Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Steffen Juul wrote: Say you have a "t b b" and a "delay 0" connected to the right outlet, plus a "print left" and "print right" below these (sorry, can't type brackets here so no ASCII). Then even when the right outlet of "t b b" fires first, the "delay 0" will defer its ba

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 02:12 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > >>> there is no way in pd to tell how much behind schedule pd is with > >>> computing, or is there? > >> Yes, use [realtime] and [timer] and [-]. > > ah ok. interesting. with that you could

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: there is no way in pd to tell how much behind schedule pd is with computing, or is there? Yes, use [realtime] and [timer] and [-]. ah ok. interesting. with that you could construct a 'dynamic patcher' that just does NOT cause a drop-out, right? No,

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread pueblo
actually I still smile looking at your pd sexy poetry and although perhaps is too much for 12 year old children I don't see real violence in your post. In fact I appreciate your provoking attitude and wonder where this pd related creations may have a place. Is there really an OT pd list? how boring

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 19:35 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > that is what i do in netpd since last change. whenever a patch is > > loaded, it is not openen per message anymore but created dynamically as > > an abstraction. i found out, that it take

Re: [PD] [entry] changes

2007-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 01:34 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: > in order to work with pd-ext i had to rename some object in chat and > netpd-gui i.e. [l2s] to [zexy/list2symbol] or [netclient] to > [maxlib/netclient]. > is renaming zexy , maxlib objects with namespace the correct/only way > in pd-exte

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi, Would you have told this joke in a room with children within earshot? I hope not. The pd-list should be thought of a such a room. It's a room with many many different people of different ages and sexes, with different cultural backgrounds. It's a room where anybody is free to come and hear abo

Re: [PD] Pdpedia Español?

2007-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jaime Oliver wrote: Well, 'clase del objeto' doesn't sound all that well, but i don't think any translation will sound right, My mexican roommate Iveth says it's "clase de objeto", no L. The latter parallels French "classe d'objet(s)" and not "classe de l'objet", which s

Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread Max Neupert
whoops, i forgot you're on windows - i'm sorry (for the noise). Am 26.10.2007 um 20:23 schrieb Max Neupert: > you're thinking too complicated. > just use > arduino -> Pd -> MIDI -> Live > very simple. > > > > Am 26.10.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Enrique Tomas: > >> Hi amigos >> I have a question. I wo

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Enrique Erne wrote: there was a thread: slowly load patches/abs without dropout http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-01/046107.html the attached patch reads and creates a patch slowly triggered by a metro. as far as i remember i didn't implemented a correct arra

Re: [PD] [entry] changes

2007-10-26 Thread Enrique Erne
e symbol box. i have successfully tested on macosx103 with http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-26/ Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071026-macosx104-powerpc.dmg the entry in the GOP didn't display, does it for you? entry-gop-test works fine in pd-ext-039 in order to work with pd-ext i

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: that is what i do in netpd since last change. whenever a patch is loaded, it is not openen per message anymore but created dynamically as an abstraction. i found out, that it takes _much_ less time, if dsp is turned off before and turned on after creat

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Uğur Güney
On 10/26/07, vade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its a joke. Get over it. Comedians do it at venues of over a 1000 all the > time. Ever hear of George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Eddy Murphy (back when he was > funny..), etc etc. > # Of course we can understand that mail was a joke. But there are many kin

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Dafydd Hughes
I was going to stay out of it, but then my 12-year old sister just started asking me questions about Pd. She is going to learn about sex and all the rest on her own terms, in her own time. I want her to be able to learn about Pd from the list. I like Bill Hicks as much as anybody (well, probabl

Re: [PD] Pdpedia Español?

2007-10-26 Thread Jaime Oliver
Well, 'clase del objeto' doesn't sound all that well, but i don't think any translation will sound right, i believe most spanish users combine english words with spanish ones when talking about pd or any programming language. for example, > my $inlets = "entradas"; If translated back to english i

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread jared
I have a couple of female friends who are patchers. They think all of this is funny-a bunch of 'intellectual' men debating over how women feel! Women have been facing discrimination for ever..thank god most of these women have a better sense of humor than most of us here! -Original Message-

Re: [PD] [OT] about sexism

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't think Pd is the problem. It is built and they are coming. The problem is related to the nature of this community, this mailing list. I think the large majority of people on this list would like it to be less hostile and more welcoming. One thing that many people, male and fema

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread jared
Amen. God damn, that was well said! You got a PhD or something ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vade Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:27 PM To: Alexandre Castonguay Cc: PD List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] about sexy-i

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There are MILLIONS of outlets for sex humor: chat rooms, message boards, frats, etc. etc. etc. Please leave this place to be a welcoming discussion of Pd and find a different forum for this kind of stuff. MANY people are saying "we don't want to hear this kind of stuff here", if people r

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp_frei0r für frei0r 1 .1...

