Re: [PD] Loading order of pd objects

2009-02-25 Thread Jaime Oliver
hi all, What I do when I have abstractions that I can't predict how they will be patched in the future and order is important, is to have the loading order as an argument for abstractions at loading time and connect that variable to a del, so that I have del 1, del 2, del 3, etc. In fixed patches

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Martin Schied wrote: I often used message boxes for list splitting in my current project because they were the fastest solution I could find using a benchmark of [t b b b] and [realtime]. I just made an alternate version of [list-drip-quick] that is faster than [list-dri

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I think that its biggest practical downside might be that's it slower on very small lists, but that's all. That's not true. It's actually faster. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383

Re: [PD] Workarounds for number truncation >6 digits?

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> I forgot to add, ideally we could fix the GUI stripping things down >> to 6 digits. Anyone have teh documentation on this issue? I >> looked around but couldn't find it. I think I

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Martin Schied
hey, I like that approach... I often used message boxes for list splitting in my current project because they were the fastest solution I could find using a benchmark of [t b b b] and [realtime]. Is there some obvious disadvantage I'm missing? Are messages one of the fastest "objects" in pd?

Re: [PD] phase-canceling

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, yohannes wrote: Mathieu Bouchard schrieb: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: multiply the mic signal by -1 using [*~ -1], then add it back to the original signal using [+~] Or multiply by 0. :) Then just don't conn

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Nothing really, but I still want to understand it. I added some comments in the attached version that describe how far I got with understanding. Am I completely off? Maybe. There is nothing that the code does on specifically the first two elements

Re: [PD] Workarounds for number truncation >6 digits?

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I forgot to add, ideally we could fix the GUI stripping things down to 6 digits. Anyone have teh documentation on this issue? I looked around but couldn't find it. I think IOhannes outlined it at one point. It's hidden deep inside. You'd t

Re: [PD] Loading order of pd objects

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Gründler
the problem i'm facing is the following: i'm trying to write an extension to pd which allows people to create custom gui objects that can communicate with the underlying pd patch. So far i've a prototype where i use Gtk+ for the gui, and the communication works fine so far. But that's where the

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Enrique Erne wrote: > wow these project are really nice. > > i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is > s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know > how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext. > http:

Re: [PD] Loading order of pd objects

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Robert Gr?ndler hat gesagt: // Robert Gr?ndler wrote: > >> For example when i create a patch with 2 objects that are not >> connected >> in any way, >> in which order will they be created by pd when the patch is loaded ? > > The ord

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Enrique Erne
wow these project are really nice. i hope deeply PdLib would make it with or without soc. imo that is s missing in pd-extended. i'd love to help but i don't even know how to help to get the help-files in running in pd-ext. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/PdLib/ LibPd would be also a

Re: [PD] Loading order of pd objects

2009-02-25 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Robert Gr?ndler hat gesagt: // Robert Gr?ndler wrote: > For example when i create a patch with 2 objects that are not connected > in any way, > in which order will they be created by pd when the patch is loaded ? The order you created them, but it's very bad practice to rely on that, beca

[PD] Loading order of pd objects

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Gründler
Hi, could anyone with some internal knowledge of pd give me a hint in which order pd objects are created when loading a patch ? For example when i create a patch with 2 objects that are not connected in any way, in which order will they be created by pd when the patch is loaded ? Thanks! -rob

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > >Anyway: Would it be okay to use it in [list]-abs which has Pd's BSD > >license? > > Yes. Wonderful! I'll include it. > >But now I'll have to digest the algorithm ... > > Well, you

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Anyway: Would it be okay to use it in [list]-abs which has Pd's BSD license? Yes. But now I'll have to digest the algorithm ... Well, you don't _have_ to... you could first swallow the algorithm, and postpone the digestion to whenever you're rea

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Enrique Erne wrote: ... and i thought my list-drip-custom would win :( could somebody explain how it exaclty works? well, first, the right-inlet of [list] makes a copy of your list, so this makes it take a lot more time when cutting lists into pieces. second, the left-i

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Hans, list ! > Google is doing summer of code again, this time we have the knowledge > and an app so that we can get chosen again. Here's the site: > > http://code.google.com/soc/ > > Here's our app from last year: > > http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ Nice - I quickly looked t

[PD] Google Summer of Code 2009!

