Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-17 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 16/03/18 00:30, Derek Kwan wrote: Derek Kwan writes: oliver writes: even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal, are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ? no chance to at least hack a personal version of a tcl file to make them thin again ? i for one like th

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-16 Thread Dan Wilcox
(Changing back to the right subject line). Here's a technical peace offering, separate inlet & outlet height defines: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/328 In my mind, we could change these defines to canvas variables in the future ala

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread rolfm
and here a picture showing Pd-extended besides Vanilla 48.1 rolf___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread rolfm
it's also that the object box has become smaller and the text more compressed. the attached picture shows the 48.1 box upon the 48.0 box. rolf___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listin

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Derek Kwan
Derek Kwan writes: > oliver writes: > >> even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal, >> are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ? >> >> no chance to at least hack a personal version of a tcl file to make >> them thin again ? >> >> i for one like the slimmer inlets wa

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Derek Kwan
oliver writes: > even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal, > are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ? > > no chance to at least hack a personal version of a tcl file to make > them thin again ? > > i for one like the slimmer inlets way better. I suppose I'm in

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
my problem with the update, as expressed in that pull request discussion, is that letters like "g", "p", "y" have less room and kinda touch outlets. I guess in order to avoid it we'd need the object to have another pixel of room at the bottom. But other than that, I like the new design 2018-03-15

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
It got in with this merged Pull Request https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227 2018-03-15 16:10 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > I'm unaware inlet/outlets grew... I'll have a look and see what's up. I > don't think there's any reason for them to have chanced. > > cheers > Miller > > On Thu

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm unaware inlet/outlets grew... I'll have a look and see what's up. I don't think there's any reason for them to have chanced. cheers Miller On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 02:15:03PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > What's hard on my eyes so bad that hurts down to my soul is the *BOLD* font >

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
What's hard on my eyes so bad that hurts down to my soul is the *BOLD* font as a default, specially for texts like in this image you sent. But I really can't see/feel any issue with this change. 2018-03-15 11:22 GMT-03:00 oliver : > > has really nobody else experienced this ? > yup > is this j

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread oliver
Antoine Rousseau wrote: moreover, I think Dan took inlet/outlet's height back from pd-extended's one, allowing (in a possible future) to draw control/signal differently, as it was on pd-extended: "empty" signal inlet/outlet. yeah, definitely looks very "extended-ish" even if "uniform renderin

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Antoine Rousseau
font is now DejaVu Sans Mono. > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2018 um 16:10 Uhr > > Von: oliver > > An: "pd-l...@mail.iem.at" > > Betreff: Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ... > > > > Liam Goodacre wrote: > > > I had noticed t

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1

2018-03-15 Thread jlistshit
I notice something similar on Mac, maybe not as drastic as on Windows, however, personally i also favor the old, thinner style. jayrope - - - www.jayrope.com www.aircushionfinish.com www.ello.co/jayrope On 15 Mar 2018, at 15:23, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > has really nobody else exp

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Christof Ressi
treff: Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ... > > Liam Goodacre wrote: > > I had noticed this too, and also find it mildly irritating. > > > > I think that the oversized outlets existed on Windows before 0.48. > > i joined PD vanilla with version 0.46 and i

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread oliver
Liam Goodacre wrote: I had noticed this too, and also find it mildly irritating. I think that the oversized outlets existed on Windows before 0.48. i joined PD vanilla with version 0.46 and i'm pretty sure they didn't. at least not on my machine(s). (my screenshots show the difference between

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Liam Goodacre
] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ... Hey Oliver, remember that you can also "stretch" objects, that might be helpful. cheers On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:22 PM, oliver mailto:oli...@klingt.org>> wrote: > hi, this is on windows 7 / 64bit, PD 0.48.1 after upda

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread José Rafael Subía Valdez
Hey Oliver, remember that you can also "stretch" objects, that might be helpful. cheers On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:22 PM, oliver wrote: > > hi, > >> >> this is on windows 7 / 64bit, PD 0.48.1 >> >> >> >> after updating from 0.48.0 to 0.48.1, the thickness of all object >> and me

Re: [PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2018-03-15 8:24 GMT-03:00 oliver : > hi, > > this is on windows 7 / 64bit, PD 0.48.1 > > > > after updating from 0.48.0 to 0.48.1, the thickness of all object and > message inlets/outlets has increased by 1 pixel (see attached image). > > this may not sound like much, but when opening heavy patche

[PD] bigger inlet/outlet size in 0.48.1 ...

2018-03-15 Thread oliver
hi, this is on windows 7 / 64bit, PD 0.48.1 after updating from 0.48.0 to 0.48.1, the thickness of all object and message inlets/outlets has increased by 1 pixel (see attached image). this may not sound like much, but when opening heavy patches it gets very irritating on the eye. is there