Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 18:16 +0200, Patco wrote: Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 06:59 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Enrique Erne wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: lets assume you want to schedule the next

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
the implementation is quite simple. see attached patch. (though it requires two instances of pd, that are connected somehow over a digital audio connection, e.g jack) roman On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:52 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:40 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri,

[PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, roman wrote: oops, i meant to talk about a solution based on zexy's [time], not on [timer] (typo). however, since there is [realtime], it wouldn't make much sense to use [timer]. you could reach the same with both. following the doc it is clear that there is a big

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 06:59 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Then both of you need to read the helpfile of [timer] and compare it with the one of [realtime]: [timer] works in logical time only. oops, i meant to talk about a solution based on zexy's

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 14:43 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, roman wrote: oops, i meant to talk about a solution based on zexy's [time], not on [timer] (typo). however, since there is [realtime], it wouldn't make much sense to use [timer]. you could reach the same with

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 06:59 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Enrique Erne wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: lets assume you want to schedule the next 'bang' to 43s297ms, but the output of [timer] maybe is '43 296', '43 296', '43 298'. won't be hit

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-24 Thread Patco
Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 06:59 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Enrique Erne wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: lets assume you want to schedule the next 'bang' to 43s297ms, but the output of [timer] maybe is '43

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-24 Thread hard off
i think he means you could reach the same result using [realtime] or zexy's [time] and i would add that you could possibly even get the same using the [timer] object connected to an [einstein-rosen_bridge] external http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-24 Thread Patco
hard off a écrit : i think he means you could reach the same result using [realtime] or zexy's [time] and i would add that you could possibly even get the same using the [timer] object connected to an [einstein-rosen_bridge] external http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

[PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Enrique Erne wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: lets assume you want to schedule the next 'bang' to 43s297ms, but the output of [timer] maybe is '43 296', '43 296', '43 298'. won't be hit at all. then i think, that this approach wouldn't be accurate

[PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Enrique Erne
hi has anybody built a dropout save metro ... say if pd freezes for a while and comes back that the metro would still be in sync with the 'outside' world. that would be very nice in a life situation. some ideas ? do you think it can be done in plain pd? i failed when i tried to measure the

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread chris clepper
I have thought about making a 'real time' metro. One of the features I was considering was what to do if the event happens too late, would the output fire or drop the event? On 6/22/07, Enrique Erne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi has anybody built a dropout save metro ... say if pd freezes for a

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
the problem with timer is, that it only sends an output, when banged. you could bang it with some insane rate using a [metro 1000] and according to the measured (real)time, you send a bang or not. this approach would *might* work, but it has several disadvantages, if i do understand the

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Enrique Erne
if the event(s) happen to late i.e after a dropout i wouldn't want it to trigger anything. but on the other hand: i would anyway use it for a counter... then i wanted it to count further. if it counts from 1 to 4 and misses the 2th event it should go to 3 on the next supposed event to be in

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Enrique Erne hat gesagt: // Enrique Erne wrote: has anybody built a dropout save metro ... say if pd freezes for a while and comes back that the metro would still be in sync with the 'outside' world. that would be very nice in a life situation. some ideas ? do you think it can be

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
one solution, that might would work, came to my mind. you could run two instances of pd, one does only hold a [metro] and has a slightly higher priority than the other instance. the second pd does all the audio stuff and therefore might have some dropouts. now you could send the output of the

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:22 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: one solution, that might would work, came to my mind. you could run two instances of pd, one does only hold a [metro] and has a slightly higher priority than the other instance. the second pd does all the audio stuff and therefore might

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:40 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:22 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: one solution, that might would work, came to my mind. you could run two instances of pd, one does only hold a [metro] and has a slightly higher priority than the other instance.

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Enrique Erne
i think your totally right... too bad. On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: the problem with timer is, that it only sends an output, when banged. you could bang it with some insane rate using a [metro 1000] and according to the measured (real)time, you send a bang or not. this

Re: [PD] dropout save metro

2007-06-22 Thread Enrique Erne
yeah that sounds like nice solution. and a reason to install jack . thank you all. On Jun 22, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:40 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 19:22 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: one solution, that might would work, came to my