>
>
> > I'd argue that more time has been spent writing emails on this issue
> than it would take for each person to take one external, make a fat build,
> and upload to deken.
>
I'll still take quite some time to get ready to compile for M1 by updating
my OS and XCode, and I don't have an apple
On 3/30/22 17:30, Dan Wilcox wrote:
How many externals are there, really?
there's a total of 146 externals that have macOS binaries (of any form).
of these, there are 10 externals that provide M1 binaries.
I'd argue that more time has been spent writing emails on this issue than it
would
On 30.03.2022 17:43, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I would add instructions on running the app under Rosetta for older
externals. I would *not* start providing separate builds.
Agreed.
Forcing Rosetta is also something extensively documented online and on
Apple's own website:
I would add instructions on running the app under Rosetta for older externals.
I would *not* start providing separate builds.
Forcing Rosetta is also something extensively documented online and on Apple's
own website:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211861
let's do it.
On Mar 30, 2022, at 3:13 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:24:02 +0200
From: Christof Ressi
To: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
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> On Mar 30, 2022, at 4:54 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> Guess what? A few minutes later I wrote this, I got this email message "I'm
> writing because I'm using a new computer with an M1 processor and I don't
> seem to be able to open your library anymore with Pd 0.52.2 "
>
> So,
This will not be solved by providing two separate binaries because people with
an ARM processor will download the ARM version nevertheless.
I would say compiling the libraries for ARM is the way to go ;-)
Best!
Edwin
On 30 Mar 2022, at 16:55, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Em qua., 30 de
022, at 3:13 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:24:02 +0200
> From: Christof Ressi mailto:i...@christofressi.com>>
> To: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
>
I guess you've proven your point :-)
On 30.03.2022 16:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Em qua., 30 de mar. de 2022 às 10:12, Alexandre Torres Porres
escreveu:
Not long ago, we had separate Vanilla binaries for i386 / x86_64
mac builds in Miller's site. There was a consideration
Em qua., 30 de mar. de 2022 às 10:12, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> Not long ago, we had separate Vanilla binaries for i386 / x86_64 mac
> builds in Miller's site. There was a consideration that the 'i386' was
> there to run 'old i386 externals'. I think something like
, 30 Mar 2022 02:06:39 -0300
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres
> To: Christof Ressi
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
> Message-ID:
>
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> Em ter., 29 de mar. de 2022 ?s 11
Now *I* am utterly confused.
now people seem to all agree that it was much better way back then.
I think everybody agrees that there should be an ARM64 binary for macOS.
The question is just whether it should be the default on M1 machines
when there are so few ARM64 externals for macOS
ists.iem.at wrote:
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> To: Christof Ressi mailto:i...@christofressi.com>>
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@
On 3/29/22 16:10, Christof Ressi wrote:
If you have an apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the arm code
and then it will only find and load 'arm64' externals?
From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good
idea to provide universal binaries at this point and we
Em ter., 29 de mar. de 2022 às 11:12, Christof Ressi
escreveu:
> From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good idea
> to provide universal binaries at this point and we should rather ship
> seperate binaries. Once most externals are available as universal binaries,
> we
Ah right, as Edwin wrote, you can also right-click on the application, choose
Get Info, the check Open in Rosetta to force running as x86_64 on M1 macs.
However, as Phil notes, this means Pd is running under arch emulation and will
be slower, so this is more of a temporary workaround until you
it works the same as *any* existing application that is compiled for multiple
architectures: it uses the current system architecture but default. If you
want, you can force an architecture via using "arch" on the command line:
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From: Christof Ressi
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 re
If you have an apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the arm code
and then it will only find and load 'arm64' externals?
From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good
idea to provide universal binaries at this point and we should rather
ship seperate binaries. Once most
Em seg., 28 de mar. de 2022 às 07:17, Dan Wilcox
escreveu:
> Howdy Miller,
>
> the macOS 10.10+ build is working fine and supports both x86_64 & arm64. I
> think you can remove the link to my previous 0.52-1 arm64-only build on the
> download page.
>
Great to know that, so let me see if I get
7 Mar 2022 21:56:46 -0700
> From: Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <mailto:pd-annou...@lists.iem.at>>
> To: pd-annou...@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-annou...@lists.iem.at>
> Cc: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>
> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 releas
Yay!
Em seg., 28 de mar. de 2022 às 02:21, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
> To Pd-announce:
>
> Pd version 0.52-2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data .
>
> cheers
> Miller
To Pd-announce:
Pd version 0.52-2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data .
cheers
Miller
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