[PD] HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread joe higham
Hi Billy Liked you piece of music that I came by via Pd-lists emails, great stuff. I'm interested to know if it's a piece that you just press the play button and it's the same each time of is it an interactive piece that changes with each version - i.e. you actually play it? All the bestJoe (

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
Thanks for the compliments. I posted a link to the patch with the worst instructions ever wrote. Billy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
When I tried JUCE on windows it was slow. pretty but slow. Same with pdlork on linux. I tried the latest autobuild of extended as well as the 0.43 vanilla from sourceforge. both installed fine withh Ubuntu software center. they both kept freezing though sometimes it was a toggle tat would freeze

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-12 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/11/12 23:19, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-11 à 21:25:00, Max a écrit : we looked into the private accommodation option as well but decided against it because the convention took place during the summer break and parallel to the bauhaus-summer school. the summer school did pay for pe

[PD] dynamic creation of pack crashes pd

2012-02-12 Thread brandt
since i did not find anything about by googling, i wanted to ask, if anybody has experiences with the dynamic creation of pack and the crashing of pd. if i creat a pack by hand with 32 inlets, it works. it i do it dynamicly it crashes pd win7 64 pd extended 0.42.5-extended winXP pd 0.41.4-ex

Re: [PD] dynamic creation of pack crashes pd

2012-02-12 Thread brandt
this happens, if you create more than 10 inlets hmmm... Zitat von bra...@subnet.at: since i did not find anything about by googling, i wanted to ask, if anybody has experiences with the dynamic creation of pack and the crashing of pd. if i creat a pack by hand with 32 inlets, it works.

Re: [PD] dynamic creation of pack crashes pd

2012-02-12 Thread tim vets
2012/2/12 > this happens, if you create more than 10 inlets > > hmmm... > > > not really an asnwer, but I tested it here with pd-extended 0.43.1 on Ubuntu 11.10, [pack] with 64 inlets, no problems. (see testpatch in attachment) gr, Tim > Zitat von bra...@subnet.at: > > > since i did not find a

Re: [PD] dynamic creation of pack crashes pd

2012-02-12 Thread brandt
sorry...it is NOT true...forget about it Zitat von bra...@subnet.at: this happens, if you create more than 10 inlets hmmm... Zitat von bra...@subnet.at: since i did not find anything about by googling, i wanted to ask, if anybody has experiences with the dynamic creation of pack and

Re: [PD] dynamic creation of pack crashes pd

2012-02-12 Thread tim vets
and maybe you can use [repack ] (zexy) instead? 2012/2/12 tim vets > > > 2012/2/12 > > this happens, if you create more than 10 inlets >> >> hmmm... >> >> >> not really an asnwer, but I tested it here with pd-extended 0.43.1 on > Ubuntu 11.10, [pack] with 64 inlets, no problems. > (see testpatc

Re: [PD] backtrace() for MinGW (and Android)

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-12 à 06:06:00, Patrice Colet a écrit : > >> Thanks a lot! >> Ivica, what about using this for backtrace? >> http://code.google.com/p/backtrace-mingw/ > > Does anyone have such a thing for Android ? > > I found something similar

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Have you tried any Pd-extended 0.43 builds in the past week or two? There have been some key bug fixes recently. As for trying a .deb without installing, you can extract the .deb and run it in place, something like: mkdir /tmp/pd-extended dpkg -x pd-extended.deb /tmp/pd-extended cd /tmp/pd-ext

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 11:31:00, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : a thought from a participant (and i guess that i'm among those raising the average age): while i very much enjoyed staying in private accomodation in mtl, i think it is even nicer for the participants to "team up" and live together (whethe

Re: [PD] backtrace() for MinGW (and Android)

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 10:41:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Does anyone have such a thing for Android ? I found something similar, except it doesn't work inside a signal handler, so, unlike any other Linux OS, I can't get backtrace() to give

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-12 à 11:31:00, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > >> a thought from a participant (and i guess that i'm among those raising the >> average age): while i very much enjoyed staying in private accomodation in >> mtl, i think it is eve

Re: [PD] backtrace() for MinGW (and Android)

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-12 à 10:41:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >>> Does anyone have such a thing for Android ? >>> I found something similar, except it doesn't work inside a signal handler

Re: [PD] backtrace() for MinGW (and Android)

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 11:10:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Its not the same thing, but the 'log' library allows you to log all kinds of messages to the logcat, which you can watch live in the DDMS view in Eclipse. I'm already using logcat. Indeed, it's not the same thing at all. ___

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Peach
I added some bug fixes to pdlua a week ago but they haven't appeared in the nightly builds yet. Is sourceforge svn still the right place? Martin On 2012-02-12 10:45, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Have you tried any Pd-extended 0.43 builds in the past week or two? There have been some key bug

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-12 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/12/12 17:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's my memory of it too. Plus that place was tomb-silent, I felt already bad enough coming into a nunnery at 3am after drinking ;) so it turns out after years, that i didn't miss so much after all...cool :-) fgmadsr IOhannes

