Back when you could get a new "major" release for a missing dll
https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-list@lists.iem.at/thread/SCXHP655TORUY4VS5IQSXEG2GZOZ7CZY/
Winfried Ritsch wrote on 09/08/2024 14:20:
Am Freitag, 9. August 2024, 10:22:39 CEST schrieb cyrille henry:
Le 08/08/2024 � 19:08
If you need 'instantaneous' (zero logical time) copy, then [array get] and
[array set] are probably a good option, but even though this will not stop the
DSP, it may well cause an audio dropout, typically in the case of large copies
on a system with small blocksize and small buffer size and non
Here's something the Chair and Bela teams have been working on for a few
months: a proof-of-concept web interface to Pd.
https://github.com/BelaPlatform/pure-data-web-GUI
This leverages the refactored communication protocol effort by Iohannes in order to obtain a
"toolkit-agnostic Core<->GUI
i noticed that the CPU toll on BELA is quite high with puredata and fexpr~
If you are not going full-polyphonic, you could try to disable unused [fexpr~]
objects based on the envelope's amplitude, either via [switch~] or using
[start( and [stop( messages to [fexpr~].
maybe (if i take this fu
I am sorry if this conversation has taken place before and I missed it, but is
it expected that the default parameters (size etc) for most (all?) iemguis has
changed with 0.53 compared to 0.52 (and possibly all previous versions)?
E.g.:
hsl
width: 128->162
height: 15->19
label font size: 10->
Not that I have any experience with mobmuplat, but to validate whether it is
the env~ object that stops working with the GUI, try to use its output to
control audio output (e.g.: attached patch). This will tell you whether it's a
GUI or env~ issue. If this works, maybe try throttling the messag
On Bela we've been running with blocksize of 8 for a few years since 2016 and
then we moved to 16 samples per block around 2018 I think (in both cases
redefining the problematic constants). I think only in a couple of occasions
this caused an incompatibility with a couple of externals relying o
disclaimer: I work for this company
We sell the CTAG-FACE (4in/8out) and CTAG-BEAST (8in/16out). These work with
BeagleBone Black via ALSA or Bela's ultra-low-latency environment. No fiddly
USB ports, relatively compact, super reliable, works out of the box.
https://shop.bela.io/collections/ct
Each Makefile has a different way of looking for the path where m_pd.h, and
where it is located on your system depends on how you installed Pd ...
normally `find /usr/include /usr/local/include -name m_pd.h` will tell you
where the file is. Once you know where it is, you can inspect the `Makefil
That's a Linux build, but is it an ARM build compatible with the architecture
in use?
Try `file /path/to/comport.ld_linux` and make sure you get the same result as
you'd get for any externals that actually work. You can run `Pd` with the
verbose flag and that should print some extra info about
There are a number of Pd-based sculptures done with Bela, see for instance:
Fedde Ten Berge
https://blog.bela.io/2017/12/12/fedde-ten-berge-instruments-bela/
Yann Seznec https://blog.bela.io/2020/06/24/trampoline-synth/
John Ferguson, Erik Griswold, Paul Bardini, and Daniel Della-Bosca
https://
Never used one, but you can try tweaking the "After" or "Requires" parameter in
the systemd script. On Bela, this commit cut down the power-to-sound time from 18 to 10 seconds
(and there's room for improvement):
https://github.com/BelaPlatform/bela-image-builder/commit/a85b82b526f3529523b9b67a70
FWIW, there is something similar already (and yes it has the same limitations
on in/out ports) https://github.com/sebpiq/pd-fileutils/ we are using it on
Bela to preview Pd patches, so we made a couple of changes to fix some issues
with it (
https://github.com/BelaPlatform/Bela/commits/master/
libsndfile also can extract loop points from a variety of formats. The relevant
code for wav is here
https://github.com/erikd/libsndfile/blob/master/src/wav.c#L1140-L1163
Kjetil Matheussen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil Matheussen
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo
You cannot really "extend" the RAM of a board. You need a more clever way of
loading samples. One common approach is to load only the beginning of all the samples in
a table, and then whenever the sample is triggered, start by playing back the pre-loaded
table, while you start reading the remai
build it from source? as far as I remember, it is very straightforward.
On Monday, 24 June 2019, 15:28:26 BST, Csaba Láng wrote:
Dear list,
is there a way to install the mrpeach pack for armv7 with ubuntu 16.04?
Thanks,
Popesz
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I don't know why it shows up in audio, really.