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, Google is doing summer of code again, this time we have the knowledge and an app so that we can get chosen again. Here's the site: http://code.google.com/soc/ Here's our app from last year: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/ The first question to answer is: are all of the mentor

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Sounds very cool. Just out of curiosty, how did you measure the speed difference? That would be a useful technic to know about for testing in general. I use [t b a b] with [realtime], similar to enrique's, but i pass a float around for dec

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo Mathieu, wow, cool. But now I'll have to digest the algorithm ... Anyway: Would it be okay to use it in [list]-abs which has Pd's BSD license? Ciao -- Frank Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > seems like it would fit better on this mailing-list. > > -- Fo

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Enrique Erne
hi Mathieu nice abstraciton... ... and i thought my list-drip-custom would win :( could somebody explain how it exaclty works? what license do you publish your code when you post code on the pd-list? same as puredata? thanks eni Mathieu Bouchard wrote: seems like it would fit better

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Enrique Erne
hi hc i allway use a [t b b b] X [realtime] and connect the 2nd bang of the trigger to the operation that i want to measure. for measuring this operation multiple times you can add a [100( | [until] after the 2nd bang eni Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Sounds very cool. Just out of cu

Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux

2009-02-25 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
pdp_live~/pdp_mp4live~ are abandonned and are based on very old versions of ffmpeg and mpeg4ip, which are not in use anymore... the code stays here for historical reasons, and you can compile them using --with-ffmpeg and --with-mpeg4ip respectively.. the way now to do streaming is to do ogg/theor

Re: [PD] Workarounds for number truncation >6 digits?

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I forgot to add, ideally we could fix the GUI stripping things down to 6 digits. Anyone have teh documentation on this issue? I looked around but couldn't find it. I think IOhannes outlined it at one point. .hc On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Florian Hollerweger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm picking

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds very cool. Just out of curiosty, how did you measure the speed difference? That would be a useful technic to know about for testing in general. .hc On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > seems like it would fit better on this mailing-list. > > -- Forward

[PD] [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] (fwd)

2009-02-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
seems like it would fit better on this mailing-list. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:38:27 -0500 (EST) From: Mathieu Bouchard To: Frank Barknecht Cc: pd-...@iem.at Subject: [PD-dev] extremely fast pure pd [list-drip] On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote

Re: [PD] Workarounds for number truncation >6 digits?

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I did a similar thing with UNIX time in the past, I think I separated the number into something like "days" and "seconds". .hc On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Florian Hollerweger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm picking up a thread here from November last year: As IOhannes has > pointed out at > http://list

[PD] adding SSSAD key creation argument after creating and changing an abstraction

2009-02-25 Thread hard off
i have some GOP abstractions which use the sssad system for state saving, so they need a creation argument to set their 'key' for sssad to identify them. as so often happens, i load up a bunch of these abstractions and start playing around with their sliders until it sounds good, and i decide to s

Re: [PD] bug report about pow~ creation argument

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just add a comment to the bug. .hc On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Hi, > Is there a way to edit the entry on the bug tracker about [pow~] > to include [log~] and [exp~]? It's the same problem about the > creation arguments not being recognized. > > Thanks, > Jonat

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Give this >> one a test and see how it works: >> >> http://bxmc.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.41.4-extended-20090225.exe >> >> .hc >> >> >> >> >> Man has survived hit

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
ended, hopefully >> soon, there will also be nightly builds for Windows again. Give this >> one a test and see how it works: >> >> http://bxmc.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.41.4-extended-20090225.exe >> >> .hc >> >> >> ---

Re: [PD] streaming audio and video in Linux

2009-02-25 Thread mark edward grimm
>* also in pdp/pidip there's some other's > pdp_mp4live~ etc. I suspect > the ffserver-based ones don't work in pd-extended. there was also "pdp_live~" that i was looking into the other day but pd couldn't create in either linux nor osx.  i was looking to do the opposite: get a live s

[PD] bug report about pow~ creation argument

2009-02-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, Is there a way to edit the entry on the bug tracker about [pow~] to include [log~] and [exp~]? It's the same problem about the creation arguments not being recognized. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build

2009-02-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
t; I got a Windows machine to build the latest Pd-extended, > hopefully > soon, there will also be nightly builds for Windows again. > Give this > one a test and see how it works: > > http://bxmc.po

Re: [PD] Array that scrolls from right to left

2009-02-25 Thread Sebastien Lelong
Hi guys, Thanks for all your suggestions and explanations ([trigger], [;semicolon message( acting a senders, dollars init variables vs. other dollar variables, the magic of $0, ...). Since I'll probably put a lot of scrolling graphs in my app, I think I'll go with the initialization argument solut

[PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build

2009-02-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I got a Windows machine to build the latest Pd-extended, hopefully soon, there will also be nightly builds for Windows again. Give this one a test and see how it works: http://bxmc.poly.edu/pdlab/Pd-0.41.4-extended-20090225.exe .hc

Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.

2009-02-25 Thread Simon Wise
this missed the rest of the list, the link is useful .. Original Message Your a legend :) for anyone else who may want this I got the X11 update here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10464 having installed that GEM now works for me. brilliant back to trying to understand