Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Toward the second feature you described: what if clicking on or dragging an element in a ds array outputs the following list from the struct: element [click/change] (pointer) [index] Then at least a partial solution would be to use a "proxy" array as shown in the example patch. Currently to do

Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Oops, I mixed up the tabwrite inlets in that last example. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Miller Puckette wrote: > From: Miller Puckette > Subject: Re: [PD] Pointer to array > To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > Cc: jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 4:59 AM >

Re: [PD] ambi_decode3 ... getting the speaker feeds

2009-01-28 Thread e deleflie
I think I've got this figured out. (but need help with matrices) [ambi_decode3] spits out a matrix of numbers. Each line represents one speaker, each column (in each line) is the factor to multiply the appropriate component (or channel) of the incoming ambisonic signal. If I am right then all I n

Re: [PD] iem_bin_ambi on OSX ... missing objects

2009-01-28 Thread e deleflie
>> These objects that I cant create come from patches within the >> WindowsXP distribution that I found here: >> >> http://iem.at/Members/noisternig/bin_ambi >> >> It's the only example documentation that I can find for how to use the >> complex iem_bin_ambi and iem_ambi objects. The individual obj

Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm intending to figure out a way to "pointerise" named arrays but haven't got the design worked out yet. (Also, I'm hoping to allow the other sort of arrays to get used by the "tab" objects - I thing that would be quite powerful. cheers Miller On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:01:54PM -0500, Hans-Chri

Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
tabread, tabplay~, etc. gives you something that acts like a pointer. .hc On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Is it possible to get a pointer to arrays created by the "put" > menu or [table] object? > > -Jonathan > > > > > ___

Re: [PD] stereo vision

2009-01-28 Thread Luke Iannini
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:07 PM, wrote: >> Quoting Simon Kilshaw : >> >>> >>> Hey, >>> I got myself a pair of anaglyph glasses (like you get at the >>> cinema)- and managed to play around quite successfully with the >>> stereo patch in gem e

Re: [PD] stereo vision

2009-01-28 Thread Luke Iannini
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:07 PM, wrote: > Quoting Simon Kilshaw : > >> >> Hey, >> I got myself a pair of anaglyph glasses (like you get at the >> cinema)- and managed to play around quite successfully with the >> stereo patch in gem examples (pd extended- Have to be green and red >> glasses (not

Re: [PD] gridflow for Mac OS X?

2009-01-28 Thread bigswift
So am i to assume gridflow works as a binary now? It would be nice to have it work simply without compiling Thanks to everyone for the recent advances, pix_freeframe is wonderful Patrick Pagano Digital Media Engineer Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:3

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Andy Farnell wrote: I remember you explaining this before Mathieu, and it was with great dismay that I realised DesireData was not to be an alternative to pd-gui, but a complete rewrite of the whole show. Well it was way too late to realise that, I rewrote much of the C c

Re: [PD] generic pointer type WAS: PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Martin Peach
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Hmm, I don't think it would be so great for to have floats and ints in > Pd for most uses. This has probably been discussed before, but is > there any chance of generalizing the pointer type? Or perhaps there > should be just a generic pointer type, that's w

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Ray Rashif wrote: >> Smashing day >> == Part 1 == >> I'm trying to do some user-interaction and would like to use >> variables for >> handling filepaths. I understand this may not be a problem with >> Linux/Mac as >> we can use ~/ for

[PD] generic pointer type WAS: PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, I don't think it would be so great for to have floats and ints in Pd for most uses. This has probably been discussed before, but is there any chance of generalizing the pointer type? Or perhaps there should be just a generic pointer type, that's what I think IOhannes was proposing.

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Farnell
Yep, actually that was a prescriptive and arrogant thing of me to suggest dropping it. I have lots of patches that use it too. So, poor [shell], very useful, but quite broken (if you use it in any serious way). How can it be fixed? On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:12:14 +0100 Jack wrote: > I jus

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Jack
I just want to say that i am very happy tu use [shell] in my patch. It is very useful to execute a PHP script for exemple. ++ Jack Le 28 janv. 09 à 21:49, Andy Farnell a écrit : > > > Both Lua and Python are great suggestions. But avoid the issue > of fixing [shell]. It has been problematic

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Jack
Le 28 janv. 09 à 23:51, Frank Barknecht a écrit : > Hallo, > Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> >>> I agree a lot here. I think, the automagic in 0.42 is the first >>> time, >>> that something like that reached a wider aud

[PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Is it possible to get a pointer to arrays created by the "put" menu or [table] object? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > >I agree a lot here. I think, the automagic in 0.42 is the first time, > >that something like that reached a wider audience. Desire Data was more > >something cool to look at, but I

