repo do let Fink install

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 22.22, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now the problem is: (snip) msgfmt --check --tcl --locale=vi -d . vi.po make[1]: *** No rule to make target `.msg', needed by `all'. Stop. make: *** [locales] Error 2 Clue? Hmm, try

Re: [PD-dev] lib.pd on pd-extended

2009-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That moocow issue is caused by the fact that with Pd-devel and Pd- extended everything is now built in-place in 'pd/src' rather than those odd 'pd/obj' and 'pd/bin' dirs. Should be fixed in this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revrevision=12502 .hc On

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 30/09/2009, at 19.49, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 30/09/2009, at 9.46, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: btw, on a non fink contaminated machine running 10.4 i have autoconf 2.61 installed which can process the

Re: [PD-dev] [LONG] Building extended on amd64

2009-09-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:49 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:17 PM, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: You need to install the fftw3-dev package. Martin muranyia wrote: # sudo make install ... cc -DPD -I/home/muranyia/Download/0.41/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb -I/home/

Re: [PD-dev] [LONG] Building extended on amd64

2009-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 1, 2009, at 7:34 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/1 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at András Murányi wrote: Thanks! Without root i'm still getting those access denied errors, as root most likely because you checked out as root, which results in files being owned by root and

Re: [PD-dev] PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds

2009-10-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 30/09/2009, at 21.12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Steffen Juul wrote: I thinking about fx. the last '.msg'. I feels like a loop that stops one too late. Any version of gettext from Fink will more

Re: [PD-dev] Tabbed Console plugin

2009-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's awesome! It just worked for me, using pd-devel Tcl/Tk 8.5 (this plugin requires 8.5), here's my simple example patch: tabbedconsole-example.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Oct 2, 2009, at 2:45 PM, András Murányi wrote: Dear all, i've attached the first version of a

Re: [PD-dev] [LONG] Building extended on amd64

2009-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:06 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/2 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 1, 2009, at 7:34 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/1 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at András Murányi wrote: Thanks! Without root i'm still getting those access denied errors

[PD-dev] pd-extended Gem now builds from 0.91 branch

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
After a conversation with IOhannes, I just made the switch for the Pd- extended nightly builds to use the 0.91 branch: https://pd-gem.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-gem/branches/0.91/Gem/ .hc You can't steal a

Re: [PD-dev] [GEM-dev] pd-extended Gem now builds from 0.91 branch

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Doh, 0.92 is the new release! Changing it now... h.c On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:52 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello, why using the old 0.91 better than 0.92? Cyrille Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : After a conversation with IOhannes, I just made the switch for the Pd-extended nightly builds

[PD-dev] nightly builds for standalone libraries

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think it would be super useful to have nightly builds for standalone libs, not only Pd-extended. I think the easiest way to handle this would be to have make dist be the interface. Basically have a script that has a listing of the libraries to build, then it would run thru them and

[PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2009, at 9:19 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:02 PM, András Murányi wrote: x86_64. I also tried it without if/endif, cyclone still ignored it. Try sticking it directly in externals/miXed/Makefile.common. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] [LONG] Building extended on amd64

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2009, at 9:19 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:02 PM, András Murányi wrote: x86_64. I also tried it without if/endif, cyclone still ignored it. Try sticking it directly in externals/miXed/Makefile.common. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2009, at 4:29 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: $ make iem_tab i forgot to copy'n'paste the compiler line: cc -DPD -O2 -I/home/pd/src/pure-data/pd/src -Wall -W -ggdb -I/home/pd/src/pure-data/Gem/src -I/home/pd/src/pure-data/externals/pdp/include -DUNIX

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:45 PM, András Murányi wrote: what i can tell from andras' output, is that he seems to try to compile Pd-extended-0.41. this version is a branch of the repository that might well not have x86_64 fixes everywhere. thus i recommend: i guess you should upgrade to the

Re: [PD-dev] PD mime setup

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Justin Glenn Smith wrote: I would have sent this to the debian PD maintainer, but it appears the package is orphaned right now. If you the attached puredata.xml file into /usr/share/mime/packages/ and then run 'sudo update-mime-database

[PD-dev] newest portaudio for Pd-extended

2009-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I was thinking of updating the portaudio in Pd-extended to the latest stable release, which is not even that new (2007-12). Any reason why this might be a bad idea? .hc

