On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 19:46 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>
> >
> > I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
>
> That's not marketing lingo. Instead, you would be saying : «
>
> I am sure that it meets your criteria. Net
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
That's not marketing lingo. Instead, you would be saying : «
I am sure that it meets your criteria. NetPd has the features that YOU
need. You are a hard-working composer who valu
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 19:05 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
Thanks for your feedback.
> There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals come
> from, neither at each level it comes.
A VU-meter is very expensive to have in a Pd-window, unfortunately. In
cubase (and similar
t;
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Hi Patko
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patr..
Hi Patko
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd...
> apparently not...
Have you checked mx from netpd?
http://www.netpd.org/Mx
I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are:
-
hmmm, in fact I'm using workstations like ardour, (I don't often use ardour
thought even if I've set a bunch of scripts to configure jackd and pd with it)
since ages for producing
sounds or instruments made with dataflow stuff, I just wanted to check if
someone has invented this wheel in pd...
- if you really know what you want, you'll want to design your own patch
for that, and won't take any other already made programs
- but if you go for it, you'll spend your time programming the mixer,
instead of the project you were thinking of in the first place.
I would guess that unless someone
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, João Pais wrote:
- if you really know what you want, you'll want to design your own patch
for that, and won't take any other already made programs
- but if you go for it, you'll spend your time programming the mixer,
instead of the project you were thinking of in the first
if you need a program to mix tracks in a session, then there's no
point in even thinking of programming something like that in pd, just
use any of the very good programs around.
There is a very simple and oft-overlooked point to reinventing such
programmes inside of pd : it gives you a mixing to
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, João Pais wrote:
if you need a program to mix tracks in a session, then there's no
point in even thinking of programming something like that in pd, just
use any of the very good programs around.
There is a very simple and oft-overlooked point to r
that's of course true. but two details are against it:
- if you really know what you want, you'll want to design your own patch
for that, and won't take any other already made programs
- but if you go for it, you'll spend your time programming the mixer,
instead of the project you were thin
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, João Pais wrote:
if you need a program to mix tracks in a session, then there's no point
in even thinking of programming something like that in pd, just use any
of the very good programs around.
There is a very simple and oft-overlooked point to reinventing such
programm
anyway, whatever I'd say after this, the answer would be that I'm not a
good musician,
or that pd is not made for me,
or even worth, that I don't have a good taste in music, etc...
you're being paranoid. and if someone do, you ask them why, in case it's
worth it.
My conclusion is that
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:28:31 +0300
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>>> So maybe you n
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>> So maybe you need and want a shitty clarinet to achieve the objective
>> you have, maybe you ne
So maybe you need and want a shitty clarinet to achieve the objective
you have, maybe you need a quite expensive one. Nevertheless, the point
is what you do with it.
The clarinetist of one chamber orchestra I've wrote for had to use a 'C'
clarinette that sounded like shit to play all the no
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>
> > without a good media, we
Roman,
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best
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--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
From: Jonathan Wilkes
Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
To: colet.patr...@free.fr, "Ariane stolfi"
Cc: "pd-list" , reduzie...@yahoo.de
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:30 AM
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, A
--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Ariane stolfi
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From: Ariane stolfi
Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS:
Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
To: colet.patr...@free.fr
Cc:
"pd-list" , reduzie...@yahoo.de
Date: Saturday,
April 17, 2010, 1:49 AM
In every field
of art and also in apllied
ise I've found is like obiwannabe's work, where
> the patch is the piece.
>
>
>
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> De: "Mathieu Bouchard"
> À: "Roman Haefeli"
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> Envoyé: Vendredi 16 Avril 2010
ation.
>
> At the end the best compromise I've found is like obiwannabe's work, where
> the patch is the piece.
I guess I'm missing your point here. How does that relate to what you
said above?
Roman
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
"mixing"?
Interesting, I was more concerned by the use of the word « corre
"(sorry to continue this thread)
Matt"
By the way, I am Really sorry too... please forgive me.
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>
>sorry, I might going to be rude,
>
>but I've never heard some music completely made with PureData that really
>sound good.
>From: hard@gmail.com
>
>just uploaded 2 vanilla workouts. these are not tracks. just me jamming in
>the staffroom of the school where i
>without a good media, we can't get good results
Guess my point wasnt clear yet. I'm saying every media has its potential,
there's no "good" or "bad", anything can be best applied for some purpose,
even a "shitty" clarinet... it can produce sounds irregularly and with
spectral content that other c
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Lorenzo wrote:
- Switch to some other greater, uhm.. smother :), software
Wait, what is this thread about :
[A] make Pd smoother
[B] make Pd smother
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Hi,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 02:18:17PM +0200, olsen wrote:
> ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too: in german
> there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der
> badehose"
I didn't know this one, it's very good. As we've started the quoting
business, I recentl
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 12:53 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> >> show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
> > That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
> >
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> On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.f
ed where too limited to impose a structure?