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Farnell
I remember you explaining this before Mathieu, and it was with great dismay that I realised DesireData was not to be an alternative to pd-gui, but a complete rewrite of the whole show. It seems there is a necessary intermediate step by which Pd is properly separated into two truly independent GU

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: I agree a lot here. I think, the automagic in 0.42 is the first time, that something like that reached a wider audience. Desire Data was more something cool to look at, but I doubt that many people managed to actually install and use it a lot. Plea

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Farnell
Both Lua and Python are great suggestions. But avoid the issue of fixing [shell]. It has been problematic for a long time and this is another opportunity to discover how to fix it, or deprecate/remove it altogether. I think there's something to be said for all Pd distros _not_ including [shell

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think there is a ton of potential to the ideas in desiredata and things like the new editing tricks in pd-vanilla 0.42. But they also have the large potential to cause harm to peoples' workflow. In desiredata, the workflow is almost comple

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread patrick
another solution is with pyext. in pdmtl abstractions it's under linux.process.pd (but i think it should work on windows and mac (not tested)). import sys, os, time, signal, subprocess try: import pyext except: print "ERROR: This script must be loaded by the PD pyext external" sys.exi

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Hello, Le 28/01/09 20:07, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Rob Canning hat gesagt: // Rob Canning wrote: anyone got solutions to these issues? or anyone with the skills agree that [shell] should be fixed or rewritten and included in another lib? I'd recommend to use pdlua instead of

Re: [PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Rob Canning hat gesagt: // Rob Canning wrote: > anyone got solutions to these issues? or anyone with the skills agree > that [shell] should be fixed or rewritten and included in another lib? I'd recommend to use pdlua instead of shell. You get a nicer language and can use it for many othe

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: == Part 2 == Look at the screenshots at http://digital.music.cornell.edu/kevinernste/tutorial_3_audio_input_and_recording Is that a Mac-specific look or could we patch the latest version to look like that? this is how

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: this is how Pd-extended looks like on all platforms. No, it's actually OSX-specific to the extent that all lines are blurred out to dim greys two pixels wide instead of being sharp dark lines one pixel

Re: [PD] can not get working xsample in ubunutu 8.04

2009-01-28 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi, have you read http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067457.html gr~~~ 2009/1/28 Fernando Godoy : > Hi > I compiled flext in ubuntu 8.04 because i need xsample. Then, when i > compiled xsample, using > >> sh ../flext/build.sh pd gcc >> sh ../flext/build.sh pd gcc install > > y ge

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: == Part 2 == Look at the screenshots at http://digital.music.cornell.edu/kevinernste/tutorial_3_audio_input_and_recording Is that a Mac-specific look or could we patch the latest version to look like that? this is how Pd-extended looks like on al

Re: [PD] iem_bin_ambi on OSX ... missing objects

2009-01-28 Thread patrick
hi, you can find simple abstractions for doing ambisonic encoding / decoding: http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions ambi.device.zoom2wxy~.pd ambi.device.zoom.read~.pd ambi.distance.7~.pd ambi.dominance.7~.pd ambi.mono2wxy~.pd ambi.mono2wxyuvpq~.pd ambi.mono2wxyz~.pd ambi.rotate.wxy~.pd ambi.r

Re: [PD] PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Martin Peach
Pd already has a t_int type declared in m_pd.h, the comments imply that it must be the same size as a pointer: /* signed and unsigned integer types the size of a pointer: */ #if !defined(PD_LONGINTTYPE) #define PD_LONGINTTYPE long #endif #if !defined(PD_FLOATTYPE) #define PD_FLOATTYPE float #en

Re: [PD] PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't quite follow, can you expand on that? Do you mean that Pd would have to include ints? Or that the C code should use t_int rather than int? .hc On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Martin Peach wrote: > I'm thinking that if Pd would just handle its own t_int type (as > MaxMSP > does) the

Re: [PD] PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Martin Peach
I'm thinking that if Pd would just handle its own t_int type (as MaxMSP does) then the blob stuff would be unnecessary. Martin Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Yes, indeed this is strange behavior. The string/blob stuff is in > need of an update, but its not very clear how to handle it. So

[PD] communicating with the shell

2009-01-28 Thread Rob Canning
hello, if have recently working on replacing the [shell] object (ggee) from my patches as it is leaving zombies all over the place - i believe this is a know issue? (2002) http://markmail.org/message/wrlpbaal75viugft (it would be really nice to have an object for communicating with the shell t

Re: [PD] Controlling openDMXpro usb interface from pd-extended

2009-01-28 Thread Alberto Santos Bellido
Hey, Managed to run wtf2osc python commands (thanks vincent). Now I'm when I try to run the OSC-help.pd example included I get this error within pd0extended: OSC ... couldn't create I can see this on pd startup messages: libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path 2009/1/27

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Ray Rashif
Thanks. Pretty strange, though..neither of those work (writing to Desktop). Making files at the workdir will suffice for now. Anyway, regarding the appearance, I was told by Hans the same on IRC a day ago or so - that it was the latest pd-extended. However, my copy of the Windows version Pd-0.40.

