Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2017-03-03 at 19:55 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-03 19:20 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > After putting deken-plugin.tcl into extra/, don't you see a message > > from Deken in the Pd-console when you start Pd?  > > >   >

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2017-03-03 at 18:55 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-03 18:36 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > > > Follow my instructions. > I did, quite carefully, didn't work as I said, I also did other stuff > that I described, and didn't work

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Alex On Fre, 2017-03-03 at 18:19 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-03 17:32 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > > > No, you just need to put it into a search path of Pd. If your goal > > is > > to test whether the most recent change works (

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 20:22 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-02 19:17 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig : > > > > for starters, you could just follow the instructions on > >    https://github.com/pure-data/deken/#download > I had done that, but downloading deken-plugin.tcl to my Pd

Re: [PD] comport - right outlet outputs only '-1'

2017-03-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2017-03-03 at 08:35 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Roman Haefeli > wrote: >   > >  * Wouldn't it be good if there'd be some 'report' message that > > would  > >    trigger a dump of the current inner state, like

[PD] comport - right outlet outputs only '-1'

2017-03-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I was about to create a Deken package of comport, but realized, there are some behaviors I don't understand. I do have some patches that indicate the right outlet of comport did once output some sensible messages, like 'open 1' when the connection is established and 'open 0' when the conn

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 18:26 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-02 18:08 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > > > I'm confused. You wrote above sentence. Don't know what you meant. > haha, I'm even arguing to myself then! It's that on the

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 17:51 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2017-03-02 17:20 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > > > > > since the suer/global folders aren't created (anymore), > > > > From what I remember, they have never been auto-created.  > the use

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 16:43 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-03-01 19:07 GMT-03:00 : > > > > there is it will suggest to install there. > > if that folder does not exist (or is not writable), it will try > > ~/pd-externals. > > and so on. > so, the order deken searches seem to be

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 15:38 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-03-02 15:11, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > On Don, 2017-03-02 at 14:47 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > > > > > > https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/140 > > What

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 14:47 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-03-02 11:42, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > > Proposal: > > > > First time Deken is used, it asks to install to the user specific > > folder regardless whether it exists. If the user

Re: [PD] howto load and install externals tutorial

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 14:41 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-03-02 14:04, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Global: > > /usr/lib/pd-externals   (searched by Pd from package > > manager) > > /usr/local/lib/pd-externals   (searched by used-instal

Re: [PD] howto load and install externals tutorial

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 01:03 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Howdy, I worked on a howto load and install externals tutorial and > put it up in here: https://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/FrontPage > > Also find it in here https://sites.google.com/site/porres/Using%20Pd% > 20Externals.pdf?att

Re: [PD] how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files page (was Re: Linux Global folder for externals)

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-03-01 at 19:37 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2017-03-01 19:07 GMT-03:00 : > > On 03/01/2017 09:47 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > you all might be aware, but you that deken still installs it in > > the > > > deprecated  '~/pd-externals' path? > > > > no, deken insta

Re: [PD] multiple zexy v2.2.6svn in deken

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 09:28 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-03-02 03:57, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > Howdy, there are two versions of v2.2.6svn from the same date and > > everything and for all operating systems. Can't see any difference > > from > > them... > > > > Only on

Re: [PD] Different versions of iemguts library in Deken

2017-03-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-03-02 at 09:25 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-03-02 03:49, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > but I think it would make much more sense to put these libraries > > there with > > their actual version number. > thank you for volunteering in finding out the actual versio

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
I totally forgot about [sndfiler]. It's actually a threaded version of [soundfiler]. http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html Roman On Die, 2017-02-28 at 17:05 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Die, 2017-02-28 at 12:37 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > 2017-

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2017-02-28 at 12:37 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2017-02-28 9:41 GMT-03:00 José Rafael Subía Valdez l.com>: > > > > If anyone has another idea > > > I still think an external is a good/better idea, but looks like it's > just me...  Why do you think that? I, too, believe an ex

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 18:06 +, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Thank you Lucas and Ingo, > > well. I do need to load a lot of samples if I want them preloaded. > Regarding the ram post that you sent, as I understand, that is > exactly what table does, as it stores it in RAM (am I right?) >

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 23:13 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 02/27/2017 11:04 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > well, [table] stores the samples as floating point (taking 4 > > > bytes > > > per > > > sample; and

Re: [PD] soundfiler alternative?