2007-10-26 Thread bigswift
oops forgot to load pdp firstduh... again ...nice. pixeliz0r is rather nice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_gensym > pdp_frei0r: can't load library > > > i get this when trying to compile > > pp > > > > [EMAIL P

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 10/26/07, Alexandre Castonguay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the post and this attitude has no place on this list. The use of > objects is smart but it doesn't excuse the moronic and offensive nature of > the post. What makes you think that your freedom of speech should come at > the e

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread vade
Its a joke. Get over it. Comedians do it at venues of over a 1000 all the time. Ever hear of George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Eddy Murphy (back when he was funny..), etc etc. Whether or not the PD list is the place for this, well, frankly, I'll agree it isnt, but that was my point about 3.5^10 em

Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread Olivier Heinry
Maybe you're looking for something like that: http://e-mu.org/?p=27 http://opensoundcontrol.org/node/134 Unfortunately liveapi.org seems to be down. Check in ggogle's cache ++ O. Le vendredi 26 octobre 2007 à 17:48 +0200, raul diaz a écrit : > ...and what about jack dmp fpr windows: http://jack

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp_frei0r für frei0r 1.1...

2007-10-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_gensym > pdp_frei0r: can't load library > > > i get this when trying to compile > i am pretty sure that you don't get this when you "load" (in pd), rather than "compile" (in gcc) if this is the case

Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread Max Neupert
you're thinking too complicated. just use arduino -> Pd -> MIDI -> Live very simple. Am 26.10.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Enrique Tomas: > Hi amigos > I have a question. I would like to control an Ableton Live version > 6 session using my Arduino based interface (under Windows ) . My > project is

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
I think the post and this attitude has no place on this list. The use of objects is smart but it doesn't excuse the moronic and offensive nature of the post. What makes you think that your freedom of speech should come at the expense of women feeling violated and insulted? I wonder if you would s

Re: [PD] Pdpedia Español?

2007-10-26 Thread Vircy Parker
Hallo, excuse me, I'm extremely interested but extremely busy, I hope to have free time in next days. About test templates, all is ok. Only two things, after to see the result: - "Clase del objeto" , sound well for spanish in the list? -I dont like Esbozo (->"template"), perhaps sound well in

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp_frei0r für frei0r 1 .1...

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
sounds like you don't have the correct path to the PDP sources, maybe? .ch On Oct 25, 2007, at 5:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: ./pdp_frei0r.pd_linux: undefined symbol: > pdp_gensym > pdp_frei0r: can't load library > > > i get this when trying

Re: [PD] Template français / French modèle

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I am running the import into the test wiki now: http://wiki.puredata.info/test/boids2d Fill in the infobox template to see if it all looks good: http://wiki.puredata.info/test/index.php? title=Template:Infobox_Classe_d%27objets&action=edit .hc On Oct 26, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Olivier Heinry

Re: [PD] Pdpedia Español?

2007-10-26 Thread Jaime Oliver
It looks good! J On 10/26/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ¡Hola compadres! > > I imported the test run for the Spanish templates into the test wiki, > but it seems no one had a chance to look at it. > > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-10/055452.html > >

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 18:23 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: > > > >Sometimes this can be useful. > > > > Ok. There is no use case that pops to mind. Got one? I think that if > > i had the need, i'd (re-)order it [t]'er-wise. To be a littl

Re: [PD] [OT] about sexism

2007-10-26 Thread vade
Chuck, for what its worth, I completely agree with you. Let PD evolve and serve its community, and dont foist it on any group. If you build it, they will come - assuming they are even interested. "The best way to be "gender neutral" is not to make the distinction." Word. Up. v a d e // www.

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread vade
Haha. That made my day. Well done. Yeah, calling him a virgin, real original. On Oct 26, 2007, at 6:39 AM, hard off wrote: i went to the [pool] last week, and met this zexy girl, she was a real GEM - a totally rradical chick. We started to [swap] some glances, and not being one to do anythin

[PD] Pdpedia Español?

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
¡Hola compadres! I imported the test run for the Spanish templates into the test wiki, but it seems no one had a chance to look at it. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-10/055452.html I am going to import the French template into the test wiki now, let me know and I'll impor

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 10:13 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: > > On Ven Oct 26 1:26 , Roman Haefeli sent: > > >On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 16:22 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > the main problem with dynamic patching is, that it is very

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: > >Sometimes this can be useful. > > Ok. There is no use case that pops to mind. Got one? I think that if > i had the need, i'd (re-)order it [t]'er-wise. To be a little risky > and "fresh"; I think using [delay 0] like that is "spaghetti

Re: [PD] [PD-ot] central collection/archive of patches and abstractions

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't think this is at all off-topic, by the way. I think you should post this on the main list. I think this is a good idea. It would be good to have a repository that is really easy to contribute too. I think this could happen on puredata.info. I think a really cool grand plan would

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates (French)

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote: > Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 14:48 +0200, Patrice Colet a écrit : >> Alexandre Castonguay a écrit : >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is >>> in the first >>> list. I like the translations but

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Steffen Juul
On 26/10/2007, at 16.36, Frank Barknecht wrote: You're missing nothing: "delay 0" is used to *deliberatly* "break" depth first for the tree following it and kind of convert it to "this depth last". Ah. I see. Thanks. It does work when nested too. (See attached for a demo.) Sometimes th