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds for standalone libraries

2009-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So far I've been working on an autotools build system for pd itself, not libraries. I haven't used autotools in libraries, so I don't really know what a template would look like. I guess pdvjtools would be a good library to test out those ideas. .hc On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:11 AM, dmotd

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds for standalone libraries

2009-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
platforms. .dmg only seems necessary for the .app. .zip is supported everywhere and there are no longer any patent problems IIRC. .hc cheers, dmotd Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it would be super useful to have nightly builds for standalone libs, not only Pd-extended. I think

Re: [PD-dev] newest portaudio for Pd-extended

2009-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
this very soon. cheers Miller On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 01:10:38AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I was thinking of updating the portaudio in Pd-extended to the latest stable release, which is not even that new (2007-12). Any reason why this might be a bad idea? .hc

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:24 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/ svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd svn co https://pd

Re: [PD-dev] pd-lab build farm access

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Works for me, adding now. .hc On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:09 AM, dmotd wrote: hi, this is an official request for access to the PdLab nightly autobuild farm, as described in: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdLab i will be using the access to commit and continue configuring my revised

[PD-dev] including MSVC in Makefile template

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I know there are some of you who use MSVC. We are finalizing the new Makefile template, if you want to include MSVC rules in it, now would be the time to do it. Here's how: edit externals/ext13/Makefile and add the stuff for MSVC. The key part is that it can't break the other

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds for standalone libraries

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
working Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So far I've been working on an autotools build system for pd itself, not libraries. I haven't used autotools in libraries, so I don't really know what a template would look like. I guess pdvjtools would be a good library to test out those ideas. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] PD mime setup

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 6, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Justin Glenn Smith wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Justin Glenn Smith wrote: I would have sent this to the debian PD maintainer, but it appears the package is orphaned right now. If you the attached puredata.xml file

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds for standalone libraries

2009-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
the one week workshop, i can say they are very stable, maybe still a few problems on OSX, as we don't test so much there, maybe you could help? Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: How stable are the opencv objects? Do you think the API will still change? It would be nice to have them included in Pd

Re: [PD-dev] latest SVN make install doesn't copy tcl folder

2009-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, Miller is integrating it. There is still work left to be done, and work that has not yet been integrated, so if you want to test it, I recommend using the pd-gui-rewrite branch. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite .hc On Oct 10, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Spencer Russell wrote: Looks

Re: [PD-dev] Tabbed Console plugin

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:08 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/8 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com 2009/10/5 Steffen Juul st...@dibidut.dk On 02/10/2009, at 20.45, András Murányi wrote: i've attached the first version of a Tabbed Console plugin. The goal is that new messages can be

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:10 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:24 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/ trunk/ svn co

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:52 PM, András Murányi wrote: inst /home/muranyia/Download/pure-data/packages/linux_make/build// DEBIAN sed -i 's|^Version:.*|Version: 0.42.5-extended|' \ /home/muranyia/Download/pure-data/packages/linux_make/ build//DEBIAN/control sed -i

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/12 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:52 PM, András Murányi wrote: inst /home/muranyia/Download/pure-data/packages/linux_make/build// DEBIAN sed -i 's|^Version:.*|Version: 0.42.5-extended

Re: [PD-dev] iem_tab on amd64 WAS: Building extended on amd64

2009-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:07 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/10/12 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:52 PM, András Murányi wrote: inst /home/muranyia/Download

[PD-dev] jack_fixes_0.41.4.patch

2009-10-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:36 + From: zmoel...@users.sourceforge.net Subject: [PD-cvs] SF.net SVN: pure-data:[12585] trunk/packages/patches/jack_fixes_0.41.4. patch To: pd-...@iem.at Message-ID: e1mxh1q-0002kj...@bj8yhf1.ch3.sourceforge.com Content-Type: text/plain;

[PD-dev] Plugins Prefs plugin WAS: Tabbed Console plugin

2009-10-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:39 PM, András Murányi wrote: i've attached the first version of a Tabbed Console plugin. The goal is that new messages can be sorted on new tabs by their prefix (the part before the colon). It already has a bug since it cannot deal with so many tabs that go

Re: [PD-dev] Building extended on amd64

2009-10-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:15 PM, András Murányi wrote: /home/muranyia/Download/pure-data/packages/linux_make/build//DEBIAN/ control Sorry, I'm terrible! So the actual file shows: Version: 0.42.5-extended Shall I change it to Version: 0.42.5~cvs1-1 ? Andras control Yes? You don't need to