2017-02-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 21:10 +0100, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: > On 02/27/2017 07:06 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > > > > Thank you Lucas and Ingo, > > > > well. I do need to load a lot of samples if I want them preloaded. > > Regarding the ram post that you sent, as I understand, that is > > e

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-23 at 15:41 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > It's just really hard on the eyes and makes it really hard to read > any text because bold was never intended to be the "regular" default > font... no font in the world was designed to be used as bold by > default... or italic...

Re: [PD] pduino/firmata trouble? (Rick Snow)

2017-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-23 at 15:32 +0100, Björn Eriksson wrote: >  > The Pduino version you did Roman, with less dependencies, was that > released the ordinary ways No. > - and might it even be searchable through Deken?  If so... what to > look for? No. I haven't touched it for quite a while. Back the

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-23 at 11:55 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > anyhow, i agree that all GUIs of Pd should consistently use the > > same > > **bold** font. > I thought the agreement was to go for normal font in all systems, > which is also how it goes for Extended/Purr Data Citation please.

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 14:06 -0700, Dan Wilcox wrote: > In the source code for Pd, I have also changed the default font > weight to “normal”, so there shouldn’t be a need for the bold > version. I have to fix the Windows build to be able to see it for > myself next, though. Isn't changing the font

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 18:56 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > > > > > > > No, that's not a workable solution, even if it might seem to work > > for > > you. Since TCP is a stream oriented protocol and doesn't have any > > notion of packets, you need to implement some mechanism to delimit > > packet

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 11:57 +0100, oliver wrote: > is it better to open more than one port (or is it a socket ?) for > this  > purpose or will that make things worse ? I don't think that opening more than one socket has any positive impact on data throughput or latency. I'd stick with one connecti

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 15:41 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > mrpeach/net should block less than the built-in object, but in theory > it > might still block when spinning up to many threads. > also mrpeach/net is prone to race-conditions, where one sending > thread > can overtake another sending

Re: [PD] netsend/netreceive questions ...

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 15:16 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > > > > maybe it's better to use [OSC] for the latter and [netsend] for > > single  > > floats (f.e. to send a time-synch message) ? > OSC is just a way to format your data and is independend from the > actual protocol you use for transmitti

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 11:56 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-22 09:05, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > If we find good font metrics, I'll submit a fix to the NSIS > > installer > > script, so that installing DejaVu is part of the Pd installation >

Re: [PD] pduino/firmata trouble? (Rick Snow)

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
Sorry, fogot to post the link: https://github.com/reduzent/pduino On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 09:34 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Son, 2017-02-19 at 12:27 +0100, Björn Eriksson wrote: > > > > Hello list! > > I experience also problems coming now and then whith different >

Re: [PD] Pd-Vanilla & OSC Bundle

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-22 at 09:26 +0100, Jérôme Abel wrote: > Hi list, > > I succeed in sending UDP messages to an ESP8266 (Wifi Module with  > Arduino IDE) with Pd-Vanilla [netsend -u]. But if I would like to > send  > OSC messages, I have to use [ [, sendtyped /led i $1, ] < message > with  > [packOSC

Re: [PD] pduino/firmata trouble? (Rick Snow)

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Son, 2017-02-19 at 12:27 +0100, Björn Eriksson wrote: > Hello list! > I experience also problems coming now and then whith different > firmata together with pduino. > Are there by chance any updated info on this, on how to have the > latest pduino communicate at it´s best with what Firmata somew

Re: [PD] soundfiler features

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2017-02-21 at 11:01 +, Ed Kelly via Pd-list wrote: >  > Since this information is contained within the header of each file > (although it's a pain with the different formats), would it not be > sensible to have a second outlet in soundfiler that delivers the > number of channels, before

Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.

2017-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2017-02-21 at 19:33 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Ok, seems we have yet another thread to keep discussing a same topic > that I kinda started. Anyway, if the focus of the debate has changed > indeed, I suggest changing the thread name and adding (was: "" <= > old thread subjec

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2017-02-17 at 21:51 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >  > > it's trivial to create those folders (deken did that in the past), > but > it has been consciously disabled. I disagree. I don't find it a conscious decision. > i would like to avoid going through that discussion *again*. Sorry

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fre, 2017-02-17 at 10:34 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >  > what deken does *not* do, is to automatically create any of the > standard > search paths for you (in case they don't exist). > this has been discussed at great lengths on this very list, and i > don't > think that this will change.

