RE: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Ewins
>Who still processes their own B&W negs? Yep, 35mm, 120 and 4x5. I've just about finished setting up the new darkroom and want to give the recently acquired Jobo and Beseler a go. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia

Two new Pentax products to be announced today

2004-02-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
Keep your eyes open. Dario

The official digital camera of the internet

2004-02-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_current.cfm

Replacing the Focusing Screen in ZX-L

2004-02-11 Thread Greg Lovern
I heard that someone was able to put the ZX-M's focusing screen (which has split-image and microprism) in an AF ZX-series body (who's focusing screen does not have split-image or microprism), and it worked fine and didn't affect metering. I'd like to do the same with my ZX-L. Yes, I understand tha

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Bill Owens
I get prints that suit me just fine up to 8x10 with even the Optio S. I guess I need to try something larger than 8x12 with the *ist D. I really don't give a rat's a** about the "megapixel equivalent of 35mm" as long as I'm happy with what I hang on the wall. It also seems that most clients of w

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
I'd believe that. Presumably it also depends on the lens and precision of focus. - Original Message - From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:05 PM Subject: Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm > Depends on the emulsion. A fine gra

Re: A question about the Mz-S...

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
You can, I for one don't usually find it that convenient. At 02:13 AM 2/12/04, you wrote: In that case why not use exposure compensation? ;-) - Original Message - From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: A questi

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
What if I only wanted to "the scan to resemble direct digital image capture" and not to scan film grain? - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm > On 12 Feb 200

Re: A question about the Mz-S...

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
In that case why not use exposure compensation? ;-) - Original Message - From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: A question about the Mz-S... > Kinda, but Manual Control is all about disagreeing with the camera

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
Actually they put out a number of numbers... The most ridicules was that 6mp was equal to 35mm mostly because that was the resolution they offered on their picture disk product. (That was before they offered the 14mp DSLR). At 01:05 AM 2/12/04, you wrote: The old value Kodak put out before any

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
I prefer something more amusing but lingering, having to do with either melted lead or boiling oil. I suppose you could still use them for ballast after the lead though... At 12:38 AM 2/12/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" Subject: Re: film vs digital for history

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread John Francis
> > On 12 Feb 2004 at 13:18, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote: > > > I am sure this question has been asked before but what would be the > > megapixel equivalent of a 35mm colour slide? I have heard about 9 > > megapixels. Anyone know any better? > > It's all in the interpretation, if you would like the

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
Depends on the emulsion. A fine grained film was about 28mp while a course grain film might be 6mp. If you scan it's limited by your scanner. At 12:18 AM 2/12/04, you wrote: I am sure this question has been asked before but what would be the megapixel equivalent of a 35mm colour slide? I have he

Re: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
You know I would have thought the rabbit ears would give him a better reception... At 10:50 PM 2/11/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Photo.net down? > Just the usual drivel. I try not to encourage him. Maybe if we all ignore > him, he'll go aw

Re: A question about the Mz-S...

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
Kinda, but Manual Control is all about disagreeing with the camera's estimation of the light conditions. At 10:04 PM 2/11/04, you wrote: I don't own a MZ-S but I can't see what all the fuss is about. Can't you can change the speed/aperture to any desired value by simply turning the thumbwheel? -

RE: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
Hmm.. 5400 dpi is appr. equal to a 5400 pixels on the short side of a negative (1 inch = 24mm). This means a neg would be 5400 x 8100 pixels = 43,7 MP. I once calculated, that if a lens can resolve 100 linepairs/mm (equivalent to 3 pixel/mm - black-white black)), you'll have to scan the neg to appr

Re: Megabucksfor Megapixels

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
Here in Perth there is a 'a local CR Kennedy to walk into' and in fact I have done so on a number of occasions - twice for warranty work, and a number of times to purchase bits and pieces when I was getting no joy from the retailers. They are very helpful and it's great to cut out the middleman.

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread John Francis
> > So, why do people feel they have to justify digital. > Regardless of anyone's feelings about it, it's just a > camera, a tool for a job, for the hobbyist or family snap > shooter something that gives one pleasure, maybe makes > getting final prints easier or faster. I don't get the need > fo

Re: Megabucksfor Megapixels

2004-02-11 Thread Ryan Lee
If only there were 'a local CR Kennedy' to walk into- they're just the distributor.. A tidy looking memo, though, sent by courier to strike a *ist D and a 16-45 lens off inventory to be used as a commercial sample, insert address, insert Kennedy, might obfuscate staffers and I dare say has an actu

RE: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
I my world, it's not absolutely necasary to justify the spending of money in the neighbourhood of three weeks wages (after taxes) - but it's a very good idea, when it's about buying something that I can easily do without. Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
14mp does sound intuitively correct. 9mp seem a bit too low and 39mp seems way too high. - Original Message - From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: megapixel equivalent of 35mm > The old value Kodak put out befo