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
~/ will give you the home dir of the current user on XP with Pd-vanilla. And you can substitute backslash with slash mhv/SteffenLP Ray Rashif skrev: > Smashing day > > == Part 1 == > I'm trying to do some user-interaction and would like to use variables > for handling filepaths. I understand th

Re: [PD] pink noise

2009-01-28 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Frank~ This is awesome! I love the notes and the comparison toggle as well. Well done. ~Kyle On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > attached is some pink noise, one implementation to my knowledge is > > ne

Re: [PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ray Rashif wrote: Smashing day == Part 1 == I'm trying to do some user-interaction and would like to use variables for handling filepaths. I understand this may not be a problem with Linux/Mac as we can use ~/ for the user's home directory. What would be the Windows equivalent of that? I'd also

[PD] [Pd][Windows] Handling Paths and Visual Enhancements

2009-01-28 Thread Ray Rashif
Smashing day == Part 1 == I'm trying to do some user-interaction and would like to use variables for handling filepaths. I understand this may not be a problem with Linux/Mac as we can use ~/ for the user's home directory. What would be the Windows equivalent of that? I'd also like to know how to

Re: [PD] new comport thread

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
eva sjuve wrote: where I really wanted to point the guy to was http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/iem/comport/ ah thanks for pointing out that this information is completely out of date! the current URL to the subversion(!) repository is: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforg

[PD] new comport thread

2009-01-28 Thread eva sjuve
where I really wanted to point the guy to was http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/iem/comport/ to install comport since mbutubuntu doesnt have pd-extented and the easy way to find an external - put into search box on puredata.info ...

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I think there is a ton of potential to the ideas in desiredata and > things like the new editing tricks in pd-vanilla 0.42. But they also > have the large potential to cause harm to peoples' workflow. I hope > tha

Re: [PD] max for live

2009-01-28 Thread Vincent Rioux
dear list, I spent some time with tkzinc using the python wrapper and its pretty great... see end of this page for a short demo of a zoomable interface (well the rest is all in french sorry) http://vincentrioux.net/projets/arn/index.html it's a bit of a pain to compile tkzinc on osx though (but

Re: [PD] PD-extended 0.40-3 : error when sending "blob" message to inlet

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, indeed this is strange behavior. The string/blob stuff is in need of an update, but its not very clear how to handle it. So examples like this are useful for outlining the problems. .hc On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote: > strange behaviour, isn't it ? > when I sen

Re: [PD] iem_bin_ambi on OSX ... missing objects

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
e deleflie wrote: Hi IOhannes, These objects that I cant create come from patches within the WindowsXP distribution that I found here: http://iem.at/Members/noisternig/bin_ambi It's the only example documentation that I can find for how to use the complex iem_bin_ambi and iem_ambi objects. The

Re: [PD] Why I don't like the new automagic

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think there is a ton of potential to the ideas in desiredata and things like the new editing tricks in pd-vanilla 0.42. But they also have the large potential to cause harm to peoples' workflow. I hope that this experience doesn't scare people off from experimenting with ideas for impr

Re: [PD] comport object

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its included in Pd-extended but I think it is in 'extra/flatspace' .hc On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:47 PM, mbutubuntu wrote: > My IEM libs are: > > iem_mp3 > iem_t3_lib > iemabs > iemlib1 > iemlib2 > > but it seems the comport object doesn't exist... :-( > > > eva sjuve wrote: >> It should be in exter

Re: [PD] iem_bin_ambi on OSX ... missing objects

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
e deleflie wrote: [parent1022] [parent1027] [parent1034] ... are these some kind of dynamic object? no, this comes from [parentdollarzero] (iemlib2). iemlib2 is not in the OSX version of Pd-Extended should it be? ... do I need to compile? ah ... I just found out that [parentdollarzero] w

Re: [PD] comport object

2009-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
mbutubuntu wrote: My IEM libs are: iem_mp3 iem_t3_lib iemabs iemlib1 iemlib2 but it seems the comport object doesn't exist... :-( neither of your IEMlibs is externals\iem\comport\comport, is it? comport is a standalone external not contained in any "iemlib". it was just originally written

Re: [PD] max for live

2009-01-28 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think hacking tkzinc for Pd is still very much wide open. I say go for it, try it out, and report any experience you might have. .hc On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:52 AM, harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote: > hi list, > > is somebody still aware of this. i mean like having it on the agenda/ > taking care