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 15:31 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 15:18, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > > if you want to change the size of the Pd-menu, you have to look > > somewhere else... > it seems like that slightly too high menu on X11 is just the way > tcl/tk > creates menus

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 16:14 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > > certa

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Thanks for the clarification, especially for menubarsize. It all makes a bit more sense to me now. Roman On Don, 2017-02-16 at 15:18 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 14:39, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Here`s the backup: > > > > line 306 > > > > # some platforms have a men

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:39 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Here`s the backup: > > line 306 > > # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them >             set ::menubarsize 0 >             # Tk handles the window placement differently on each >             # platform. With X11

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:57 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Or try 0 "cero" I tried negative values and zero, too: No effect. I commented out the line (pd-gui.tcl:307): set ::menubarsize 19 and there is no error nor any change in the GUI. It seems this line is obsolete. (?) Roman signature.

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:42 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Line 351 > > > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > > > ? > Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Line 351 > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > ? Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on Linux when editing the value for x11 window system (it is already configured to 19, but resulting height is 30px). Is it o

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:56 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Hey all > > > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different > > platforms, > > I noticed that menus are quite different. O

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:50 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu > > > without the > > user having to install it first? > > > > Yes, > > > > https://lists.puredata.info/piperm

[PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too large.  Can this be made consistent across platforms, too? Roman signature.as

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 10:09 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > >Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without > the > user having to install it first?  > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html Yes, I actually saw it, but there was some co

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 21:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 10:16 -0700, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > I went ahead and created a wiki page: https://github.com/pure-data/ > > pu > > re-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-&-comparisons >

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 10:16 -0700, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > I went ahead and created a wiki page: https://github.com/pure-data/pu > re-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-&-comparisons > > You can post pictures there and write in Markdown. It should be > publicly editable. Thanks for creating the

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 11:05 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: >  > On Die, 2017-02-14 at 22:46 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > >  > > extract “pd-gui.tcl” and overwrite your existing one on the Tcl > > folder. > Done. >  > I can tell so much yet: Your pd-gui.tcl make

Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

2017-02-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I'm happy that so many people are trying to tackling the font / box size issue in vanilla now. From what I can tell, box sizes aren't even consistent within the same Linux distribution. When I switched from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04, boxes grew horizontally by one pixel per character for patch

Re: [PD] un-routable output from [text get]

2017-02-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Liam On Die, 2017-02-07 at 07:34 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I'm getting some strange behavior when reading a .txt file with [text > define], where the output from [text get] isn't routeable like a > normal list. See the attached file for an example. Do other users > experience the same thing

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 07:34 -0500, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: > > How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just > if > it is bigger or smaller than a reference value, and receive the > result > as an audio signal as well

Re: [PD] Fwd: [coll] bug

2017-01-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-01-30 at 21:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 01/30/2017 08:42 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2017-01-30 at 15:20 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > >   > > > > > > > > > > > Doing Uzi with 100k g

Re: [PD] Fwd: [coll] bug

2017-01-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-01-30 at 15:20 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:   > > Doing Uzi with 100k generated entries into coll object in Max and I > > get guaranteed crashes from these on both 6 and 7. > > > well, I tested opening a file with 300k entries in Max 7 and got no > audio crash/choke... it loa

Re: [PD] Metroplus

2017-01-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-01-26 at 16:51 +0100, Michael Karr wrote: > Hi guys! > > I'm trying to feed a sequence of about 30,000 values in milliseconds > to the metroplus object... I'm tried using tabread, but I can't get > it > to bang all the values into the metroplus, is there some way to do > that? What i

Re: [PD] iemnet/tcpserver too sloooooow

2017-01-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Rolf On Die, 2017-01-17 at 17:28 +0100, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > thanks Roman for your explanation. > > -question: is [iemnet/tcpserver] packaged in Pd-extended also > threaded? I think so, but I am not sure. It definitely uses an old version of iemnet. > because that one (on the mac) gives a