Re: Megabucksfor Megapixels

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
Just walk into your local CR Kennedy, tell them your name (with a knowing look ;-) and ask for a 'special' deal. - Original Message - From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: Megabucksfor Megapixels > I am(unfortunately)no

Re: IstD software upgrade

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
I've just done it from http://www.pentaxusa.com/products/cameras/istd/istd_fw_110.htm It was easy, if a bit nerve-racking, and the camera now works a treat with my M75-150 f4 (which has been professionally modified for matrix and spot metering). It's no drama having the press the 'green' button t

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
I do. I wish I had a place set up _just_ to process film though. I just hate bathroom and kitchen sink processing. At 01:49 PM 2/11/04, you wrote: Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal while watching the Roy Orbison "B&W Nigh

megapixel equivalent of 35mm

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
I am sure this question has been asked before but what would be the megapixel equivalent of a 35mm colour slide? I have heard about 9 megapixels. Anyone know any better?

Re: When did did zooms come as a standard lens option?

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
I don't own one yet but I really really want one. (I have for years but...) At 01:07 PM 2/11/04, you wrote: A question I have wanted to ask for a while. When I first bought my MXs 20 years + ago, the choice offered was simple; a camera body or a 50mm lens option (or whatever lens you wanted). Som

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
No, excuse, I was tired. But what other use is there for politicians of any stripe. At 12:02 PM 2/11/04, you wrote: Sheesh, Peter ... I was just emphasizing your point. Peter Alling wrote: > > Shel, It was just an example of film saving an image of an event the importance > of which isn't realiz

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Dalal
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So, why do people feel they have to justify digital. > Regardless of anyone's feelings about it, it's just a > camera, a tool for a job, for the hobbyist or family snap > shooter something that gives one pleasure, maybe makes > getting final prints easi

Re: taxi in motion

2004-02-11 Thread David Mann
On Feb 11, 2004, at 23:38, Alan Kerr wrote: Just paid a ticket from one yesterday. Are you sure they do a shot of the rear. They all seemed to be aimed at oncoming traffic especially the ones in the back of vans. I have heard before they shoot front and back but the way they are set up facing o

Re: OT: Fast B&W Film

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
I understand the tricks, thanks for the suggestions everyone, still I unless I finish the roll of film in one session, I'm more than likely to forget that I've been out foxing the meter. At 11:24 AM 2/11/04, you wrote: Peter Alling wrote: > > The T Max should probably be rated closer to 1000. It be

Re: OT:Were back and a test

2004-02-11 Thread wendy beard
At 06:55 PM 11/02/2004, you wrote: We gonna do a TOPDML soon? cheers, frank Make it next Thursday and I'll come along :- ) Looks like I might be in the neighbourhood. Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! BD> Didn't sound like a rant, just common sense. Another way to state it, BD> is if you don't shoot more than 140 rolls of film per year, then BD> a DSLR is probably not cost justifiable. There are certainly other BD> features about that one might want to consider, but on the money/value BD>

Re: IstD software upgrade

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Alling
I know it's available at the Pentax USA site. Probably other Locations Pentax sites as well. Try www.pentax.com and pick the link of your choice. At 11:05 AM 2/11/04, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote: I recall reading that the a software upgrade was available for the istD so that the 'green' button can b

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread wendy beard
At 10:09 PM 11/02/2004, you wrote: We've never had to justify film. I shot some film on the weekend. William Robb I shot two rolls of film yesterday. Only 20 shots altogether, mind! Big difference between the 90 I rattled off on the digital in a couple of hours today. Hopefully they'll be a lit

Re: Xtol with Coltrane

2004-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Music really makes developing and printing a smooth and pleasant experience. Have you heard Coltrane/Ellington ... nice ;- shel John Munro wrote: > > My b&w negs do better with undiluted Xtol, Wes Montgomery, John > Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Shorty Rogers, etc.. I process and > contac

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread John Mustarde
> >> Hmmm ... I don't recall long discussions about >amortizing >> the cost of film cameras. Did I miss them, or did they >just >> not happen? > They happened, sort of, but they were comparative in nature to other manufacturers rather than film-to-digital. Now since the Pentax DSLR is not the bes

Re: Xtol with Coltrane

2004-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Then my time here has been well spent ... GFY frank theriault wrote: > > Yeah, Shel's whetted my appetite for that Hartman/Coltrane disc. And for > developing, but that won't happen for a while yet...

