[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0 released

2018-09-24 Thread Miller Puckette
At long last... Pd version 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/lis

Re: [PD] file associations on windows (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0test4 released)

2018-09-24 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Would be nice to do it on pd_guiprefs.tcl. The .pd file association does not need to specify 32 or 64 Pd on the registry key. A bit more on pd_guiprefs.tcl. : On: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/476 we talked about the need to not share prefs for pd32 and pd64. The C side looks tr

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread Max
On 24.09.2018 15:45, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: If not, is it possible for the user to make these file associations? For the File Manager, in Dolphin "pd" is the application associated with the file the file-association should be for "pd-gui" rather than "pd" (the Pd-GUI has all the logic to pre

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 15:26, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > hmm, yeah, I guess we forgot to upload that file to deken :/ when using the "deken" cmdline tool (well, a recent enough version) for packaging/uploading, the default package-format (dekformat=1) will already take care of this. packagers can ch

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 14:55, Max wrote: > On 24.09.2018 14:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote: >>> On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there >>> >>>

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hmm, yeah, I guess we forgot to upload that file to deken :/ Em seg, 24 de set de 2018 às 05:01, Antoine Rousseau escreveu: > just search "avg~" in deken, it will answer that you'll find it in > "cyclone". > (BTW: strangely it will only talk about cyclone-v0.2beta1, not about > latest cyclone-v0

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread Max
On 24.09.2018 14:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote: On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavi

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > A useful note with the new [declare] -path and -lib updates: if you > prepend the local paths with explicit ./ or ../, then the searching will > stop after looking relative to the patch. This way you can avoid loading > system wide or user se

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Pd-L2Ork offers -unique startup flag that leverages Tcl/Tk's ability to share variables across multiple apps. By default it tries to open patches in an existing instance to prevent newcomers who tend to open patches by double-clicking on icons from opening multiple instances of Pd-L2Ork and thereby

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote: > On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via >> the file explorer if you want multiples from there > > I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. > While on MacOS this

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread Max
On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. While on MacOS this will open in the same Pd instance, Linux

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
A useful note with the new [declare] -path and -lib updates: if you prepend the local paths with explicit ./ or ../, then the searching will stop after looking relative to the patch. This way you can avoid loading system wide or user search path libs first. Of course, you can't override already

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
Actually, if pd open did take an optional argument, this would be easy to handle ala: * the Audio menu items could send the open command with the extra arg so selecting the audio test paths is only opened once * the helpbrowser detects double clicks and calls pd open, I think it would make sens

Re: [PD] file associations on windows (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0test4 released)

2018-09-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
It could probably added to pd_guiprefs.tcl. We're already setting a few things there on macOS that need to be set for the GUI to behave nicely, ie. turn off window state saving for just the Pd app. > On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:34 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
When I work on something bigger, I put my externals in the same dir with my patches . Some of the externals may be originally installed from a Debian repo, some from Deken, some compiled. I find the externals that I need and that work. Then, I just copy the externals to my patch dir to keep th

Re: [PD] Some patches broken in 0.49test3

2018-09-24 Thread Antoine Rousseau
> > he's still able to trigger such errors. > see https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/477 and a proposed fix: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/492 Le lun. 24 sept. 2018 à 11:45, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > Hi > > 0.49test4 fixed the regression for me. I don't see any 'INVALI

Re: [PD] Some patches broken in 0.49test3

2018-09-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi 0.49test4 fixed the regression for me. I don't see any 'INVALID COMMAND NAME' errors anymore. Claude told me in #dataflow, though, that he's still able to trigger such errors. Thanks, Roman On Sun, 2018-09-23 at 09:40 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey Claude > > It seems you already did the

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Atte via Pd-list
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:17:18 +0200 IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > How about externals/abstractions (is this referred to as "packages" or > > "libraries"?)? If I stick to debian repos here, is there a simple way to > > add all these to the search path in pd? It seems cumbersome and error prone

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 10:36, Atte via Pd-list wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:12:14 +0200 > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > >> weird. why would you do exactly the opposite of what i suggested? >> also, Pd-0.48-2 is available for Debian/stretch via backports. > > Oops, sorry bout that, I totally misundersto

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 10:39, Atte via Pd-list wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:57:58 +0200 > Antoine Rousseau wrote: > >> just search "avg~" in deken, it will answer that you'll find it in >> "cyclone". > > Ah, actually didn't try with exactly "avg~", just a bunch of other objects. I > guess that when s

Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?

2018-09-24 Thread katja
Miller do you mean to extend the single-open mechanism from the doc files to the 'file>open' menu? Like when you try to open a C file in Geany while it is already open, Geany will pop the existing one rather than open a second instance. For a code editor that makes sense. And Pd is a code editor af

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Atte via Pd-list
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:57:58 +0200 Antoine Rousseau wrote: > just search "avg~" in deken, it will answer that you'll find it in > "cyclone". Ah, actually didn't try with exactly "avg~", just a bunch of other objects. I guess that when search doesn't turn up anything, it means it's not provided

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Atte via Pd-list
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:12:14 +0200 IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > weird. why would you do exactly the opposite of what i suggested? > also, Pd-0.48-2 is available for Debian/stretch via backports. Oops, sorry bout that, I totally misunderstood you, then. My bad. So you would suggest pd from backp

[PD] file associations on windows (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0test4 released)

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 01:17, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > Known little thing: > Something must be done to somehow be able to switch .pd file association > to 32 or 64. The current behavior is that files (opened from the > Explorer) are opened with the last Pd installation and if this > installation is r

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2018-09-24 09:39, Atte via Pd-list wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:02:23 +0200 > IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >> there is also the "pd-deken-apt" (Debian) package, which allows you to >> install the Debian packaged libraries from within Pd (using the deken >> plugin) > > Ok, thanks!. > > I ju

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Antoine Rousseau
just search "avg~" in deken, it will answer that you'll find it in "cyclone". (BTW: strangely it will only talk about cyclone-v0.2beta1, not about latest cyclone-v0.3rc1). Le lun. 24 sept. 2018 à 09:39, Atte via Pd-list a écrit : > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:02:23 +0200 > IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

Re: [PD] Managing externals/abstractions in libraries

2018-09-24 Thread Atte via Pd-list
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:02:23 +0200 IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > there is also the "pd-deken-apt" (Debian) package, which allows you to > install the Debian packaged libraries from within Pd (using the deken > plugin) Ok, thanks!. I just installed 0.48.2 (with my debian hat off), deken is include