/dev/midi1 is OSS (or an emulation of it). OSS is an audio/midi driver older
than ALSA. I don't know anything about OSS, but maybe it lists the MIDI devices
under audio as well?
Maybe this version of Pd has been built without support for ALSA? I thi
So, assuming you have one MIDI device plugged in and also some sort of audio
codec, then it seems that ALSA is recognizing these devices correctly. What
audio backend is selected in Pd? What (if any) MIDI devices show up?
On Tuesday, 5 February 2019, 02:42:17 GMT, Alexandre Torres Porres
wr
can you run
amidi -l
aplay -l
in the terminal and post the results?
On Tuesday, 5 February 2019, 02:26:18 GMT, Alexandre Torres Porres
wrote:
Hi, so, I'm still trying to use this old and now just garbage C.H.I.P. computer
(the 1st under 10$ single board computer). It's running Pd 0.49-0
interesting thanks.
I am on Pd 0.49.1 on Mac (10.11.6) and when I open the conv~-help.pd file I
often (but not always!) get the following error in the Pd console:
```
while executing
("uplevel" body line 1354)
invoked from within
"uplevel#0 $docmds"
```
and sometimes some more, possibly havin
Possibly not what you are looking for, but on Bela we use a modified version of
https://github.com/sebpiq/pd-fileutils to generate a preview SVG from a .pd
file. This has the big advantage of not needing Pd, so you could run it in the
user's browser or on a server, and consequently it has at lea
It's been done this past summer for Purr-data/Pd-l2ork. Here is the report:
http://disis.music.vt.edu/pipermail/l2ork-dev/2018-August/002019.html
Best,
Giulio
On Sunday, 16 December 2018, 11:29:25 GMT, Dario Sanfilippo
wrote:
Hello, list.
I'm just curious to know if anybody is actively work
libola itself may have a number of deps: on my Debian system I get
$ pkg-config --libs libola
-L/usr/local/lib -lola -lolacommon -lprotobuf
so maybe IOhannes's second line could be amended to:
$ make -f /usr/share/pd-flext/dev/Makefile.flext ldlibs="$(pkg-config --libs
pd-flext) $(pkg-config --
there was an error in my debouncing patch, now fixed at the URL below. Sending
a float into [delay] changes the delay time, and that gets me every time (I
instinctively think that it just gets casted to a bang!).
Giulio
On Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 21:58:34 BST, Wendy Van Wynsberghe
wrote:
On Friday, 6 April 2018, 13:42:26 BST, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
wrote:
On Friday, April 6, 2018, 6:24:13 AM EDT, Giulio Moro via Pd-list
wrote:
> I don't think it makes sense to have a malloc() and free() for each call to a
> msg box.
> Pd is already not very real-time frie
I don't think it makes sense to have a malloc() and free() for each call to a
msg box.
Pd is already not very real-time friendly, why make it worse?
There could be ...
- statically allocated memory for t_gstack y in pd_pushsym
- a pre-allocated memory pool meant for short-lived memory allocations
No idea, but your friend should be able to build them from source easily. I
built them for the BeagleBone Black and that was straightforward.
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017, 19:14:53 BST, oliver wrote:
hi,
does anybody know if the mrpeach externals (are compiled for the
raspberry pi architecture ?
As to "compiling but not working", I had issues in the past where some alloca()
in [fiddle~] were failing on the BeagleBone Black (that is, Linux, but
embedded), so it was failing at runtime with no meaningful error other than
"segmentation fault".
On Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 15:03:28 BST, Alexan
What EXTRA=true does when building with the Makefile is that it adds in the .o
files generated by the .c files in Pure-data/extras to the prerequisites for
the library and links them in. In practice, if you can add the .c files in
extras/ so that they get compiled and linked in by your project y
I have no idea how you build libpd for Android (I also assume that you are
building it yourself).
When I build it for Linux I do something like:
`make EXTRA=true <>`
that flag `EXTRA=true` makes sure that the extras are compiled and linked into
the `libpd.so` file.I hope the above can be somehow
I think you need to make libpd with EXTRA=true or something like that in order
to include the extras in the libpd library file without need for extra files.
Or at least that's how it works on linux/mac, no idea about android.
Just double check in the build log that bob~.o actually gets compiled a
If they were to post to both lists at the same time, mailman should be clever
enough to prevent sending duplicated messages to who subscribers that are in
both lists?