Re: [PD] [line] discontinuity

2017-01-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 09:46 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-01-15 22:58, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > > I can't understand what is wrong... if you 'stop' a line~ and then > > later > > give it a new target, it ramps form the position it had stoped > > at.  I think > > this is the most

Re: [PD] iemnet/tcpserver too sloooooow

2017-01-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-01-12 at 14:46 +0100, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > i'm sending data using tcpserver & tcpclient over wifi with a router > in  > a local network. > the source patch sends 6 bytes and then waits until > a single byte comes back that signals the next 6 bytes can be sent. > in total 3538 data re

Re: [PD] [line] discontinuity

2017-01-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-01-09 at 17:59 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > Is this an intended design? > I think so  This seems odd to me. Once you hit 'stop', there is no way to avoid a jump. The point of using a ramp generator is exactly to avoid jumps. I only noticed now that [line~ ] continues from

Re: [PD] "AIFF floating-point file format unavailable"

2017-01-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-01-09 at 01:41 -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > when trying to write an aiff in soundfiler with the -bytes 4 flag I > get: AIFF floating-point file format unavailable > > I just wanna be sure, is this a restriction of AIFF format or Pd? This article: https://en.wikipedia.org/

[PD] [line] discontinuity

2017-01-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I found that a 'stop' message to [line]  doesn't make it store the current position. A subsequent ' ' message starts from the last targeted position instead of the position when the 'stop' message occurred. Is this an intended design? See attached patch that tries to illustrate the behav

Re: [PD] Graphical envelope generator with breakpoints

2017-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Liam & Fred Jan Thanks for your suggestions. On Son, 2017-01-08 at 13:06 +0100, Fred Jan Kraan wrote: > Fred Jan > > On 08-01-17 12:39, Liam Goodacre wrote: > > > > There is [envgen] from the ggee library, but you're probably > > looking for > > a Vanilla solution. External is fine. Thanks

[PD] Graphical envelope generator with breakpoints

2017-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I'm wondering if someone implemented a graphical envelope generator with mouse-draggable breakpoints. I think it probably could be done using data structures, however my stumbling block is that I can't think of a way to disallow point movement to x(n) > x(n+1), respectively x(n) < x(n-1).

Re: [PD] GUI plugins questions

2016-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 10:02 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2016-12-06 09:17, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > I'm considering making a GUI plugin part of distributable Pd > > project. > > Now, I wonder if: > > > >   * a GUI plugin from t

Re: [PD] knob (again)

2016-12-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-12-08 at 04:54 -0500, Billy Stiltner wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Lucas Cordiviola om> wrote: > > > > >[l2s] and [tabdump] belong to zexy  > > > > > > > last time i checked zexy/tabdump is not getting the 0th table element I can't confirm this. Tested with zexy

[PD] GUI plugins questions

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I'm considering making a GUI plugin part of distributable Pd project. Now, I wonder if:   * a GUI plugin from the project's path instead of a Pd's standard     search path.   * there is way for the main patch to communicate with the GUI plugin.     I'd like to allow some configurations t

Re: [PD] maxlib arraycopy

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 18:48 +, Ed Kelly via Pd-list wrote: > Does anyone have a better way of copying chunks from one array into > another? Is there a vanilla way? Checkout help for new [array] class. There is [array get ] for retrieving part of or whole array as a list. With [array set ] you

[PD] Pd-0.47.1 on macOS 10.11.6 hangs after quitting

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all My colleague installed Pd-0.47.1 on his MacBook (10.11.6) and it hangs after quitting. The problem only occurs when DSP is turned on or has been turned on in the past. When DSP never has been turned on since launch of Pd, Pd quits without issues. When Pd is forcefully quit through apple m

Re: [PD] Control external command from Pd

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 14:01 +0100, Jack wrote: > OK, i see now. > > For me, the best option is to do a bash script "myscript.bash" : > > while read line > do > echo "$line" > done < <(ping netpd.org & echo $!) > > > Then with pd : > > [bash myscript.bash( > > > > > [shell] > > You shoul

Re: [PD] Control external command from Pd

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 11:29 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > * Roman Haefeli [2016-12-01 10:52]: > > > > Hey all > > > > I would like to use Pd to start and stop several instances of a > > certain > > command. I need to catch the stdout of the commands in Pd, so

