Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Matt Barber wrote: mm. When I was studying music theory we used to reserve "operation" for a function that was 1 to 1 and onto; I think that usage has been pretty standard in music theory since 1987, through the work of David Lewin. Music theorists often screw up standard

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread Matt Barber
mm. When I was studying music theory we used to reserve "operation" for a function that was 1 to 1 and onto; I think that usage has been pretty standard in music theory since 1987, through the work of David Lewin. Music theorists often screw up standard math terms though, so I never know what to

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Matt Barber wrote: Right, in mod-12, the other multiplications are not strictly operations (there is no inverse). They are called operations anyway. I don't know your definition of operation. They're usually called "non-invertible operations", but in a Group (of Group

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread Matt Barber
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Matt Barber wrote: > >> If you're doing mod 12 operations, there is one more pitch operator -- >> multiplication by 5 or 7 -- which maps the chromatic scale to the circle of >> fifths and vice-versa. > > The "vice-ver

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Matt Barber wrote: If you're doing mod 12 operations, there is one more pitch operator -- multiplication by 5 or 7 -- which maps the chromatic scale to the circle of fifths and vice-versa. The "vice-versa" part is quite cool. Actually, apart from 1,5,7,11, all modulo-mul

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Johannes Kreidler wrote: hi list, congrats At the moment, Amazon says that it's not available, which is strange because it's definitely released, but at least it can be purchased at the Publishing House itself. > http://www.amazon.de/Loadbang-Programming-Electronic-Music-Pure/dp/3936000

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread nacho
om: Johannes Kreidler Subject: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: <49bea495.8060...@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed hi list, I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the help of a grant by the Music

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo Matt, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: > Attached is an inversion.pd which is a bit simpler -- usually when > inverting in pitch (rather than pitch-class) it's > easier/simpler/better to invert with respect to an axis of symmetry > rather than with respect to the first pitch in

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Geoff
A wonderful book. I have emailed the link to many. Thankyou for providing a wonderful resource Geoff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Matt Barber
> Ah, sorry: The patch is correct, but my explanation is wrong. Here's an > update: > > >  In inversion.pd this is realised by walking through the list with list-map. > The >  interval to use next is calculated by taking the difference between the > current >  element and the previous element. T

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Cool! I'll have fun playing with these examples. Thanks for the toot. ~Kyle On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > - inversion: That's a bit more complicated. Quoting Wikipedia: > > > > Inverted melodies >

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Loic Kessous
A french translation may be a good idea. As I intend to read the book, I may work on this too. If other french speaker want to contribute we can join efforts to do this. Loïc On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Johannes Kreidler wrote: I am pleased to

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Mirko Maier
I just wanted to say that this tutorial is really really great, I hope that much more interested guys will enter pd by working with this tutorial. thanks johannes! -- Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal geschützt? Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=m...@foot

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: > - inversion: That's a bit more complicated. Quoting Wikipedia: > > Inverted melodies > > When applied to melodies, the inversion of a given melody is the > melody turned upside-down. For instance, if the original melody h

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > Frank, I'm curious about how you use list objects in composition. I'd love > to see a little etude from you about that whenever you find the time. You > always make such clear, concise, and fun instructional patches. That's flattering s

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-17 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I must say this is a nice text. However, I was hoping to see more in the department of sequencing/composition. This has great sound design elements, but I am looking for better ways to compose with Pd. Frank, I'm curious about how you use list objects in composition. I'd love to see a little etude

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-17 Thread graeme
; bring up more Pd examples, and maybe later we will have another >> book. What do you think about this Hans? That would be great :) >> >> >> Koray >> >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:42 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >> >>> Message: 4 >

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:12:21 +0100 From: Johannes Kreidler Subject: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: <49bea495.8060...@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed hi list, I am pleased to announce that the

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-17 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
r 2009 20:12:21 +0100 From: Johannes Kreidler Subject: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: <49bea495.8060...@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed hi list, I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the h

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: > Congrats on finishing it Johannes. > This looks very nice. Some people ask if my book > focuses on sound design, and Millers book focuses on > DSP theory, why is there not a book dedicated to > composition in Pd? Well now there is. Hm, yo

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread dmotd
this looks likely to be a brilliant reference, very balanced language, not too patronising and not too convoluted. it presents a number of complex methods in a straight forward manner, but with enough depth to really build upon. many congratulations johannes and please pass on my praise to your

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Farnell
Just finished scanning all the material, it's a goldmine of pd musical knowledge. Totally excellent!!! a. On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:12:21 +0100 Johannes Kreidler wrote: > hi list, > > I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last > years with the help of a grant by the M

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Roberto Mallo García
El 16/03/2009, a las 20.42, pd-list-requ...@iem.at escribió: Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:12:21 +0100 From: Johannes Kreidler Subject: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: <49bea495.8060...@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed h

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread marius schebella
this is awesome!! wow. thanks for this huge effort! marius. Johannes Kreidler wrote: hi list, I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / Germany, is now online, in english and in german. It is al

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Miller Puckette
Wow, that's incredibly readable and useful - bravo! Miller On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:12:21PM +0100, Johannes Kreidler wrote: > hi list, > > I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last > years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / > Germany, is

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Kreidler
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Johannes Kreidler wrote: I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / Germany, is now online, in english and in german. Wow. But, are there plans for a French translation? If th

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:12:21 +0100 Johannes Kreidler wrote: > hi list, > > I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last > years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / > Germany, is now online, in english and in german. Congrats on finishing it

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Johannes Kreidler wrote: I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / Germany, is now online, in english and in german. Wow. But, are there plans for a French translation? If the

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > This looks very nice! I especially like the illustrations like the > dac->speaker in 3.1.1.1.1. > > What version of pd is this? I don't recognize some of the object names in > the list-of-all-objects jpg in chapter 2, like "act

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
, 3/16/09, Johannes Kreidler wrote: > From: Johannes Kreidler > Subject: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com > To: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 8:12 PM > hi list, > > I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote > in the last years with the help of a grant

[PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Kreidler
hi list, I am pleased to announce that the big pd tutorial I wrote in the last years with the help of a grant by the Music University of Freiburg / Germany, is now online, in english and in german. It is also available as a book (paperback) at Wolke Publishing House, where the "bang" book wa