Re: [PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Ok. No need to rush. Thanks! : ) Lucarda. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 12/12/2017 7:58 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > I can give it a look - but I doubt I'll manage to get it into 0.48-1 - > I can really only manage bug fixes ATM. > > cheers > M > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at

Re: [PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Miller Puckette
I can give it a look - but I doubt I'll manage to get it into 0.48-1 - I can really only manage bug fixes ATM. cheers M On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:52:09PM +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Good. > > I'm glad that we talked about it and find answers to our legitimate questions. > > Since it's a

Re: [PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Good. I'm glad that we talked about it and find answers to our legitimate questions. Since it's a TCL extension, worse case is that it can't be loaded and Pd runs fine without it. So less of a worry in some ways as compared to a C library. So you are starting to like the TWAPI thing? Could

Re: [PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Me, I'm paranoid :) I haven't looked at TWAPI yet, but in general there would have to be a compelling reason to add a dependency to Pd. I'm trying to make sure everything that goes in there will still be running 30-ish years in the future. cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:21:29PM

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
It's related to the current window getting out of sync, which is a bug we've been discussing on the pd-dev list. Clicking the titlebar and/or moving the window somehow resets it. enohp ym morf tnes --- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com > On Dec 12, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Martin

Re: [PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
I don't think asking a couple legitimate questions is paranoia. When adding any kind of library to a software project, you always want to balance what the library provides with having another dependency. It can be easy to add the kitchen sink but hard to maintain it. Since it's a TCL

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Martin Hiendl
Thanks! I know about having to *move* the cursor and that has always been that way. But here's what's happening on my machine now: When I'm in edit mode in one window, go to another window and then come back to the one before (w/o having left edit more), the mouse doesn't show that this window

Re: [PD] ASIO on Windows and vanilla Pd 48

2017-12-12 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Hi, You have to select the menu: media/ASIO (via portaudio). There you get the list of ASIO drivers. Select the one you want to use. Normally you should start with a block size of 256 (this is the ASIO buffer) and 6ms of delay. Hope it helps. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On

[PD] ASIO on Windows and vanilla Pd 48

2017-12-12 Thread Kerry Hagan
Hi all, I’m normally on a Mac, but I’m working in a multi-channel space that runs off some kind of Robocop Windows. (I tried to figure out what the OS was, but even the student there to help me didn’t know). The machine is A.MAZ.ING. Configured for virtual reality/3D, so everything is super

[PD] Dejavu on ms-windows was: (Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released)

2017-12-12 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
@ Dan I think TWAPI works on any windows machine. I'm not against that we do it your way but does that means it will work on all windows versions? Will you be able to test that? I'm saying this just to save your time. We can use TWAPI now and you have plenty of time to find something better

[PD] Purr Data 2.4.5

2017-12-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
Hi list,Purr Data 2.4.5 is available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.5 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes * remove [midiclkin]* handle [draw] events correctly for nested data structure arrays * improve the deb package build

Re: [PD] hoa & cream can't load library on 0.48/0.48.1-test

2017-12-12 Thread Amur Tet
Hi pd-list. I have problems using Hoa and Cream library. I put these libraries in Preferences-->Startup following indications reported here [1]. Opening Pd with verbose option I get: tried /Users/dis/Documents/Pd/externals/Hoa.d_fat and failed tried /Users/dis/Documents/Pd/externals/Hoa.pd_darwin

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
As a followup: When I do Pd workshops, I tell people to shake the mouse *then* look at the cursor if they aren't sure which mode they are in after changing. It's subtle, but helps! > On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > You have to *move* the mouse for the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 22:01:22 +0100 > From: Roman Haefeli > > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
You misunderstand me. I'm not against something that #1 works and is #2 maintainable. I'm not sure that this fix is either yet. You can, of course, do some testing and prove that it meets #1 and #2. I naturally do *not* speak for Miller who largely ends up responsible for many of these things,

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
You have to *move* the mouse for the cursor to update. This was the case before 0.48 and there is really no way for it to happen with Tk that I've found. > On Dec 8, 2017, at 8:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Martin Hiendl

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
Also, you don't have to move everything, just move 1 object and then move it back to force the scroll bars to recalculate ala SHIFT arrows. > On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > I'm well aware of it and haven't been able to figure it out. It seems to be >

Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Wilcox
I'm well aware of it and haven't been able to figure it out. It seems to be another detail that comes with the Cocoa backend to Tk 8.5+. The second thing is that Pd windows *always* open above everything else. This was also not the case with Tk 8.4. Oh well... I suppose that's better than not