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, still the right place. There was a bug in the svn update script, I just fixed it, so the updates should again automatically be included. .hc On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Martin Peach wrote: > I added some bug fixes to pdlua a week ago but they haven't appeared in the > nightly builds ye

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
Thanks for the info Hans. Ill try that out. With the version I have now has pd-gui. Where the latest puredata and pd-extende used wish instead. I think the problems were with wish probably because it was jumpin around in the process list like crazy. The pd extended was the latest autobuild, I tri

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Thanks a lot! > > Ivica, what about using this for backtrace? > > http://code.google.com/p/backtrace-mingw/ It is not necessary. It is a matter of making sure you use proper build system. The current code should build just fine on Windows (although I never tried it) as its build system is ba

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 17:18:00, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : On 02/12/12 17:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's my memory of it too. Plus that place was tomb-silent, I felt already bad enough coming into a nunnery at 3am after drinking ;) so it turns out after years, that i didn't miss so much

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 12:22:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : (but is also behind in terms of code-cleanliness). Do you mean something else than sprinkling colon-colon namespacing all over the source and splitting it over N files ? ___

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Yeah, no doubt that disis-wiimote has been well tested. I'm just > highlighting different cases. I know a couple projects that needed 6 > wiimotes connected to 1 computer, where I think L2Ork does one > wiimote per computer. Now, it would be good to rely on a single object > to handle all case

[PD] raw data in sys_gui (was: GUI and DSP)

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-10 à 21:16:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If Tcl had fast base64 support (like Perl/Ruby), the difference would be even bigger. And it would bigger with the ability to send binary data (which can't happen now because "}" count

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: >> Thanks a lot! >> >> Ivica, what about using this for backtrace? >> >> http://code.google.com/p/backtrace-mingw/ > > It is not necessary. It is a matter of making sure you use proper build > system. The current code should build just fin

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Well, yes, I have them, but it's not very relevant, as I already know that > those changes make Pd really worse in too many cases. > > The interface common to all item-types has a function to return one > bbox > (bounding-box : x1 y1 x2 y2). It is assumed that the whole bbox has to be > redrawn

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> -Original Message- > From: Mathieu Bouchard [mailto:ma...@artengine.ca] > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:27 PM > To: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Cc: 'Patrice Colet'; 'pd-list' > Subject: RE: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- > feedback appreciated > > Le 2012-02-12 à 12

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > To: 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' > Cc: 'pd-list' > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] wiimote report > >> Yeah, no doubt that disis-wiimote has been well tested.  I'm just >> highlighting different cases.  I know a

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> > From: Billy Stiltner >To: Mathieu Bouchard >Cc: Jonathan Wilkes ; "pd-list@iem.at List" > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:03 AM >Subject: Re: [PD] GUI and DSP > > > >When I tried JUCE on windows it was slow. pretty but slow. Same with pdlork  >on linux.

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> I thought I saw a comment in your code that said it only handled one > controller. > > -Jonathan It's been a while since I edited the source and/or tested more than one wiimote per computer. It may be just a leftover comment. Also, I think this is in part because each wiimote would have its ow

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> -Original Message- > From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf > Of Ivica Ico Bukvic > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:00 PM > To: 'Jonathan Wilkes'; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' > Cc: 'pd-list' > Subject: Re: [PD] wiimote report > > > I thought I saw a comme

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' ; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' > > Cc: 'pd-list' > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:59 PM > Subject: RE: [PD] wiimote report > >> I thought I saw a comment in your code that said it only handled one >> controller.

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' ; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' > > Cc: 'pd-list' > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:27 PM > Subject: RE: [PD] wiimote report > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bo

[PD] second mouse as HID in pd/linux

2012-02-12 Thread James Mckernon
Hi all, Crossposting this to the pure data mailing list and linux audio users as it concerns PD and the linux OS also. I'd like to be able to use a second mouse as an input device for controlling synthesis in Pure Data. (Well, actually, it's a trackball I'd like to use - much more fun, but I beli

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
> Cool.  I guess the other question is this: does the threading stuff in your > class solve > a problem with dropouts that still exists in the other wiimote class?  Can > you put > together a demo patch that would cause dropouts on the old wiimote > class before > you revised it, but which doesn't

Re: [PD] second mouse as HID in pd/linux

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 20:54:00, James Mckernon a écrit : However, I am not aware of a way to connect a second mouse without the operating system treating it the same as the first mouse - i.e., having it control the cursor. I used to know a way to disable the capacitive trackpad of my older laptop,

Re: [PD] wiimote report

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic > To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' ; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' > > Cc: 'pd-list' > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:59 PM > Subject: RE: [PD] wiimote report > >> Cool.  I guess the other question is this: does the threading stuff in your >> clas

[PD] Debian, Pd and Midi

2012-02-12 Thread Nicola Pandini
Hi, I'd like to use Pd for midi processing, and I'm trying to find the flags to have the best "Pd for midi" possible. For me midi latency is an extremely important factor, so all my efforts were in the way to optimize it. I did some experiments, playing with flags and seeing what happens (I use

Re: [PD] roughness & Pitch-Comonality objects (was Re: number to fractions external?)