Re: [PD] Control external command from Pd

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 11:37 +0100, Jack wrote: > Le 01/12/2016 à 11:30, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 11:09 +0100, Jack wrote: > > > > > > Hello Roman, > > > > > > Did you try : > > > > > > [comman

Re: [PD] Control external command from Pd

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
extra script (I thought I had to because of the dollar sign). However, the problem remains: When I send 'command' to background, [shell] won't output its stdout to the left outlet anymore. Roman > Le 01/12/2016 à 10:52, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > Hey all > >

[PD] Control external command from Pd

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all I would like to use Pd to start and stop several instances of a certain command. I need to catch the stdout of the commands in Pd, so I can monitor their status. Also, I want to be able to kill them individually. I tried to achieve that with [ggee/shell], but there are some culprits.  Wh

Re: [PD] [pdconv16_r] Topic idea: Nested lists

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 21:58 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > Hey all > > > > > After watching "Future Pd Developments" round-table (thanks to > everyone > involved for the effort to record/put online), I feel like poking > some > more into the structured list idea. Some of the conclusions that

Re: [PD] [pdconv16_r] Topic idea: Nested lists

2016-12-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2016-11-29 at 11:56 +0800, Chris McCormick wrote: > Hi Roman, > > On 29/11/16 05:36, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > As far as I can see it, it is currently impossible to pass a > > variable > > number of arguments to child objects and also [list args] woul

Re: [PD] [pdconv16_r] Topic idea: Nested lists

2016-11-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
to child objects. That's why I came up with the idea of nesting lists. Actually, I'm interested in a more sophisticated mechanism for argument inheritance. Comments? Roman On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 13:53 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > How can Pure Data's capabilities for dealing wi

Re: [PD] Results from PdCon round-table / workbench

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hile > technical problems were being solved. > > Katja. > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Roman Haefeli > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > Greetings to all of you who had the pleasure to attend this year's > > Pd- > > Con. > >

[PD] Results from PdCon round-table / workbench

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Greetings to all of you who had the pleasure to attend this year's Pd- Con. I'm interested to know about the outcomes of the following meetings:  * Workbench: building pd and libraries  * Open Roundtable on Future Pd Developments Are there any written/recorded remnants of those sessions?

Re: [PD] convert signal to 16bit stream

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
legant > upsampling), the correct order is in attachment. I see, thanks. I had the order exactly the opposite way. I gather that with nested reblocked subpatches the deepest subpatch needs to be triggered last. Roman > Le 23/11/2016 à 10:59, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > H

Re: [PD] convert signal to 16bit stream

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 11:18 +0100, cyrille henry wrote: > just few comment : > - [<~] in patrice patch is not vanilla. True (didn't notice since I had zexy loaded). > - the patch with it's 6 different and simultaneous conversions use > about 1% of my CPU. why do you need to optimise? I don't nee

Re: [PD] [delwrite~], or "what Pd operations are/should be realtime?"

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 10:48 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2016-11-22 17:29, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > there is a clear method for the delay line in pd-l2ork, > > undocumented, > > but there, not sure how it is done, > implementing the "clear" is trivial. > > however, afaiu t

Re: [PD] convert signal to 16bit stream

2016-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
ead~. > it is easy to populate the table with the value you want. > > sorry, i don't have time to provide a patch. > > cheers > Cyrille > > > Le 07/11/2016 à 16:24, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > Hi all > > > > In order to store audio data more

Re: [PD] dsp issues

2016-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-11-10 at 23:14 -0600, Austin Lemmons wrote: > [...] > > I'm also getting the "no method for 'bang'" message any time I try to > use a bang in patches that had previously worked.  I doubt that the same patch previously worked and suddenly triggers an error without you having modified

Re: [PD] convert signal to 16bit stream

2016-11-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
istake in message > computing No, you're right. The message based reference is already wrapping over. I added a [clip -32768 32767] to avoid that.  See attachment. Roman > Le 07/11/2016 à 16:24, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > Hi all > > > > In order to st

[PD] convert signal to 16bit stream

2016-11-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all In order to store audio data more efficiently in netpd presets and also to transmit live audio through OSC, I'm thinking of ways to convert an signal to a 16-bit stream represented as two signals, one for each byte, the first for MSB and the second for LSB. I already came up with a few solu

Re: [PD] [pdconv16_r] Topic idea: Nested lists

2016-10-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
How can Pure Data's capabilities for dealing with different data sets be extended? Does it make sense to adopt concepts from scripted languages to the dataflow paradigm? Examples: tuples, dictionaries, multi-dimensional arrays, [...] PROPOSAL: Syntax for nesting lists so that lists can be organize

Re: [PD] offline calculations with tilde objects?

