Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-2 released

2018-08-12 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Great news! But I'm still getting 0.48-1 when clicking in - compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.6 or later (4 Megabytes) so maybe double check all links cheers 2018-08-13 0:42 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.48-2 is

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-2 released

2018-08-12 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.48-2 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] distinction Pd lingo: abstraction, subpatch, subwindow

2018-08-12 Thread Max
I see, then maybe we are better off without umbrella term and just refer to subpatches and abstractions as "subpatches and abstractions". m. On 12.08.2018 19:58, Miller Puckette wrote: Trouble might be that there are other forms of subwindows (array, text) that aren't patches. So we'd need a

Re: [PD] distinction Pd lingo: abstraction, subpatch, subwindow

2018-08-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Trouble might be that there are other forms of subwindows (array, text) that aren't patches. So we'd need a term for 'a subwindow that's a patch'. Maybe 'patch subwindow'? But that's so close to 'subpatch' that it would make everythig worse I think. cheers M On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 07:00:36PM

Re: [PD] distinction Pd lingo: abstraction, subpatch, subwindow

2018-08-12 Thread Max
May I propose subwindow as an umbrella term for both abstractions and subpatches? Both terms should be either hyphenated or not. I am fine with not hyphenating them, but as a native German speaker I might have a bias towards sticking words together. m. On 12.08.2018 18:45, Miller Puckette

Re: [PD] distinction Pd lingo: abstraction, subpatch, subwindow

2018-08-12 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, (adopting for the moment subpatch/abstraction for the larger class and one-off subpatch for the more specific one of a non-abstraction)... I imagine that more things are true of subpatch/abstractions (they have subwindows, inlets, outlets; and their run-time semantics are identical) than

Re: [PD] distinction Pd lingo: abstraction, subpatch, subwindow

2018-08-12 Thread Max
Hi Miller, thanks for chiming in. On 12.08.2018 00:54, Miller Puckette wrote: I think the best terminology is "sub-patch" for either an abstraction or for a one-off subpatch. (But then we probably need a better term for 'one-off'; maybe 'ad hoc'? may I ask the rationale for it? I believe a