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 03:59:00, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : | So, btw, where can people download the psprofile externals?   Great Mathieu, I'm finishing the PhD text in the next couple of weeks. then it's time for to get my ass to release these things. what I realized about the pitch-commonalit

Re: [PD] roughness & Pitch-Comonality objects (was Re: number to fractions external?)

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 04:11:00, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : anyway, I'd just like to say that I hope people will enjoy playing around with these objects, specially the pitch-commonality (that you called "psprofile"). All that naming actually comes from you. I may have made some suggestions a

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 03:32:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit : Thanks for the compliments. I posted a link to the patch with the worst instructions ever wrote. Where have you writed it ? __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.38

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: >> Well, yes, I have them, but it's not very relevant, as I already know that >> those changes make Pd really worse in too many cases. >> >> The interface common to all item-types has a function to return one >> bbox >> (bounding-box : x1 y1 x

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
I don't remember its been about a year or so since I ran it. Was the same thing that was slow with the other slow versions of pd I guess. Next time Ifire up the machine it's on I'll try to run it. I remember that max with juce on windows would drop out with the x.fm patch if I played a bunch of

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
- the bpm control is global and works for syncing if u want to chain from a recorder, i use the 2 outers as drums and u dont get no sound till u hit start and select channels and toggle the rests - all 3 equals no rest(markov) if u turn on the room and go in(pd room) hit ctrl e to drag

Re: [PD] Debian, Pd and Midi

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Peach
On 2012-02-12 17:32, Nicola Pandini wrote: Hi, I'd like to use Pd for midi processing, and I'm trying to find the flags to have the best "Pd for midi" possible. For me midi latency is an extremely important factor, so all my efforts were in the way to optimize it. I did some experiments, playing

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Make sure you run the most recent version of pdl2ork when you fire it up next. There have been a lot of speedups since then. -Jonathan > > From: Billy Stiltner >To: Jonathan Wilkes >Cc: pd-list >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:30 PM >Subject: Re: [PD] GU

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
On 02/12/2012 06:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think a lot of this would be alleviated for the most part if not entirely if: 1) pd completely removed redrawing logic from the c code and migrated it into tcl (which is what you may have done in great part already inside desire-data) 2)

[PD] seeking help for -batch option

2012-02-12 Thread patrick
hi, i am creating an acoustic model (in french). i would like to use puredata to double or even triple the amount of data (voice recording) by adding some modification to each soundfile (maybe changing the pitch of the voice, adding a bit of noise etc...). in a directory i have multiple *.wa

Re: [PD] seeking help for -batch option

2012-02-12 Thread Miller Puckette
When I need to do that kind of thing I use the "-send" command line argument to communicate with the patch to tell it which file(s) to open / save to, etc. There are probably many other ways too. cheers Miller On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:57:01PM -0500, patrick wrote: > hi, > > i am creating an

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I suggest since a bunch of you like this piece, and even better, he's posted the patch, one of you should add it to the exhibition page on puredata.info. Its easy, here's how: http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingToTheExhibition .hc On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Dafydd Hughes wrote: > L

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
Do you mean with juce and pd2lork? or just pd2lork? I will try the latest pd2lork the next time I fire up my other machine. I have a really nice model for interactive dynamic objects if you guys are interested. I'm not sure if all the widowing stuff was implemented nor if the version I uploaded wil

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If you think that the freezing that you mentioned is a bug in Pd, please file a bug report: http://bugs.puredata.info .hc On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:56 -0500, Billy Stiltner wrote: > Thanks for the info Hans. Ill try that out. With the version I have > now has pd-gui. Where the latest puredata

[PD] pop-up menu, drop-down select box

2012-02-12 Thread Phil Stone
I can't remember ever seeing add-ons for PD for widgets like pop-up menus or drop-down select boxes. Has anyone done any tcl experimenting in this area? The closest widget I can think of is Sevy's Playlist; as cool as it is, it doesn't have the screen real-estate economy of a pop-up or drop-do

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
Thanks, that is an awesome suggestion.All the videoson my youtube channell that have a burningship fractal for the video were done with this patch and ZynAddSubFx. plus there are lots more without the burningship fractal that were also done with the patch. There are some things included with that

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-12 Thread Billy Stiltner
Hans, it could have very well been some lingering installation that didn't get removed before installing. by the way wish was bouncing around I think it might have had something to do with that. I'll try and install again later and see if I can repeat anything, till then I'll just get the dev pack

Re: [PD] pop-up menu, drop-down select box

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I used my search plugin to search for "gui menu" and found one: tof/pmenu There is also [popup] which looks like it's now in the library "flatgui" (which used to be "flatspace"). -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Phil Stone > To: PD list > Cc: > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012

Re: [PD] pop-up menu, drop-down select box

2012-02-12 Thread Phil Stone
Thank you, Jonathan. [tof/pmenu] does exactly what I need. Phil On 2/12/12 9:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I used my search plugin to search for "gui menu" and found one: tof/pmenu There is also [popup] which looks like it's now in the library "flatgui" (which used to be "flatspace"). -Jo