2016-10-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-10-19 at 10:42 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: > > Is "0 logical time" and "good efficiency" at the same time possible > > somehow? > > you almost found the solution. > > you need to use the bang feature of the block~ object to compute one > (huge) block in 0 logical time. It seems it w

Re: [PD] raspberry pi 3 with noob Gem does not work

2016-10-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-10-19 at 11:43 +0200, Csaba Láng wrote: > Dear list, > > just got my pi 3 and tried to install 0.47.1, however under the links > on the page of Mr. Puckette, I can compile only 0.46.2 > Anyway, after installing deken and trying to get Gem, it is more or > less downloaded, but most of

Re: [PD] offline calculations with tilde objects?

2016-10-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2016-10-19 at 10:42 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: > > Le 19/10/2016 à 10:30, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > Hey all > > > > When doing calculations on a large set of numbers, it's for obvious > > reasons much faster to do with tilde objects tha

[PD] offline calculations with tilde objects?

2016-10-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all When doing calculations on a large set of numbers, it's for obvious reasons much faster to do with tilde objects than doing it in message domain with some until loop. Doing calculations on an array with dsp objects has the disadvantage that they're tied to sampling rate and cannot be done

Re: [PD] Latency compensation

2016-10-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
ulated latency a configuration parameter, so that when you fire Pd up the next time with the same setup, the patch remembers the latency. Roman > Am Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2016 schrieb Roman Haefeli : > > Hi all,  > > > > I'm currently investigating audio latency compens

Re: [PD] deken: cannot unzip iemnet for w32

2016-10-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Rolf On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 16:38 +0200, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > iemnet-v0.2.1~git20151118-(Windows-i386-32)-externals.zip > > this version tells me i don't have perrmission to unzip. > > the other: iemnet-v0.0.extended-(Windows-i386-32)-externals.zip > gives no problem. It was me who uploaded

Re: [PD] Purr Data beta 2

2016-10-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 09:13 -0400, Matt Barber wrote: > Thank you. /usr/local always seems iffy to me, but this is after > years in linux making sure to make packages to install any software > via package manager. /usr/local [1] is exactly meant for _local_ installations that do not interfere with

[PD] Latency compensation

2016-10-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all,  I'm currently investigating audio latency compensation in Pd. The goal is for recorded audio to align well with generated sounds timing-wise. I'm wondering now what methods people already have employed in order to achieve that goal. So far, I was able to find the formulas to calculate th

Re: [PD] Meta Data in a PD file

2016-10-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2016-10-06 at 16:39 +0100, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > I dont know if it has been discussed, I have searched the archives > but didnt find anything simliar. > > would there be a way to write a META DATA section at the end of a .pd > file? > I guess this is more of a request. But what

Re: [PD] no audio in pd-vanilla UBUNTU 16.04

2016-10-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 15:52 +0100, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote: > Hello list,  > > I need a bit of help with the latest vanilla (0.47.1) in ubuntu 16.04 > I have compiled from source but I can't seem to get the audio > working. > I have Ubuntu in my Macbook Pro (mid 2010) and I have followed th

Re: [PD] [Gem] Using [text2d] in single buffer mode

2016-09-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2016-09-15 at 23:52 +0200, Jack wrote: > Le 15/09/2016 à 20:58, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > On Don, 2016-09-15 at 18:45 +0200, Jack wrote: > > > > > > Hello Roman, > > > > > > First, you should try with [text3d] instead of [tex

Re: [PD] [Gem] Using [text2d] in single buffer mode

2016-09-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
hing in zero logical time or at least in some deterministic way when using single buffer mode. Roman > Le 15/09/2016 à 17:58, Roman Haefeli a écrit : > > > > Hey all > > > > I'm working on patch that displays a lot (30 lines, 76 chars per > > line) >

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