Or at least if mailman is not that clever, many mail clients would be able to
detect the duplicate and show a single message. But
Pd messages get processed in the audio thread in a sample-accurate fashion.
This means that if you are sending many messages within the time of the audio
callback, then your callback will take longer to execute. If the time it takes
to execute exceeds the time available for it to complete, then
I think the documentation clearly says somewhere something along the lines of
"to find out more of these, look at the source code for Pd".
Giulio
From: oliver
To: pd-l...@mail.iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2017, 17:47
Subject: [PD] messages FROM pd ? ...
hi, dear list !
i know abou
In many Pd does this already.
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/pure-data/ci/0.47-1/tree/src/d_arithmetic.c?format=raw
see "scalarover_perform" for instance: it computes a single division and then
runs multiplications in the loop. But I think the compiler would figure out
this on its own (per
Hi,
I was wondering if this is still a wanted feature and if anyone did some
further work on this beyond what is here
https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c/pdtest_multi/pdtest_multi.c
I peeked through the Pd Vanilla (0.46) source code last night, and I am under
the impression th
> (so the order of data arrival is guaranteed).
Well this is a design feature of UDP: there is no guarantee of whether packets
are going to be received or in what order. If you use UDP, you MUST write your
program in such a way that it is resilient to data loss and data order. If you
don't, th
Nice, that works for .
Any idea why I see nothing in objects?
Thanks,
Giulio
From: Jonathan Wilkes
To: Giulio Moro ; "pd-list@lists.iem.at"
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2017, 22:49
Subject: Re: Visualising HTML page in Purr-data
> Hi,
> great that purr-data
Hi,
great that purr-data is finally out.
I went back to this thread
https://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@lists.iem.at/msg10518.html which briefly
touched on the topic of visualizing HTML pages inside purr data, but did not
find the solution to my problem.
Using seems to load local files just
> I don't know why [expr~] is usually not considered vanilla
Maybe because it lives in extra/ instead of src/ ?
What is extra/ there for, by the way? I remember it being mentioned in msp's
paper that introduced [pd~], but not sure why it is still there.
Giulio
A solution is available in Enzien's heavylib
https://github.com/enzienaudio/heavylib , it involves some [min] and [clip
-1e-37 0] . No [expr~], so it is also fully heavy-compatible (as you would
expect).Giulio
From: cyrille henry
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017,
Speaking of Bela, we have also been using libpd for the past nine months or so.
Some modifications were necessary to allow Xenomai to perform at its best.
https://github.com/BelaPlatform/libpd/
The most important was to take the `sys_microsleep()` out of PROCESS(_x, _y) in
z_libpd.c : this was
It surely is.I cannot find any details on the "open hardware" design of the
instrument, though. Are they on the website somewhere?
From: Eran Sachs
To: "pd-l...@iem.at" ; "de...@umatic.nl"
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2016, 19:44
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PURE DATA BENJOLIN
#
you may want to have a look at these recent discussions on this
list:https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-10/116830.html
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-09/116315.html
Giulio
From: Matt Barber
To: PD-List
Sent: Monday, 7 November 2016, 16:52
Subject
On our system we need to "prepare" (de-interleave/resample) the input/output
channels that are passed to libpd.The user may not be using all the I/Os
available in their patch.Is there a way to get from libpd the number of
adc~/dac~ channels actually in use by the current Pd patch?
This way we co
It sounds like a design feature. The computation of re-blocked subpatches is
not spread evenly over time, but it is carried out as fast as possible whenever
the "clock ticks". The CPU usage is low on average, but there are spikes (on
those sample blocks when all the ffts are computed) that preve
Just the opposite, the idea is actually to avoid revising all existing objects,
that's why I'd rather want to create variations on [block~] / [switch~] that
support threading for all of the objects in the subpatch.
Giulio
From: Jonathan Wilkes
To: Giulio Moro ; Pd-List
Sent: Monday, 3 O
Subpatches with the same or smaller block size as the parent patch should not
be threaded.Subpatches with larger blocksize should be threaded, but it's left
up to the user to enable that.
From: Jonathan Wilkes
To: Giulio Moro ; Pd-List
Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2016, 6:08
Subject:
The entire subpatch, which in principle can be used to wrap [fft~].My plan is
to have a common way of wrapping these objects with threads so that I do not
have to re-write all of them.