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l Stone wrote:
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Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
To: "PD list"
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:49 PM
In addition to disagreeing vehemently
with your main point (Pd is good for little more than
experimentation), I find this a piss-po
the r2d2 patches and try netpd again, maybe we could do something
with it...
hagwe
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>>> Matteo Sisti Sette a ?crit :
Frank wrote:
> It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music
> sound good.
That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one of
them.
>
> sorry, I might going to be rude,
>
> but I've never heard some musi
just uploaded 2 vanilla workouts. these are not tracks. just me jamming in
the staffroom of the school where i work. not sure if they will change
anyone's mind on anything, but i think they show a bit of dynamic range and
the possibilities offered by vanilla pd and perseverance.
http://soundclou
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 20:23 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> Actual dance floors musics needs a very large handset of tools that also
> require
> best technologies for avoiding sound loss
> and having the sound responding correctly through all sound systems.
Are you implying there was no dan
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:04 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
That interests me. Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean by
"mixing"? Then I'd be also interested in what way Pd fails and how
another software (you name it) succeeds in doing it c
This (rather pointless) discussion is really clogging the list since
ages now, whithout IMHO giving any real suggestion on improvements for
Pd... It started IIRC with someone coming to mailing list about software
A and sayng "hey software B is much better ("smoother", uh?) than A
which sucks"..
>Oh, wasn't the metaphor clear, really?
nope
>well, no problem, here you go then... once more...
there you go
>We don't care to know if someone says; "Hey, I got a clarinet", we wanna know
>what he is doing with it, in a sense that it'd make more sense if the person
>would come and say; "
ej bonitos just pasting some mustard to this topic too:
in german there's a saying "wenn der bauer nicht schwimmern kann liegts an der
badehose"
translated somehow: "when the farmer can't swim it's because of his bathing
trunks"
so it's about swimming not dancing!
crossfading salutis
ø
& don't
show me a patch that correctly mix soundfiles.
Btw- I don't mean "this will be a 'Hello World' for Pd at some future
point in its development." I just mean it's a good way for users to
test how flexible and expressive their software is in a live setting.
I mean let's face it-- you crash at
Oh, wasn't the metaphor clear, really?
well, no problem, here you go then... once more...
We don't care to know if someone says; "Hey, I got a clarinet", we wanna
know what he is doing with it, in a sense that it'd make more sense if the
person would come and say; "Hey, check out, look what I do
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> From: Jonathan Wilkes
> Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> To: "PD list" , "Phil Stone"
> Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:11 AM
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Phil Stone
>
I would care about how the clarinette is sounding, if I or a skilled clarinetist
can't make a melody with it, i would play with noises...
Selon Alexandre Porres :
> > pd is just a tool for learning dsp, there is no such project that show how
> > pd is cool to make people moving on the dance floo
thanks, :)
Selon Rory Walsh :
> Sure and wood is ONLY for burning. I don't mean to be rude either but
> if you think music only qualifies as music if people can dance to it
> then that I think perhaps you should learn a little more about it.
> Until then you can get your rocks off to some pd crea
job to glue all the stuff together in a musical
piece that would sounds as big as we use to hear when we go to dancefloors, or
when we turn on the pop radio.
Selon Jonathan Wilkes :
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/15/10, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
>
> > From: colet.patr...@free.fr
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Phil Stone wrote:
> From: Phil Stone
> Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> To: "PD list"
> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:49 PM
> In addition to disagreeing vehemently
> with your main point (Pd
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 17:53 +0200, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> >> Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
> >>> Frank wrote:
> >>> > It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music
> >>> > sound good.
> >>> That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one of
> >>> them.
>
In addition to disagreeing vehemently with your main point (Pd is good
for little more than experimentation), I find this a piss-poor acid test
for "music that sounds good":
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
there is no such project that show how pd is cool to make people moving on the
dance floor
> pd is just a tool for learning dsp, there is no such project that show how
> pd is cool to make people moving on the dance floor.
Is that what you are really expecting pd to be or sound like? Well, indeed,
I disagree Pd would be a proper tool for that. And you are really wrong to
assume pd is on
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote:
> From: colet.patr...@free.fr
> Subject: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
> To: pd-list@iem.at
> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 5:53 PM
>
> >> Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
> >>> Frank
>> Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
>>> Frank wrote:
>>> > It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music
>>> > sound good.
>>> That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one of
>>> them.
sorry, I might going to be rude,
but I've never heard some music complete
yep,
i've got lot's of work to do on this lib.
but no time.
the help file can work with a minor adjustement so i will not update it now.
cyrille
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
On Mar 28, 2010, at 8:13 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
Frank wrote:
> It's not so m
On Mar 28, 2010, at 8:13 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit :
Frank wrote:
> It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music
> sound good.
That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one
of them.
But there are a lot of tools out there wit
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