[PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-06 Thread Peter Plessas
Dear list, Does Pd run on an iPad? Can one compile externals for it and how is the development situation for the device? Thanks for any pointers! P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinf

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
rjdj is on the ipad, so Pd runs on the iPad. There are two other Pd for iPhoneOS branch projects out there (iJam?), so they should be runnable. If someone wants to take on merging all these iPhoneOS branches I'll help get it into the new libpd/Android branch and vanilla too. .hc On Fri, 2010-08

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread João Pais
but to make patches run, they have to be programmed in vanilla, right? and it's not possible to do reatime control like input numbers, or anything more than the touchpad control? or is it possible to use pd-ext in the iphone or ipod maxi? rjdj is on the ipad, so Pd runs on the iPad. There

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread cyrille henry
i think apple does use a licence that is not compatible with pdX gpl licence, but it is compatible with pd bsd licence. so the problem comes from apple licence. it's not technical, but politics and commercial. c Le 10/08/2010 12:07, João Pais a écrit : but to make patches run, they have to b

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Plessas
On 08/10/2010 12:07 PM, João Pais wrote: > but to make patches run, they have to be programmed in vanilla, right? > and it's not possible to do reatime control like input numbers, or > anything more than the touchpad control? I'd suppose everything that a mouse pointer can do, or is there a way to

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:07:55AM +0100, João Pais wrote: > but to make patches run, they have to be programmed in vanilla, > right? and it's not possible to do reatime control like input > numbers, or anything more than the touchpad control? > > or is it possible to use pd-ext in the iphone

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 8/10/10, Frank Barknecht wrote: > From: Frank Barknecht > Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 12:53 PM > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:07:55AM +0100, João Pais > wrote: > > but to mak

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I suggest getting an Android device, we have the loading of externals working so its only a matter of time before we have Pd-extended in the Android Marketplace. That said, you can build Pd for iPhoneOS, run it from the cmd line, then load externals. Then you can use the [apple/multitouc

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Andy Farnell
s GPL) Every patch carries a prominent GPL notice. On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > From: Frank Barknecht > > Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals > > To:

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread cyrille henry
d into the collection, all as GPL) Every patch carries a prominent GPL notice. On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Frank Barknecht wrote: From: Frank Barknecht Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals To: pd-list@iem.at Dat

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread João Pais
I suggest getting an Android device, we have the loading of externals working so its only a matter of time before we have Pd-extended in the Android Marketplace. for myself, I will get an android as soon as I can afford it. That said, you can build Pd for iPhoneOS, run it from the cmd line,

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 21:54 +0100, João Pais wrote: > > I suggest getting an Android device, we have the loading of externals > > working so its only a matter of time before we have Pd-extended in the > > Android Marketplace. > > for myself, I will get an android as soon as I can afford it. >

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:42:52PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > That said, you can build Pd for iPhoneOS, run it from the cmd line, > then load externals. Then you can use the [apple/multitouch] to get > data from the touch. Just to make it clear: RjDj supports multitouch as well,

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:44:09PM +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: > I wasn't aware that Apple are doing this. > This is interesting and important to me. > Frank and I are two of the principle authors > of rjlib (in fact there are many others including > Chris McCormick and many Pd artists who > h

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Right now, Peter Brinkmann, Peter Kirn, and I are leading the effort, but there have been a number of contributors as the project was developed. We have a nice Android/libpd app design and are now working on finalizing a proper release. The source code is available, break out your Eclipse and yo

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Andy Farnell
My mistake, not _only_ GPL, there is a mix of licenses you are right. And you've been uncommonly dilligent in compiling the library, which motivated me to defend those who _did_ opt for GPL (within RjDj in general) All the same, this Apple business is making me uncomfortable. They have becom

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, while it may be possible to be "officially" free software on the iPhoneOS, it is less and less possible to actually have free software. .hc On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 20:51 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: > > My mistake, not _only_ GPL, there is a mix > of licenses you are right. > > And you've be

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-11 Thread Jack
This is the end Beautiful friend This is the end My only friend, the end ... ++ Jack Le mercredi 11 août 2010 à 20:51 +0100, Andy Farnell a écrit : > > My mistake, not _only_ GPL, there is a mix > of licenses you are right. > > And you've been uncommonly > dilligent in compiling the library,

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-12 Thread Andy Farnell
Dream of drama and tragedy Jack, you old fool :) The Last Man will dribble "kill me" into his iLife machine with what's left of his mind. It says "permission denied". a. On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:02:49 +0200 Jack wrote: > This is the end > Beautiful friend > This is the end > My only friend, th

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-12 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Andy Farnell wrote: Dream of drama and tragedy Jack, you old fool :) The Last Man will dribble "kill me" into his iLife machine with what's left of his mind. It says "permission denied". Or "you don't exist. go away." http://stason.org/TULARC/os/linux-faq/156-You-don-t-

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
ssage: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:31:39 -0400 > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals > To: Peter Plessas > Cc: pd-list > Message-ID: <1281533499.2724.18.ca...@palatschinken> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" &

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Peter Plessas
ray > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:31:39 -0400 >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals >> To: Peter Plessas >> Cc: pd-list >> Messa

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
; > > Koray > > > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > > > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:31:39 -0400 > >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > >> Subject: Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals > >&g

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
er on we will also try Pd-extended in N900. I will post >> the link later on when we will have time to document all these. >> >> >> Koray >> >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >> >>> Message: 2 >>> Da

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
will have time to document all these. >>> >>> >>> Koray >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:31:39 -0400 >>>> From: Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-14 Thread Peter Plessas
ry Pd-extended in N900. I will post >>> the link later on when we will have time to document all these. >>> >>> >>> Koray >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >>> >>>> Message: 2 >>

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-16 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
>> Pd version you use in your computers, so all your previous patches will >>>> also work in Maemo as well. Later on we will also try Pd-extended in >>>> N900. I will post the link later on when we will have time to document all >>>> these. >>>>

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-17 Thread Peter Plessas
gt; same Pd version you use in your computers, so all your previous patches >>>>> will also work in Maemo as well. Later on we will also try Pd-extended >>>>> in N900. I will post the link later on when we will have time to document >>>>> all these. >>&g