Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain libraries > will be there, and they will be a certain version. For example > Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3. So you can say "my patch works > with Pd-extended 0.

[PD] [PD-announce] Cours du soir Pure Data en région parisienne (Mains d'Oeuvres à Saint-Ouen)

2010-09-16 Thread Jack
In french only... Bonjour, il reste quelques places pour participer aux cours du soir sur Pure Data, lesquels auront lieu à partir du 28 septembre à Mains d'Oeuvres (Saint-Ouen). Toutes les infos sont ici : http://www.mainsdoeuvres.org/article1019.html N'hésitez pas à faire circuler l'info si vous

Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

2010-09-16 Thread João Pais
that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't want to say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda really. or anyone has something that he wants to show? I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures, and the others listen (which

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Ed Kelly
I think we need to address this. Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to read metadata or markers from a wav or aif file in PD. I am particularly interested in markers, since this would allow the preparation of sample-accurate loop lengths, or chop-points for beats etc in another package befo

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Ed Kelly
Perhaps for those of us who already know our way around the unix filesystem and PD libraries, we could just sudo cp -r /usr/lib/pd/extra/* /path/to/pdextended ...or perhaps just add /usr/lib/pd/extra to the startup path. I think if one knows how to compile an extern it's probably a safe bet tha

Re: [PD] [#spigot]

2010-09-16 Thread patko
Hello, since I'm trying to deal with vanilla on vista, (still same problem about pd.dll, need to figure out how to compile with MSVC, because it's not possible with mingw, without a lot of changes, see topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37389.html), I can't try out gridf

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Lorenzo
Ed Kelly wrote: I think we need to address this. Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to read metadata or markers from a wav or aif file in PD. This is an interesting topic. I am particularly interested in markers, since this would allow the preparation of sample-accurate loop lengths, or cho

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Paulo Casaes
In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] which gives yout he number of channels, sampling rate, size and other info. Does that help? Paulo On 16/09/2010 02:41, ronni montoya wrote: Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd? thanks in advace R. __

Re: [PD] q: [iem_image]

2010-09-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote: I'm reading the help file for the [iem_image] object and I see a way to change the position of a hosted gif (using 'delta' and 'pos') but no way to change its size I do see that you can see the size of a file is there a command to set the size of a gif w

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain libraries will be there, and they will be a certain version. For example Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3. S

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better. wavinfo is still somewhat buggy. But yeah, we should have something to read WAV markers and all of the metadata. .hc On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote: In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] whic

Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You could encourage people to post on this list with ideas that they want to talk about. .hc On Sep 16, 2010, at 7:24 AM, João Pais wrote: that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't want to say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda really. or a

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Paulo Casaes
It has been my experience with PD-Extended 0.41.4 that wavinfo does not work on windows. How does soundfile_info work better with these updates? Paulo On 16/09/2010 11:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better. wavinfo is still somewhat

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Well, for me it actually works on all the .wav files I tried, where before it failed often. .hc On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote: It has been my experience with PD-Extended 0.41.4 that wavinfo does not work on windows. How does soundfile_info work better with these updat

Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

2010-09-16 Thread João Pais
You could encourage people to post on this list with ideas that they want to talk about. a way to organise that is in the wiki of the meetings, http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group/. that's a better place for that, as there is no list dialog on this gr

Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

2010-09-16 Thread Michal Seta
Hmmm... I run across this thread when searching for information about [mtx_*~]. If I load iemmatrix and I instantiate [matrix~] it tells me that it is deprecated and please replace by [mtx_*~]. Which is fine until I save, quit Pd and reopen the patch after which [mtx_*~] is no longer available

Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

2010-09-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote: I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures, and the others listen (which is suggested by having a "fixed" program). The pdmtl#36 meeting yesterday was an example of a meeting with a "fixed" programme, that turned out to be qui

Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

2010-09-16 Thread Michal Seta
I also run across another thread http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37440.html which states that [mtx_mul~] has been deprecated. Yet, deprecated objects are needed to be able to instantiate their replacements. What gives? On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Michal Seta wrote: > Hmmm...

Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

2010-09-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-16 16:53, Michal Seta wrote: > [mtx_mul~] and it seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~]. Yet, [mtx_*~] > alone is impossible to use. The rationale of this feature escapes me. in pd-extended, iemmatrix is somewhat broken (which is not iemmatrix's fault but the way how pd-extended likes l

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 09:58 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain > >> libraries > >> will be there, and the

Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

2010-09-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Michal Seta wrote: Following the advice given in this thread I created a [mtx_mul~] and it seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~]. Yet, [mtx_*~] alone is impossible to use. The rationale of this feature escapes me. It depends on the build. Roman has been making fixes to p

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 09:58 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain

Re: [PD] q: [iem_image]

