Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
easy, I do at least know that much about what squaring is ;) 2017-03-23 19:27 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi : > > F(1) (= the sum after a full period) is 0.5. That's the reason why the > Hanning window in this case is twice as large to bring the sum to 1. > weighting a constant(!) signal with such a H

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Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Christof Ressi
> sorry, I guess I didn't get most of what you said :/ kinda over my head...   no worries. just an awkward attempt from my side to explain code with words :-D.   > actually, also, the envelope is applied to the squares of the amplitudes... > and this gets me completely lost now on what it means m

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Martin Peach
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > actually, also, the envelope is applied to the squares of the > amplitudes... and this gets me completely lost now on what it means > mathematically > > It means that negative signals will count the same as positive ones. Martin _

Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread Baptiste Chatel
Oh, did i say the interface was a web gui ? OS-agnostic ? Le 23 mars 2017 21:18:33 GMT+01:00, Baptiste Chatel a écrit : >I bought a MOTU Ultralite AVB with my Asus n550jv with a double boot >W10/ubuntu. The ultralite avb is awesome. USB2, Class-compliant, adat >i/o, internal mixer, EQ, gates, co

Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread Baptiste Chatel
I bought a MOTU Ultralite AVB with my Asus n550jv with a double boot W10/ubuntu. The ultralite avb is awesome. USB2, Class-compliant, adat i/o, internal mixer, EQ, gates, compressors, aux, routing, presets everywhere. Audio over IP if you're keen to in motu's avb stuff and/or newer macs. Oh, and

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
actually, also, the envelope is applied to the squares of the amplitudes... and this gets me completely lost now on what it means mathematically 2017-03-23 17:00 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > > > 2017-03-23 16:53 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > >> >> >> 2017-03-23 16:45 GMT-03:00 Al

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-03-23 16:53 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > > > 2017-03-23 16:45 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > >> >> and as I see it, it's just applying a hanning envelope into the input and >> NOTHING more, right? >> > > the hanning envelope itself actually goes from 0 to "2" and not from 0 to

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-03-23 16:45 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > > and as I see it, it's just applying a hanning envelope into the input and > NOTHING more, right? > the hanning envelope itself actually goes from 0 to "2" and not from 0 to 1, so I assume the compensation is done right there...

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
sorry, I guess I didn't get most of what you said :/ kinda over my head... 2017-03-23 15:06 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi : > > (and feel like the overlap affects only the output rate) > > Exactly! That's what i meant. > > > 2017-03-23 10:59 > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. März 2017 um 15:12 Uhr > > V

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-03-23 6:54 GMT-03:00 Orm Finnendahl > > In the object's new method, the object allocates a buffer ("buf") and > writes the Hanning function with RMS compensation (the two nested > divisions by npoints) into it. > ok, I get "buf" is a hann window with very small values (which depend on npoints

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Christof Ressi
> (and feel like the overlap affects only the output rate) Exactly! That's what i meant. > 2017-03-23 10:59 > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. März 2017 um 15:12 Uhr > Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" > An: "Christof Ressi" > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > Betreff: Re: Re: [PD] how does env~ work? > >

Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
If I were in your situation, I’d stick with a Thinkpad. They are expensive, but IMHO worth the price as they are rugged, reliable, and repairable. In general, Linux distress run well on their hardware. Another good option is a Panasonic Toughbook which are admittedly bulkier and expensive but yo

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hi Jonathan, > Sorry for the delay, the plutil manpage for 10.8.5 says about format > for the '-convert' flag: > fmt is one of: xml1, for version 1 of the XML plist format > binary1, for version 1 of the binary plist format > json, for the JSON format > Among the additional options is: > -r

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Donnerstag, den 23. März 2017 um 10:59:16 Uhr (-0300) schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres: > > the input is a sinusoid That's the problem: If the size of the analysis window is sufficiently large compared to the frequency of a static sinusoid You can't really expect any difference in the rms value

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I do realize the windowing makes the result more accurate and stable, somehow... (and feel like the overlap affects only the output rate) 2017-03-23 10:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > > > 2017-03-23 10:58 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > >> how does overlap affect the rms value? If

Re: [PD] Fastest way to find lines in text file

2017-03-23 Thread Jack
Le 23/03/2017 à 09:24, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : > On 2017-03-22 16:55, Jack wrote: >> Le 22/03/2017 à 16:41, Christof Ressi a écrit : >>> does it *really* have to be faster than 40ms? what are you trying to do? do >>> you *need* the output in 0 logical time? depending on the situation you >>

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-03-23 10:58 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > how does overlap affect the rms value? If I use an overlap of 32 I see no > difference, except the output rate. > this is comparing an overlap of 32 to an overlap of "1" (no overlaps), and a window size of 8192 (256 being the hop size) - the

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
how does overlap affect the rms value? If I use an overlap of 32 I see no difference, except the output rate. 2017-03-23 8:07 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi : > some additions: > > the object maintains a summing buffer where it writes the current sum of > the different analysis windows (the number of w

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Christof Ressi
some additions: the object maintains a summing buffer where it writes the current sum of the different analysis windows (the number of windows depends on the hop size), starting with the most recent one. what happens in the loop is that it takes n input samples, squares them, multiplies it wi

Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread Derek Kwan
João Pais writes: > > I would be looking for a similar setup: > - a robust laptop where to run w10. The less weight the better, even > if it sacrifices some performance. I'm a Linux user, but I've been using a Dell XPS 15 9550. The form factor is nice, it's relatively thin and light. I'd say my

Re: [PD] how does env~ work?

2017-03-23 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am Donnerstag, den 23. März 2017 um 01:34:58 Uhr (-0300) schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres: > howdy, help file says "The analysis is "Hanning" (raised cosine) windowed." > > how does that work? I tried looking at the code and got no clue... In the object's new method, the object allocates a buffer

Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi João, Am Donnerstag, den 23. März 2017 um 08:51:36 Uhr (+0100) schrieb João Pais: > I would be looking for a similar setup: > - a robust laptop where to run w10. The less weight the better, even if it > sacrifices some performance. I'm on a ThinkPad T460s and it's well worth it. > - which aud

Re: [PD] Fastest way to find lines in text file

2017-03-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-03-22 16:55, Jack wrote: > Le 22/03/2017 à 16:41, Christof Ressi a écrit : >> does it *really* have to be faster than 40ms? what are you trying to do? do >> you *need* the output in 0 logical time? depending on the situation you >> might want to spread the computation across multiple audi

[PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

2017-03-23 Thread João Pais
Dear list, I'm looking to buy new laptop and a matching audio interface for daily use + audio performance/programming (not video). I would be interested to know what are the current trends nowadays, and what experiences you have. My current setup is: - windows 10 (won't change) - Lenovo X61s (I'm

Re: [PD] defaults interface on 10.8

2017-03-23 Thread katja
Hi Jonathan, Sorry for the delay, the plutil manpage for 10.8.5 says about format for the '-convert' flag: fmt is one of: xml1, for version 1 of the XML plist format binary1, for version 1 of the binary plist format json, for the JSON format Among the additional options is: -r For JSon, add w