Re: [PD-dev] Building extended on amd64

2009-10-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 28, 2009, at 3:18 PM, András Murányi wrote: Do you have 'sed' installed, i.e. does /usr/bin/sed exist, or /sw/ bin/sed? You could also try commenting out the section that changes the version in packages/linux_make/Makefile. Comment out these two lines then set the version in

Re: [PD-dev] pd.tk question

2009-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ivica, Just make it a global, that's the easiest. Or use namespaces and namespace variables. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to declare a variable within a proc scope so that it can be referenced later externally? e.g. having

Re: [PD-dev] compiling pd-extended for ubuntu 9.10

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
My fault, 'bool' is typedef'ed not #define'ed so you can't test it with a #ifndef. I just discovered all this stuff is in the standard C99 header stdbool.h anyhow. 'svn up' externals/pdp/include' and try again. .hc On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:46 AM, patrick wrote: hi, i have this error

Re: [PD-dev] pd.tk question

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Hey Ivica, Just make it a global, that's the easiest. Or use namespaces and namespace variables. .hc I am not all that good with tk. Only learned what I had to to hack together better version of pd.tk. Any examples would be most

Re: [PD-dev] pd.tk question

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:12 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Hey Ivica, Just make it a global, that's the easiest. Or use namespaces and namespace variables. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] two patches for pd vanilla and pd-extended 0.42.5

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Here are two patches for g_editor.c that fix following issues in 0.42.5: 1) undo recreates patch cords with wrong color (I posted this one earlier by mistake on the pd-list) Accepted and committed. 2) graph on parent (GOP) enable and

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:03 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:13 PM, olsen sesselastron...@googlemail.com wrote: buenas ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, /usr/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/pidip/ pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_has_video

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ivica, I rewrote the scrollbar logic in 0.43 and its working well, as far as I can tell. Have you tried it out? I think its a similar approach, but the difference is that my code tries to keep things at 0,0 since Pd has a historical preference for patches having 0,0 as the upper

Re: [PD-dev] compiling pd-extended for ubuntu 9.10

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks. Fixed in svn, commit 12709. .hc On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:15 PM, patrick wrote: oups, sorry (same report as olsen)... fixed with: pd/externals/pdp/opengl/include/pdp_texture.h - bool pdp_packet_texture_isvalid(int packet); + int pdp_packet_texture_isvalid(int packet); pat

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:30 PM, patrick wrote: using svn, then rm -rf pd and: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.42/pd i am getting this error: fakeroot dpkg-deb --build /home/psc/src/pd/packages/linux_make/ build/

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:09 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:30 PM, patrick wrote: using svn, then rm -rf pd and: svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended

Re: [PD-dev] two patches for pd vanilla and pd-extended 0.42.5

2009-10-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 2) graph on parent (GOP) enable and then immediately disable crashes patches that haven't been closed prior to disabling GOP (to reproduce, open new patch-right-click-properties-enable gop-apply-disable gop-apply-crash). This one may

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You need to 'svn up'. .hc On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:29 AM, patrick wrote: thank you very much Hans, everything is working (only Bitstream Vera is missing). pat ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:59 PM, András Murányi wrote: ...and i got my package successfully built on Hardy 8.04 amd64. Thanks Hans! It starts up and seems to run smoothly - there's just some font weirdness. I imagined that upon this, pd-gui-rewite would happily load the libraries but

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-11-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:13 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/11/9 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at András Murányi wrote: Apparently, pd-gui-rewrite still doesn't load the libs, no ELF32 messages any more but all couldn't load plus a few unknown sybol errors. which unknown symbols?

[PD-dev] ubuntu/karmic nightly builds

2009-11-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I updated the Ubuntu/intrepid server to Karmic so we'll have 9.10 nightlies now. .hc I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these

[PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send/receives in reusable code, but with a global namespace, there is the potential for nameclashes. So I propose that for libraries,

[PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). For the 0.43 GUI plugins, currently, it will autoload any file called *-plugin.tcl anywhere in the path, so to install a 0.43 GUI plugin, you just drop the file into the Pd path

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: 2009/11/16 zmoel...@iem.at: Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: I am in the process of working on my 'framesync' library, and I just had a thought that I am not sure has come up before. Lots of times, we want to use send

Re: [PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). I think it would be even more userful to have hexloader work

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: (*) Pd has no non-globals, just obfuscated names.. Yeah, I also try to avoid globals as much as possible. With this library, its kind of mirroring the audio clock