2010-09-16 Thread Kim Cascone
as always, thank you for your invaluable information! :) perfect! Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote: I'm reading the help file for the [iem_image] object and I see a way to change the position of a hosted gif (using 'delta' and 'pos') but no way to change its size

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, with a couple of minor changes from rc6, the release is up! Now I just to sort out the details and write up the announcement. http://puredata.info/downloads .hc "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Dan Wilcox
Yea! Go Hans, go Hans. On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Ok, with a couple of minor changes from rc6, the release is up! Now I just > to sort out the details and write up the announcement. > > http://puredata.info/downloads > > .hc Dan Wilcox danomatika

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks! I always forget that it takes me a full day to iron out all the details of posting a release... almost done. .hc On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Yea! Go Hans, go Hans. On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, with a couple of minor changes

[PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a huge spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almost 3,000 in one day. Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day? http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/ti

Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

2010-09-16 Thread Derek Holzer
Suggestion: decide the agenda for the next meeting at the meetings themselves, and have people volunteer to present things. Maybe too North American or Northern European a style? ;-) Nobody says you should volunteer yourself, but also I think people come when they have an idea of the program a

Re: [PD] metadata in pd

2010-09-16 Thread Ed Kelly
> Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better. wavinfo is > still >somewhat buggy. But yeah, we should have something to read WAV markers > and >all of the metadata. Very glad to hear it! Ed ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing li

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Ludwig Maes
interesting indeed, somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ... On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a huge > spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almo

[PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I posted the released packages to the apt repository apt.puredata.info. I'd appreciate if people let me know whether it works for them. On Debian and Ubuntu, its probably the easiest way to upgrade to Pd-extended 0.42.5: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian .hc

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

2010-09-16 Thread Pedro Lopes
Okay, just upgraded on Ubuntu 9.10, via synaptic. All seems fine, tested a couple of my patches. Nice work! p.s.: the toggle console was a new feature hans? I don't remember to see that there :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > So I posted the released package

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread András Murányi
hm! couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and visitors from germany... http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09 http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Pedro Lopes
> from about 300 a day to almost 3,000 in one day The more, the merrier :) -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> htt

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 16, 2010, at 7:42 PM, jm jones wrote: 2010/9/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner : So I posted the released packages to the apt repository apt.puredata.info. I'd appreciate if people let me know whether it works for them. On Debian and Ubuntu, its probably the easiest way to upgrade to Pd-

Re: [PD] MIDI connection graph at each beat?

2010-09-16 Thread András Murányi
thanks for the advice. the symptom has disappeared (which is all i was wishing for), but if it ever returns, i'll do a checkup Andras 2010/9/13 Pedro Lopes > Does it bounce with any MIDI app or just pd? > > Try rosegarden for instance. > > 2010/9/13 András Murányi > >> 2010/9/5 András Murányi

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It actually seems to be Linux users from Germany, if you look at the right hand column: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09 .hc On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:38 PM, András Murányi wrote: hm! couldn't find an originating

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread András Murányi
Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who were using linux and downloaded extended for windows. sounds like a robot went berserk (i mean, a script or something). Andras 2010/9/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner > > It a

[PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle this Sunday 9/19, 3-8pm

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its that time again, time for a little Pd/Max patching. We are following up on previous Pd/Android work with an 0.1 release. So bring your Android phones and we'll have Pd apps ready for installing. We've tested on the G1, Droid, Nexus One, and Droid Incredible, but we are looking for

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Pedro Lopes
Is it the same IP? Is it possible for to check? unless it was a complex script, it would appear as the same ip. 2010/9/17 András Murányi > Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe > So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who were > using linux and downl

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, >>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded. so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? ) do you expect any of these to be great creators??? we'll see hey sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] [#spigot]

2010-09-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, patko wrote: Hello, since I'm trying to deal with vanilla on vista, (still same problem about pd.dll, need to figure out how to compile with MSVC, because it's not possible with mingw, without a lot of changes, see topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37389

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Dan Wilcox
Hoho, throwing down the gauntlet as usual. :D On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: > ola, > > >>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded. > > so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? ) > do you expect any of these to be great creators??

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.42.5 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Its done and available for download! With this release, we focused on fixing lots of bugs with the GUI and Graph-On-Parent. There are still some odd things of course, but we have rewritten the GUI from scratch for 0.43 so we wanted to make su

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
it's just being realistic how many windows users will really use pd? or just make a lame download? Dan Wilcox wrote: Hoho, throwing down the gauntlet as usual. :D On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, >>> The Windows package is still the m

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

2010-09-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 06:57:39PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could > install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it. Doesn't Pd-extended also look somewhere in $HOME? What if a user installs Gem there? Ciao --

Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

2010-09-16 Thread Lorenzo
Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who were using linux and downloaded extended for windows. sounds like a robot went berserk (i mean, a script or something). Andras But then does this actually report t