Giulio
From: Jonathan Wilkes
To: Giulio Moro ; Pd-List
Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2016, 1:43
Subje
interesting, can you please elaborate on this:
> Its design principle is centered around nimble distributed development which
> may (and already does) include improvements in core behavior.
thanks
Giulio
>
> From: Ivica Bukvic
>To: Dan Wilcox
>Cc: Pd-list
>
Jonathan,I struggle a bit to understand what is the end goal of Purr Data:as
far as I can tell, right now it is a re-implementation of the existing GUI in
HTML5, which is great.Once this process is done (and I see we are very close
now), how do you see the project will evolve? Will it just be ab
>> With a
>> threaded implementation, you could add a delay for that specific subpatch
>> instead of the whole of Pd.
> I'm having trouble seeing how that would work in practice.
> Would the user specify the delay in ms/blocks as an argument?
Yes, that's the plan, by default I'd set it to the nu
So having a look at the source code I'd say what would happen is that the
second block prints the samples of the sound file.
I guess the point you are trying to make here is that a threaded version of
[fft~], the perform routing should block if the samples are not ready in time.
That sounds perf
Thanks Jonathan.
Also [readsf~] supports threading and so do [udpsend] and [udpreceive], for
obvious reasons involving system calls.
> Can you guarantee that the revisions you've implemented generate the same
> output as Pd Vanilla, for all cases?
I'd rather say it does not, in all cases. At
It looks like I am not very lucky in getting attention, so let me try to re-up
this. Can we implement a threaded [block~] ? see details below
From: Giulio Moro
To: Pd-List
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2016, 2:23
Subject: Threading in Pd/libpd
Hi all,if I understand correctly, usi
Hi all,if I understand correctly, using the [block~] and [switch~] objects to
increase the blocksize for a given subpatch, means that the DSP computation for
that subpatch is delayed until the moment when enough input samples have been
collected, at which point the entire DSP stack for the subpa
ha! good point!there goes my argument.
From: Alexandre Torres Porres
To: Giulio Moro
Cc: Miller Puckette ; "pd-list@lists.iem.at"
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016, 21:10
Subject: Re: [PD] bendin bug (?)
> didn't want to cause disturbance.
please, this is no disturbance and I do
> it is a "weird" inconsistent standardI actually mean it is inconsistent with
>how the data is represented according to the MIDI standard.
> now i don't know if you're just pushing to make this point, when 3 people
>already manifested that this sounds reasonable and intuitive as well.
Signed int
As far as intuitiveness is concerned, -1 to 0.999878 is the most intuitive
range for me.Just to make a point that intuitiveness is arbitrary. I would
encourage to adopt the MIDI specifications and use those numbers [0-16383] OR a
normalized value -1 to 0.999878. -8192 to 8191 sits somewhere in
In Bela we use it, but the BeagleBone Black is single-core, so we do not run it
100% CPU because that would prevent Linux from running altogether. My upper
limit currently is "how much CPU can I use for my audio while I can still be
ssh'd into the board and nicely SIGINT the process", and that i
I believe the solution to these things lies in using Xenomai or other RT
extensions for Linux. With Xenomai you take control of the scheduler and you
can have one process taking up an entire CPU, while the Linux kernel waits ( or
uses other CPUs).
Giulio
From: Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
" or "save as" the dialog will
be run from the GUI machine so you'll see all the wrong files on offer unless
you've carefully mirrored the filesystem someho.
cheers
Miller
On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 01:01:38PM +, Giulio Moro via Pd-list wrote:
> I am re-upping this as I di
The specs don't say much about how to interpret the value actually
https://www.midi.org/specifications/item/table-1-summary-of-midi-message
"Pitch Bend Change.
status: 1110
data: 0lll 0mmm
This message is sent to indicate a change in the pitch bender (wheel or lever,
typically). T
Is this a [bendin] or a [bendout] bug?
[bendin]'s current implementation is closer to the actual MIDI messages being
transmitted.
From: Alexandre Torres Porres
To: "pd-list@lists.iem.at"
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2016, 17:26
Subject: [PD] bendin bug (?)
so, bendout takes from
I am re-upping this as I did not get any response.
From: Giulio Moro
To: Pd list
Sent: Monday, 22 August 2016, 12:33
Subject: Once again, -guiport -nogui
Hi,I dug as much as I could into past posts on this topic, like these
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-08/05
Hi,I dug as much as I could into past posts on this topic, like these
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-08/052611.html
and this https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-05/061978.html
but I yet have to find the answer to:
How do Ia) start the GUI with no DSP ?b) start th
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