Re: [PD-dev] auto-starting loaders

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:29 PM, András Murányi wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: It would be super userful to have an easy way to make the various loaders auto-load (Lua, Tcl, libdir, etc). For the 0.43 GUI plugins, currently

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 1, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I rewrote the scrollbar logic in 0.43 and its working well, as far as I can tell. Have you tried it out? I think its a similar approach, but the difference

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0 0 coordinate-centric design IMHO does not make sense. From historical perspective, old patches should still TTBOMK open just fine. Yet, if 0 0 approach is still imposed, it results in unintuitive behavior of scrollbars. e.g. try

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
in the e-mail: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-10/014298.html On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:12:50AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: 3) 0 0 coordinate-centric design IMHO does not make sense. From historical perspective

Re: [PD-dev] namespaces for send/receive

2009-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So I guess to make it localizable, it would have to be something like framesync/fps$1. Without a settable receive, it makes this kind of chore to deal

Re: [PD-dev] netsend (and more) crash bug SOLVED (patch included)

2009-11-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ico, You should post this to the patch tracker once you are ready to submit it. .hc On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Yay! Finally figured it out. Please disregard my netsend patch, it's basically treating symptoms rather than the source. It turns out that the

[PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updating it. I am working on becoming a Debian Maintainer, so I can get direct upload access. This is what I would like to address: - improved puredata.desktop for file associations,

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 19, 2009, at 1:58 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updating it. I am working on becoming a Debian

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:10:34PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems that Günter is no longer updating the 'puredata' package, so I wanted to start the process of updating it. I

Re: [PD-dev] updating 'puredata' package to 0.42.5

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 03:02:14AM +, Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:24:18PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Chris McCormick wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but if this is a

Re: [PD-dev] pd vanilla/extended bug

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a tough one. I made a simpler version of your bug patch with directions. But I agree, there is a lot of potential to GOP, but only if it is rock-solid. bug.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: All right. So, I've done some

Re: [PD-dev] bug when redrawing gop within gop inside a closed sub-patch

2009-11-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: So, if anyone is aware of the reason for its placement, it would be most helpful to learn more about that before making the final decision whether to keep/remove it. Because objectboxes and

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Please see attached. This one should work seamlessly on pd-extended 0.42.5 with Linux (it has *not* been tested with other platforms even though the basic premise of the redesign is that it should). Ico pdtk.tar.gz FYI, it doesn't work

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Please make either a diff/patch with only the scrolling stuff in it, or a version of the pd.tk with only the scrolling changes. If we are talking about the scrolling algorithm, then we should only be talking about that code, not ttk and other things that have nothing to do with

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-11-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:35 AM, i...@vt.edu wrote: Please make either a diff/patch with only the scrolling stuff in it, or a version of the pd.tk with only the scrolling changes. If we are talking about the scrolling algorithm, then we should only be talking about that code, not ttk and other

[PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-11-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, For the new 'puredata' package, I think we should add the user- installed paths that have been included with Pd-extended for a while now. Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) and add /usr/lib/pd-externals for the install path for

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: however, i don't see a really compelling reason why things should be moved from /usr/lib/pd to /usr/lib/puredata. it might be sufficient to symlink from /u/l/puredata to

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) What's un-Debian about /usr/lib/pd? the package name is not pd. the package name

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Additionally, I'd like to Debianize the directory names (i.e. / usr/lib/puredata) What's un-Debian about /usr/lib/pd? the package name is not pd. alternatively, the package name could be

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:57 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: the svn client installed on the build-machine (/sw/bin/svn) is somewhat outdated (1.4.4) and refuses to svn update the sandbox. this seems to be a common problem on more of the build machines (e.g. i

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The compelling reason is that 'pd' means multiple packages 'puredata', 'pd-extended', and perhaps others. Where is the harm in changing

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The compelling reason is that 'pd' means multiple packages 'puredata', 'pd-extended', and perhaps others. Where is the harm in changing this? but there are so many trivial patches in the world

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This is the documentation of the auto-build process, the last step is where it rsyncs over the source tree, which is mainly for rsync's --delete for a real clean start. http://puredata.info/docs/developer

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:49 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i recommend working on debian/sid, but this doesn't help me much if one of the autobuilds fails on the osx103 machine. i prefer to investigate directly what is going wrong on the failing machine

