Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Andy Farnell wrote: > > Yes, I understand that Iohannes, the remark is about the behaviour > you get if you don't understand and misuse [s~][r~]. It surprised ah, ok sorry for the repetition... > me that it accepted the instance and replaced the old one. indeed it is not what i would have expe

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:57:23 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Thankyou Frank. Remember we talked about problems that happen > >> using more than one [r~]. Was that to do with creation order? > >> Or is that something that only affects [throw~][catch~]

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Thankyou Frank. Remember we talked about problems that happen >> using more than one [r~]. Was that to do with creation order? >> Or is that something that only affects [throw~][catch~] pairs? >> >> > > Maybe it was just me misusing [s~], if you create m

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 > Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hallo, >> Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > what is the difference between

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:41:07 + Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 > Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hallo, > > Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo, > Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > what is the difference between r~/s~ and throw~/catch~ ? > > > > [r~][s~] are one t

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > what is the difference between r~/s~ and throw~/catch~ ? > > [r~][s~] are one to one To be correct: It's one to many. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:04:31AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > > The slight difference is for [s~][r~] vs signal connections the order > > of creation can change things. It's been discussed before in the context of > > delay/resonator

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the > more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program > flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. Not always. Well place

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread errordeveloper
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:04:31AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: > The slight difference is for [s~][r~] vs signal connections the order > of creation can change things. It's been discussed before in the context of > delay/resonator string models. > what is the difference between r~/s~ and throw~/ca

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Wilcox
Well, it all comes down to style now if we've determined theres no speed diff. Right now I've been building my objects with both traditional inlets/outlets as well as send/recieve mirrors named on the object name, first creation arg ala Chris McCormick's s-abstractions. So [rc-arp arp1] has a midi

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 19:31 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the > more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program > flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. with > send/receive you end

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread marius schebella
I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. with send/receive you end up with spaghetti code. Maybe when working with a lot of abstracti

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:12:27 -0500 "Daniel Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 6:08 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Daniel Wilcox wrote: > > > > > What is "faster" in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using > > > regular conn

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Wilcox
On Dec 18, 2007 6:08 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Daniel Wilcox wrote: > > > What is "faster" in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using > > regular connections or sends? I ask this as I have been developing > > objects with lots of sends insid

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Daniel Wilcox wrote: What is "faster" in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using regular connections or sends? I ask this as I have been developing objects with lots of sends inside of them and I'm wondering if this has any impact on patch performance ... even

[PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Wilcox
What is "faster" in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using regular connections or sends? I ask this as I have been developing objects with lots of sends inside of them and I'm wondering if this has any impact on patch performance ... even if I don't use more then half of them? It see