Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread errordeveloper
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:04:31AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: The slight difference is for [s~][r~] vs signal connections the order of creation can change things. It's been discussed before in the context of delay/resonator string models. what is the difference between r~/s~ and

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. Not always. Well placed

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:04:31AM +, Andy Farnell wrote: The slight difference is for [s~][r~] vs signal connections the order of creation can change things. It's been discussed before in the context of delay/resonator string

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the difference between r~/s~ and throw~/catch~ ? [r~][s~] are one to one Thankyou

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:41:07 + Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:58:31 +0100 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the difference between r~/s~ and

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thankyou Frank. Remember we talked about problems that happen using more than one [r~]. Was that to do with creation order? Or is that something that only affects [throw~][catch~] pairs? Maybe it was just me misusing [s~], if you create more than one

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:57:23 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Andy Farnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thankyou Frank. Remember we talked about problems that happen using more than one [r~]. Was that to do with creation order? Or is that something that only affects [throw~][catch~] pairs?

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Andy Farnell wrote: Yes, I understand that Iohannes, the remark is about the behaviour you get if you don't understand and misuse [s~][r~]. It surprised ah, ok sorry for the repetition... me that it accepted the instance and replaced the old one. indeed it is not what i would have

[PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Wilcox
What is faster in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using regular connections or sends? I ask this as I have been developing objects with lots of sends inside of them and I'm wondering if this has any impact on patch performance ... even if I don't use more then half of them? It

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Daniel Wilcox wrote: What is faster in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using regular connections or sends? I ask this as I have been developing objects with lots of sends inside of them and I'm wondering if this has any impact on patch performance ... even

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:12:27 -0500 Daniel Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007 6:08 PM, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Daniel Wilcox wrote: What is faster in terms of patch loads and runtime performance, using regular connections or sends? I

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread marius schebella
I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. with send/receive you end up with spaghetti code. Maybe when working with a lot of

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 19:31 -0500, marius schebella wrote: I think connections are slightly faster, but that is negligible. the more important aspect is programming style/readability/layout/program flow, and in this respect connections are definitely preferable. with send/receive you end up

Re: [PD] performance question: connections versus sends

2007-12-18 Thread Daniel Wilcox
Well, it all comes down to style now if we've determined theres no speed diff. Right now I've been building my objects with both traditional inlets/outlets as well as send/recieve mirrors named on the object name, first creation arg ala Chris McCormick's s-abstractions. So [rc-arp arp1] has a