[PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send

2009-03-21 Thread Matt Barber
> Here's my proposal: horizontal connections should only be used when the upper > object has only one outlet, and the lower object has only one inlet.   > Otherwise there will be always be ambiguity. > > With your example of all outlets pointing to the same inlet, there is still > ambiguity as to

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Frank Barknecht wrote: > From: Frank Barknecht > Subject: Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off] > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:37 AM > Hallo, > Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > I agree. I also like the use of l

[PD] multiple sound cards on XP?

2009-03-21 Thread John Harrison
Is there a way to get Pd to use multiple sound cards on XP? I've had no problem doing this in Linux, but in XP on both Pd vanilla 0.42-4and Pd-extended 0.40.3-extended-20080721, trying to configure MMIO with multiple cards is giving me: Terminal Window: waveInOpen: The specified format is not sup

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > I agree. I also like the use of list in that patch to store parameters. > > So if you wanted to set parameters with creation arguments, would it just be > a matter of using $1...$5 in the [list]s and (un)[pack]? Yes, almost. [list]

[PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Martin, Here's my proposal: horizontal connections should only be used when the upper object has only one outlet, and the lower object has only one inlet. Otherwise there will be always be ambiguity. With your example of all outlets pointing to the same inlet, there is still ambiguity as

[PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Martin, Here's my proposal: horizontal connections should only be used when the upper object has only one outlet, and the lower object has only one inlet. Otherwise there will be always be ambiguity. With your example of all outlets pointing to the same inlet, there is still ambiguity as

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-21 Thread Martin Peach
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Martin Peach hat gesagt: // Martin Peach wrote: It's a fun exercise for some kinds of mind to make all the non-vertical lines either horizontal or 45 degrees, as in the attached screen grab. Ha, yeah, that's really cute! Unfortunatly I clashes with another pers

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 21, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Matt Barber wrote: Ah, ok, I get it, the text in the msg boxes is basically the same as the text in the qlist file. That makes sense, and in the context of [qlist] I think it makes sense to teach about [; foo( sends. But I don't think that [qlist] is an essen

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I agree. I also like the use of list in that patch to store parameters. So if you wanted to set parameters with creation arguments, would it just be a matter of using $1...$5 in the [list]s and (un)[pack]? -Jonathan --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > From: Kyle Klipowicz > Subjec

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Martin Peach hat gesagt: // Martin Peach wrote: > It's a fun exercise for some kinds of mind to make all the non-vertical > lines either horizontal or 45 degrees, as in the attached screen grab. Ha, yeah, that's really cute! Unfortunatly I clashes with another personal preference I have

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: > >> For example I'd rather start with making people properly left-align >> their patches and avoid crossing patch cords > > well, I do my best to reduce the number of crossings, but if I

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread patrick
hi, in pdmtl abstractions there's [count.up&down]: http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions video showing how to install it: http://www.vimeo.com/psc pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.in

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Husk 00 hat gesagt: // Husk 00 wrote: > Thank you all, but I expressed bad my necessity. I found a solution but > still don't like it. I find inelgant and too much complex for what it has to > do. I need a counter with two bang, first one for add one unit to the > counter, second one for su

[PD] OSC controlled audio file player

2009-03-21 Thread alvaro
Hi all, I just spawned a rather bombastic project, called OSCPlayer. The complete description is on http://puredata.info/Members/alvarito/OSCPlayer Here's the short version: = During the Radio1:1 (htp://www.radioeinszueins.de) experiment, Berlin, June to August 2006, our team deci

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Check out the attached patch, more what you're looking for? -Ben Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:59:26 +0100 From: Husk 00 Subject: Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight To: pd list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you all, but I

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread Steffen Juul
To cut a longer story short: - No i don't want everyone to live there life linearly. How could that at all be assumed. (I rather embrace the opposite.) - The Pd tutorials that Miller ship with Pd is bottom-up. That is the didactic contract with the reader. So if you want a canvas'ified-gui-

[PD] A patch to share

2009-03-21 Thread Pall Thayer
I was going through some old stuff on my computer and found this patch I made a few years ago for a project called Autodrawn. The piece used to run on my server but due to my laziness in updating or even upgrading my server it's no longer running. However, the PD patch that goes with the wo

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread husk
Jack escribió: Hoping it will help you in the building of your counter. ++ Jack The B example is perfect! thank you Jack cheers Husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Nice. As a side note, the ADSR variations patch of Frank's show very clearly how to use [vline~] correctly: $1=lvl, $2=attack time, $3=decay time, $4=sustain level. Go to $1 over $2 msec, go to $4 over $3 msec Could use that in the vline~ help patch! ~Kyle On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Frank

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread Jack
Hoping it will help you in the building of your counter.++Jack counter.pd Description: Binary data Le 21 mars 09 à 14:59, Husk 00 a écrit :Thank you all, but I expressed bad my necessity. I found a solution but still don't like it. I find inelgant and too much complex for what it has to do. I need

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I took Modern Algebra as my first course in "Higher Math." Big mistake. Learning to do proofs this way is a big headache, especially if you have a curmudgeonly teacher! ~Kyle On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Steffen Juul wrote: > >> Unveiled mysterie

[PD] Qeve - free your visualz!

2009-03-21 Thread Husk 00
I list, i would like to share with you all my last work with PD. It is a Vj like App, developed by me and others this last year, with economic support of Catalan videomaker associacion Telenoika (telenoika.net) and Hangar - centre de producciò de arts visuals (www.hangar.org) support. IT's called

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Steffen Juul wrote: Unveiled mysteries are indeed good, yes, we could almost define it as learning. But did you learn Modern Algebra before Linear Algebra? What I recall is that the first course of Modern Algebra (Group Theory) didn't really use much of anything from Linea

Re: [PD] a simple counter, I'm not able to do it tonight

2009-03-21 Thread Husk 00
Thank you all, but I expressed bad my necessity. I found a solution but still don't like it. I find inelgant and too much complex for what it has to do. I need a counter with two bang, first one for add one unit to the counter, second one for subtract one unit. Couter must have min and max limits,

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:07 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 21/03/2009, at 3.44, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: but myteries unveiled are good for learning. so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteri

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 21/03/2009, at 3.44, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >>> >>> but myteries unveiled are good for learning. >>> so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteries used. > > Unveiled mysteries are indee

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > (For a strange reason my Iceweaselfirefox doesn't show the images for > that article. My iPhone does, so they must be there. Can you see the > images?) Never mind: Ad(sr)-blocking gone wrong... Ciao -- Frank __

Re: [PD] sigmund~ env output

2009-03-21 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
Hmm - there shouldn't be any difference between sigmund~'s env output and that of env~. What latform are you on? Perhaps I should check this out. This is on the winXP version. thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-m

[PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Ok, I'd like to propose a "patch-off." > > What's the cleanest, clearest way to present adsr.pd from the audio tutorials? > > I choose this patch because there are lots of crossed wires, plus one has to > leave space for the explana

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-21 Thread Steffen Juul
On 21/03/2009, at 3.44, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: but myteries unveiled are good for learning. so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteries used. Unveiled mysteries are indeed good, yes, we could almost define it as