[PD-dev] new build machine: Mac OS X 10.4/Intel

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, In case you didn't already see it, we now have a Macbook Pro with a dead screen set up as a 10.4/Intel build server. Thanks for Greg Pond/ Sewanee for the donation of said Macbook. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Macosx104I386 .hc

Re: [PD-dev] svn on build farm (was Re: [GEM-dev] gem fails on 10.4)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:16 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: I reparented the PdLab page to the FrontPage rather than the AutoBuildProcess page. The Pdlab is not only for the auto-builds, but also for devs to work on foreign

Re: [PD-dev] externals for timecoded vinyl

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You should try the port yourself, its not hard. If you wrote these externals, then its just a few ifdefs. Here's an example of a Max/MSP object ported to Pd: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/io/xbee/ .hc On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:22 AM, komika wrote:

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 28, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I have been trying what you have been posting, but I haven't found a clean patch or pd.tk.. The standard format for submitting code to most open source projects is a diff -uw patch. That's the best way to submit them if you want people

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: please see attached patch. it applies cleanly against 0.41.4 extended as well as 0.42.5 extended. ico patch It works for me Pd-extended 0.42.5-20091112, thanks for that. Sorry for the delay, its been a busy week. Two things I tried: -

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
that you should do to assess the problem of text size being misrepresented by tcl tk's bbox call. Ico Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: please see attached patch. it applies cleanly against 0.41.4 extended as well as 0.42.5 extended

Re: [PD-dev] adding standard install paths to the 'puredata' package

2009-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The problem is versioning. One of the goals of Pd-extended is to be compatible with the same version of Pd-vanilla, i.e. Pd-extended 0.40.3 can run anything

Re: [PD-dev] much better scrolling algorithm (pd-extended 0.42.5)

2009-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I guess I didn't understand the nature of that issue. I haven't seen it. Tcl/Tk's bbox stuff seems to work with comments, do you mean IEMGUI text? .hc Hans, I really don't mean to be disrespectful but I am really getting frustrated

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended vs. gui-rewrite on X86_64 WAS: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10

2009-12-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:30 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/11/12 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com do all externals have the problem, or just a few? mmm, seems to me that none of them load. THat's an odd one. My guess is that perhaps the pd you are using and the externals that you are

Re: [PD-dev] how to debug segfaults in pd

2009-12-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For segfaults, I think that gdb is the best way to track it down. Once the segfault happens, you can get the backtrace (bt) to see where it happened. Then you can set breakpoint to make the execution stop at a certain point of the code, and step thru the code to see the values in the

Re: [PD-dev] Problem with Snow Leopard and Flext

2009-12-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You want the 'bt' (backtrace) from gdb. Basically, you want to find out which function it triggering the segfault. .hc On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Miguel Sánchez Valdés wrote: I get this error: pd_gui: pd process exited accept: Interrupted system call (4) Pt_Start() called Program

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended main window resize bug

2009-12-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its actually a bug in Tk, IIRC. I had a discussion on #tcl about it. I don't remember the detail , here's one descrtipn: :jenglish frame/toplevel/labelframes always make a geometry request whenever you [$w configure] them. If they have a geometry master, it will see the Configure

Re: [PD-dev] Other install_name_tool fixes

2009-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, looks like a complicated issue. Could you file a bug report? .hc On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Patrick Boivin wrote: Hi Hans, I spotted some other forgotten install_name_tool fixes with MacOS 10.4 version of Pd-0.42.5-extended-20091214 autobuild for: ./Contents/lib/libavcodec.51.dylib

[PD-dev] 'puredata' Debian sources moved to git

2009-12-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Paul Brossier has become the maintainer for the 'puredata' package and has put his files into the Debian git repo: http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/puredata.git;a=summary Therefore, I am removing trunk/packages/debian in favor of that git repo. .hc

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 58, Issue 13

2009-12-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:41 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: pd-cvs-requ...@iem.at wrote: -- Message: 6 From: p...@macosx104-i386.idmi.poly.edu Subject: [PD-cvs] load_every_help 2009-12-14_22.51.01 To: pd-...@iem.at Message-ID: mailman.4.1260874801.8788.pd-...@iem.at

[PD-dev] t_sample vs t_float in PDa vs vanilla

2009-12-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am attempting a merge of the PDa integer code with Pd-vanilla 0.43. Vanilla now mostly had the t_sample/t_float stuff ironed out, but there are a few minor differences between the two that I am not sure of. Here's the first that is in a bunch of places, including in d_arithmetic.c:

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