Re: [PD] [OT] about sexism

2007-10-26 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 10/22/07, Andrew Brouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is clear, in any case, that for these sorts of gatherings in the > Pd community, there is still a long way to go. > > As an old "gauchiste", I have always believed that the ultimate goal > for human society was for all people to be consid

Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread raul diaz
...and what about jack dmp fpr windows: http://jackaudio.org/node/13 look at this, it's for Mac but maybe it could work: http://www.zenpho.co.uk/how-to-use-jack-pd-and-live.pdf Saludos Tomas! P.D.: Me recuerdas de la facultad de BB.AA. de Cuenca? Estuve ayudando en el proyecto de la puerta de Sim

[PD] [entry] changes

2007-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, The netpd project's chat interface inspired me to fix up the [entry] object so that it could serve as the building block for a chat app. I've added a number of improvements: - fixed fg/bg color bug - created [add( message which allows you to add to existing text - added float suppo

Re: [PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.
Bravo! Not bad for a 15 year old [dickweed]... Go back to grade 10 you stupid [virgin]. xo ~d PS- Matju, I totally know that those objects don't actually exist ;) On 10/26/07, hard off <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i went to the [pool] last week, and met this zexy girl, she was a > real GE

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: > On 26/10/2007, at 15.00, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > >However "delay 0" compared to a direct connection will defer execution > >for a logical step. > > > >Say you have a "t b b" and a "delay 0" connected to the right outlet, > >plus a "print

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Steffen Juul
On 26/10/2007, at 15.00, Frank Barknecht wrote: > However "delay 0" compared to a direct connection will defer execution > for a logical step. > > Say you have a "t b b" and a "delay 0" connected to the right outlet, > plus a "print left" and "print right" below these (sorry, can't type > bracke

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote: > i think it will delay until the next block. Not quite: "delay 0" will do exactly as it tells you: It will delay zero milliseconds with is much less than one block: It's zero blocks. However "delay 0" compared to a direct connection will defer ex

[PD] Pix_Grab

2007-10-26 Thread Timon Botez
Was wondering about the pix_grab. It seems to (still) produce some strange results. I did post a comment on the bug report some time back. Just wanted to see if there was any follow up. Im using HCS' installer on OSX 10.4 PPC Thanks, T. ___ PD-lis

Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Enrique Tomas wrote: > I have tried to configure Pd in Ableton Live ReWire settings but I can't > see Pd as an available input. ReWire is configured because I can see > other software as Cubase, Reason, etc. As far as I know, Pd (and free or open source software in general) can't support ReWire

[PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?

2007-10-26 Thread Enrique Tomas
Hi amigos I have a question. I would like to control an Ableton Live version 6 session using my Arduino based interface (under Windows ) . My project is controlling Live with an Arduino. Because Ableton Live doesn't have OSC...(and liveapi.org is down) I think that the only way to do that is R

[PD] Template français / French modèle

2007-10-26 Thread Olivier Heinry
Hello Hans, here we go, for the french template, this time for good. ++ O. = # wikipedia terms $stub = "Ébauche"; $template = "Modèle"; $category = "Catégorie"; $infobox = "Infobox"; # pdpedia terms $objectclass = "Classe d'objets"; # page headers $inlets = "Entrées"; $outlets

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread hard off
i think it will delay until the next block. not sure how reliable it is though. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 13:40 -0400, marius schebella wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Well, yes, it was a pretty fundamental decision. Languages like > > SuperCollider, Nova and Csound to some extent show, that dynamically > > creating synthesis objects can work in a realtime system as well. >

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jeff, On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 14:37 +0200, Jeff Rose wrote: Anyways, it would be great to hear > what experienced people have to say about dynamicity in PD. > You might want to take a look at Thomas Grill's [dyn] http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/ext/dyn/ Although, I think if you fa

Re: [PD] Can you help me with this patch?

2007-10-26 Thread Javier Garcia
Marius Schebella wrote: > what you should do, to get the loop working is to add a [delay] before > frame 0 is triggered. I don't know if it should be a [delay 0] or a > [delay 40] Thanks Marius, it works now! Anyway if i put [delay 2000] it doesn't work, do you know why? Another question: [d

[PD] about sexy-ism

2007-10-26 Thread hard off
i went to the [pool] last week, and met this zexy girl, she was a real GEM - a totally rradical chick. We started to [swap] some glances, and not being one to do anything [unauthorized], i asked her, "hey, do you want to [route]?" ..she said "sorry it's that [time] of the month" and i said, "he

Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates (French)

2007-10-26 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 14:48 +0200, Patrice Colet a écrit : > Alexandre Castonguay a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > I think that was the suggestion. The double 'bb' for that word is in the > > first > > list. I like the translations but don't know about 'infobox'...'boite > > d'infos' ou s

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Enrique Erne
On Ven Oct 26 1:26 , Roman Haefeli sent: >On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 16:22 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> > >> > the main problem with dynamic patching is, that it is very likely, that > >> > it causes audio drop-outs. > >> > >> It wouldn't tak