Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 11:45 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > And now - this sounds a bit crazy - while testing the scheduling_fix > build, the official releases (0.53-1, 0.52-2, etc.) didn't exhibit > the > high CPU usage anymore. Later, after some more testing, it happened > again though, but not

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-05 Thread Christof Ressi
so probably what I describe is here is not directly related. That's what I tried to say in my last mail. My scheduler fixes - which happen to fix the callback issues - are held back for Pd 0.54. Christof On 05.02.2023 21:36, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2023-02-04 at 18:15 -0800, Miller

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2023-02-04 at 18:15 -0800, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > OK, I've uploaded the fix (I hope correctly) to > msp.ucsd.edu/software.html, > as "0.53-2test1".  If that seems to work for everyone I'll rename it > "0.53-2". > This build does not fix the high CPU usage of the 'pd'

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-05 Thread info
Thanks a lot for testing!>  Will test again with Miller's "0.53-2test1" (that should beequivalent to my scheduling_fix build) and report back.Millers bug fix release only contains the portaudio update. My scheduler fixes will (hopefully) be included in Pd 0.54.ChristofAm 05.02.2023 11:45 schrieb

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2023-02-04 at 11:32 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > The callbacks option has always been broken in some way or another. > > Please try my scheduler_fix branch: > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756. It would be great > to > get some feedback on this. Personally, I have been

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Theron Trowbridge
Works for me Thanks! -Theron ^ On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 6:15 PM Miller Puckette wrote: > OK, I've uploaded the fix (I hope correctly) to msp.ucsd.edu/software.html > , > as "0.53-2test1". If that seems to work for everyone I'll rename it > "0.53-2". > > Thanks to all the help from several

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, I've uploaded the fix (I hope correctly) to msp.ucsd.edu/software.html, as "0.53-2test1". If that seems to work for everyone I'll rename it "0.53-2". Thanks to all the help from several people (and to the portaudio folks!) Miller On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 03:09:21PM -0800, Theron Trowbridge

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Theron Trowbridge
It works on my Mac Mini M1 (upgraded to Ventura 13.2 last night) as well. The callbacks setting doesn't seem to have any obvious effect, but I didn't do anything too crazy with it. Thanks for all the troubleshooting on this, it's a big help for me right now! -Theron ^ On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Feb 4, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Denis Połeć wrote: > > As far as I can tell, everything is going smoothly with the callback > settings. > However, I still haven't quite understood what it is for. There was some discussion, maybe a year ago, about changing the name of this option and finding

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Denis Połeć
-arm64-pa1970.zip> >>>>> >>>>> It is for arm64 (Apple Silicon) and has Portaudio v19.7.0. I tried >>>>> Miller's build and saw the same "unknown API" print on macOS 11. This >>>>> build seems to work fine for me so, hopefully, it

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Christof Ressi
Are there situations when using callbacks (on CoreAudio) bring any benefit? With "callbacks" enabled, Pd runs directly on the audio thread. Generally, this is not really recommended because Pd itself is not realtime safe. Many operations block for an indeterminate amount of time, e.g. any

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Christof Ressi
The callbacks option has always been broken in some way or another. Please try my scheduler_fix branch: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1756. It would be great to get some feedback on this. Personally, I have been successfully using it on Windows for a few months, but I didn't

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
t;>> build seems to work fine for me so, hopefully, it will for you. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 7:20 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at >>>>> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2023-02-04 at 10:04 +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Do you have callbacks enabled? If so, disable the checkbox in the > audio dialog. So what's the deal with Callbacks on CoreAudio/macOS? On all the combinations of Pd version and macOS version I tried, funny things happen with callbacks

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Christof Ressi
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:08 -0800 From: Theron Trowbridge To: Miller Puckette Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" Subject: Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mac Mini M1, Ventura 13.1 It works better in some ways

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
gt;> work fine for me so, hopefully, it will for you. >>> >>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 7:20 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:08 -0800 >>>> From: Theron Trowbridge >&

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Denis Połeć
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:08 -0800 >>> From: Theron Trowbridge >> <mailto:theron.trowbri...@gmail.com>> >>> To: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> >>> Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>&qu

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-03 Thread hans w. koch
@gmail.com>> >> To: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> >> Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" >> mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> >> Subject: Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. >> Message-ID: >> > <mailt

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-02 Thread Theron Trowbridge
eb 1, 2023, at 7:20 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:08 -0800 >> From: Theron Trowbridge >> To: Miller Puckette >> Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" >> Subject: Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. >

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-02 Thread Dan Wilcox
ists.iem.at >> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 22:12:08 -0800 >> From: Theron Trowbridge > <mailto:theron.trowbri...@gmail.com>> >> To: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> >> Cc:

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-02 Thread Theron Trowbridge
t; To: Miller Puckette > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > Subject: Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mac Mini M1, Ventura 13.1 > > It works better in some ways - the windows close and things q

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-02 Thread Dan Wilcox
kette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" > mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. > Message-ID: ><mailto:CAD+3VoPwLt5CT=aS5oz95b0Bb=5dwnft+jgw5z3tduqk+q4...@ma

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2023-01-30 at 20:03 +0100, Denis Połeć wrote: > > Does anyone else experience this issue? I have access to macOS 10.14.6 and I experience issues with CoreAudio, too (none with JACK, though). > I have tried older versions, but I am getting the same result. Me too: 0.53-1, 0.52-2,

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Theron Trowbridge
> > > > with. He accidentally upgraded to Ventura and since then has been > unable to > > > > quit Pd using Pd menu/Quit or command-Q. It's the only reason I > haven't > > > > upgraded to macOS 13! > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
collaborating > > > > > with. He accidentally upgraded to Ventura and since then has been > > unable to > > > > > quit Pd using Pd menu/Quit or command-Q. It's the only reason I > > haven't > > > > > upgraded to macOS 13! > > >

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ook running > > >> Monterrey and Pd 0.53-1. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From: *Pd-list on behalf of Denis Połeć < > > >> denis.po...@gmail.com> > > >> *Date: *Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM > > >> *To: *pd

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
> > >> I cannot reproduce it by disabling/enabling DSP on an M1 Macbook running > >> Monterrey and Pd 0.53-1. > >> > >> > >> > >> *From: *Pd-list on behalf of Denis Połeć < > >> denis.po...@gmail.com> > >> *Date: *Monday, J

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-30 Thread Theron Trowbridge
*Date: *Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM >> *To: *pd-list@lists.iem.at >> *Subject: *[PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. >> >> Hello everyone, >> I am experiencing an issue with Pure Data (0.53-1) on macOS Ventura >> (13.2) running on an Apple Silicon machine.

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-30 Thread William Brent
on behalf of Denis Połeć < > denis.po...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM > *To: *pd-list@lists.iem.at > *Subject: *[PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. > > Hello everyone, > I am experiencing an issue with Pure Data (0.53-1) on macOS Ventura (13.2) >

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-30 Thread Phil Stone
I cannot reproduce it by disabling/enabling DSP on an M1 Macbook running Monterrey and Pd 0.53-1. From: Pd-list on behalf of Denis Połeć Date: Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes. Hello everyone, I am experiencing an issue

[PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-30 Thread Denis Połeć
Hello everyone, I am experiencing an issue with Pure Data (0.53-1) on macOS Ventura (13.2) running on an Apple Silicon machine. Whenever I make changes to some of the DSP settings, such as disabling and enabling it again, the application freezes and I have to force close it. This also causes my