20101217 snapshot fixes:
*implemented Jonathan Wilkes' patch for select object that allows mixed
arguments (symbols and floats)
*further fixes to the build script
*nlet highlighting should not be brought to front as that causes weird
graphical glitches with to front/back tool
On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I believe he means I split out each objectclass into its own file,
like Java does. That allows us to use namespaces prefixes like
zexy/symbol2list.
There are other ways to introduce
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
There are other ways to introduce namespace prefixes. It can be done rather
easily, in much less work than it takes to handle all the explosions of
libraries, the hexloader, the symlinks and
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I believe he means I split out each objectclass into its own file, like
Java does. That allows us to use namespaces prefixes like
zexy/symbol2list.
There are other ways to introduce namespace prefixes. It can be done
rather easily, in much
On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:15 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get:
sh:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 23:41 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
AFAIK, a2l can be replaced by the vanilla [list].
Then I agree with your decision to drop aliases altogether.
To me this discussion sounds like: Aliases are hard to implement when
using the libdir format (which was not intended by
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:04 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 23:41 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
AFAIK, a2l can be replaced by the vanilla [list].
Then I agree with your decision to drop aliases altogether.
To me this discussion sounds like: Aliases are hard to
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:15 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get:
sh: /usr/bin/pd-gui: not found
And it just waits
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On 2010-12-16 01:20, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
If you look inside the externals/build/src folder you should see
them. (I think they are all from zexy but not absolutely sure.)
Isn't class_addcreator supposed to take care of this?
of what?
of
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:15 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get:
sh: /usr/bin/pd-gui: not found
And it just waits
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
Apologies for cross-posting.
It appears a few more bugs snuck into the stable release. At the same
time I felt like the rest of the iemgui objects could really benefit
from the resizing via gui, hence another release.
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:04 PM
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 23:41 -0500,
Ivica Ico
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:00 PM
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:04 +0100,
Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:15 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get:
sh: /usr/bin/pd-gui: not found
And it just waits
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 19:12 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:15 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork,
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Actually, they are not hard at all. I already tried building the whole
thing with aliases and it boils down to changing a few lines in the
installer. That said, I've reverted it back as I philosophically agree
with Hans. There is no reason for
Apologies for cross-posting...
Another bugfix release is now up. Includes:
*small but important build script fixes
*resolves problem where pd-l2ork executable does not start-up properly
when invoked without path-to-binary
*fixed one stray consistency error
*based on feedback included zexy
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 23:47 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Plus some weirdness:
[s2l] doesn't create.
[symbol2list] does create, after which:
[s2l] creates (?)
-Jonathan
Is vanilla pd-extended not exhibiting this particular problem? Just
checking before digging into code...
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 04:04 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 23:47 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Plus some weirdness:
[s2l] doesn't create.
[symbol2list] does create, after which:
[s2l] creates (?)
-Jonathan
Is vanilla pd-extended not exhibiting this particular
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Can't reproduce over here. Are you running different libs and are they
precompiled for l2ork?
When failing to reproduce a bug that only someone else has, always try
Valgrind, in case the bug is invisible. It doesn't work all of the time
(there
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 02:16 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd
You're simply hiding the bug:
1. With the Properties dialogue open, go back and click somewhere
on the patch to deselect the iemgui. (Btw-- there are times when
this behavior is convienent, so please don't make the Properties
dialogue force focus.)
2. Click Ok.
3. Still crashes.
No
It seems it is not, because it has a copy of
'symbol2list.pd_linux'
renamed to 's2l.pd_linux' in extra/flatspace.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of aliases in externals/build that work
the same way.
Are there any other that exhibit this issue? s2l is missing because
latest svn
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Ok, so I made a list of flatspace objects missing and I keep wondering
if it would not be better to simply do away with all these aliases and
start anew thus encouraging all potential users of pd-l2ork to shed
their redundant aliases in their
Ok, new version is now up that should fix this and other issues in respect to
core pd. I will work on zexy aliases next to offset the loss of flatspace. Now
that I've isolated offending aliases This should be fairly easy.
Cheers!
Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
You're simply hiding the
There is still some work to be done before those can be shed because some of
those externals in their original non-aliased format use inconsistent naming
schemes. Namely some of them use abbreviated format like a2l (or whatever its
name is I cannot remember off top of my head) while others use
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
So I guess what I'm saying is that community needs to decide whether to
keep the long or short versions of those objects and convert the ones
that arent accordingly.
Ah, but who is the community, exactly ?
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
pik...@piksel.no
Date
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:42 PM
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 02:16 -0800,
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Roman Haefeli reduz
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:17 AM
Hi Ivica,
This may just be leftovers from a previous install:
When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine.
When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get:
sh: /usr/bin/pd-gui: not found
And it just waits there until I hit ctrl-c.
Any hints?
-Jonathan
On Dec 15, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
It seems it is not, because it has a copy of
'symbol2list.pd_linux'
renamed to 's2l.pd_linux' in extra/flatspace.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of aliases in externals/build that work
the same way.
Are there any other that exhibit this
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
If you look inside the externals/build/src folder you should see
them. (I think they are all from zexy but not absolutely sure.)
Isn't class_addcreator supposed to take care of this?
class_addcreator can only take care of this if it is run. It is
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:56 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
What does exploded mean?
-Jonathan
Within this context I believe it means partitioned into smaller pieces
(one lib becomes many sub-libs).
HTH
Ico
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On Dec 15, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Sounds good to me. I've made it a habit years ago to not use aliases.
Except it is not consistent that way in respect to zexy lib where
a2l is
default object for any2list whereas list2symbol is written out in
full.
It seems to me
...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:46 AM
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes
wrote:
If you look
AFAIK, a2l can be replaced by the vanilla [list].
Then I agree with your decision to drop aliases altogether.
Perhaps all libs should be looked over for redundant copies and only the
most stable/polished iterations should be left in the final build. Is
there a list of such objects and their
Apologies for cross-posting.
It appears a few more bugs snuck into the stable release. At the same
time I felt like the rest of the iemgui objects could really benefit
from the resizing via gui, hence another release.
20101214 Changelog:
*implemented resizable options for all iemgui objects
segfault:
1. New patch.
2. Create [cnv].
3. Save as test.pd
4. Right-click [cnv] and choose Properties.
5. Click Ok.
Crash.
(Hardy.)
-Jonathan
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: pd-list
Narrowing it down:
segfault only happens if you right-click and choose Properties
_without_ having first selected the object.
-Jonathan
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: pd-list@iem.at
patch.
2. Create [cnv].
3. Save as test.pd
4. Right-click [cnv] and choose Properties.
5. Click Ok.
Crash.
(Hardy.)
-Jonathan
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: pd-list@iem.at
Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
pik...@piksel.no
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:33 AM
Can't
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 21:50 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
For example-- right-click on the top left-hand corner of cnv in run mode
(since you can't select anything in run mode, this will ensure
it's not selected). Then choose Properties.
Now when I click Ok under these circumstances I get
] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org,
pik...@piksel.no
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:33 AM
Can't reproduce over here. Are you
running different libs and are they
precompiled
Plus some weirdness:
[s2l] doesn't create.
[symbol2list] does create, after which:
[s2l] creates (?)
-Jonathan
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i
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