Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-18 à 21:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason. What Hans has written at the beginning of the announcement is bad and this is why I « make it look bad ».

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43 On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: [...]   Do you

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-20 à 14:28:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : No, I agree that giving a misleading impression should be avoided, but the point (again) is that I still believe I didn't get any wrong impression (probably I'm wrong here?). I must also say I haven't looked at the code itself, but followed

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-20 à 10:36:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Interesting question. I haven't thought about what could help make Pd be taken less or more seriously. Thinking about it, I feel that people often tend to take something seriously for odd reasons, like if

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Scott R. Looney
wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 10:36 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-20 à 12:56:00, Scott R. Looney a écrit : i don't believe i saw HC attempting to claim sole credit for the work he does every day I was only talking about the exaggeration of the difference between pd43 and pd42, and bad wording (or structure of the announcement). I don't say he

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-20 à 14:27:00, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : and adding some tables so that Tk-side code can be more aware of what's going on, such as « canvas finished loading » events (though this part of pd43 is completely different from DesireData's equivalent). I don't know why I mentioned

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43 Le 2012-02-20 à 14:27:00, Mathieu Bouchard

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43 On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: [...] Do you think that it helps making Pd be taken seriously ? Interesting question. I haven't thought about what could help make Pd be taken

[PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come with multiple CPU cores,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Tuti
I just wish that PD keeps the same philosophy of robustness and simplicity as before. Tuti On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Matju On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 11:54 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine and pd-gui is

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : I can only speak for myself, but I didn't read it as Hans would have taken credit for those efforts. Maybe you didn't read it. :-/ If you're interpreting it too much according to what you think Hans want to say, then you might not be paying

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 15:13 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: an 'anti' attitude What's that ? An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason. I think that all recent efforts done in Pd and Pd-extended are great and I haven't had the impression that the wrong people took

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 21:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason. What Hans has written at the beginning of the announcement is bad and this is why I « make it look bad ». I think that all recent efforts done in Pd and Pd-extended are