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, why do people feel they have to justify digital. Regardless of anyone's feelings about it, it's just a camera, a tool for a job, for the hobbyist or family snap shooter something that gives one pleasure, maybe makes getting final prints easier or faster. I don't get the need for justifying th

Re: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: OT: Photo.net down? > > > > Just the usual drivel. I try not to encourage him. > Maybe if we all ignore > > him, he'll go away. > > Ignore whom? > WW Frankly, I neither know nor care.

Re: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Photo.net down? > Bill, > > Thank you for using the objective "whom" correctly. Few things bother me > more than the improper use of the subjective "who" as an object. > > congrats, > frank Yup, and they call us rednecks. w

Re: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Bill, Thank you for using the objective "whom" correctly. Few things bother me more than the improper use of the subjective "who" as an object. congrats, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Wil

RE: Xtol with Coltrane

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Yeah, Shel's whetted my appetite for that Hartman/Coltrane disc. And for developing, but that won't happen for a while yet... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Munro <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: OT: Megabucks for megapixels (Oz listers in particular)

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Feb 2004 at 18:58, graywolf wrote: > I find it interesting that the article blames the manufactures, and not he > Austrailian importers. I guess you guys don't like to admit you are cheating > each other. I am willing to bet that the cameras cost the local importer exactly > the same (subjec

Re: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: Photo.net down? > Just the usual drivel. I try not to encourage him. Maybe if we all ignore > him, he'll go away. Ignore whom? WW

Re: A question about the Mz-S...

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Feb 2004 at 11:04, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote: > I don't own a MZ-S but I can't see what all the fuss is about. Can't you > can change the speed/aperture to any desired value by simply turning the > thumbwheel? Not using a DA lens, it has no aperture ring and the MZ-S has no manual aperture c

Re: Megabucks for megapixel

2004-02-11 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
I take it you are no relation to CR Kennedy (Australian Pentax distributer)? ;-) - Original Message - From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:28 AM Subject: Megabucks for megapixel > Australia does not have an excise or import duty on c

Re: When did did zooms come as a standard lens option?

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: When did did zooms come as a standard lens option? Around here, the change seemed to happen mid 1980's, not long after autofocus became mainstream. William Robb

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #235

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #235 > OK, guys, can one of you tell me why my home-processed B&W negatives > have a grey-brown streaky film on them after photo-flo and drip or > blow-dry? Is it whatever the City of Richfield puts in my tap water >

The Wilhelm testing method. Was Re: OT: Photographic Materials

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
The problem with any extrapolated test, be it Wilhelm's method, which is decidedly harsh, or Kodak's, which is not really a longevity test at all, is that neither one really tells you anything. Wilhelms method tells you tat if you pump 450 lux into a print for 12 hours per day, it will start to f

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal > > Who still processes their own B&W negs? I am taking a bit of an enforced hiatus from it, but I will have a darkroom again. William Robb

Re: OT: Fast B&W Film

2004-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "tom" Subject: RE: OT: Fast B&W Film > > I don't think Neopan 1600 is an actual 1600 speed film, but I prefer at 1600 > the best of the 3 high speed b/w's. I recall reading somewhere that it was closer to 1250 than 1600, but as thats only a third of a stop,

RE: grey brown streaks( was: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #235)

2004-02-11 Thread Butch Black
OK, guys, can one of you tell me why my home-processed B&W negatives have a gray-brown streaky film on them after photo-flo and drip or blow-dry? Is it whatever the City of Richfield puts in my tap water to make it taste better? Is it something in the photo-flo bottle? It could be hard water. Yo

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread graywolf
An evil hearted person. But in modern usage it seems to just mean grumpy. Dennis the Menace's neighbor, Mr. Wilson, is the modern model of a curmudgeon. -- Cotty wrote: On 11/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I didn't realize I was the list curmudgeon. Is that official? My old Pocket Oxfo

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread graywolf
Seems like an old old old Pocket Oxford there, Cot. Seems like the etymology is rather confusing by this American Heritage definition. You don't usually expectt these humorous stories in your dictionary. The Word History is worth the read. curmudgeon curmudgeon (ker-mùj´en) noun An ill-tempered

RE: SMC Pentax 400/5.6

2004-02-11 Thread Bill Sawyer
Ok that's it, now I'm certain- who ARE you and what have you done with Paul??? -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 10, 2004 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:FS: SMC Pentax 400/5.6 I'm very fond of this lens, but I have to

RE: Recommend a good wide zoom lens, plz ?

2004-02-11 Thread Alan Chan
I would pick FA20-35/4AL. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I'm trying to buy a wide zoom lens, one of tokina at-x235af pro 20-35 f2.8, sigma af 2.8 20-40mm ex dg and pentax fa 20-35 f4 al. the prices of new lenses are too high. so i tried to get a used one. i got to know it takes

Re: OT: Speed Cameras

2004-02-11 Thread graywolf
They were predicting all that stuff in the 1950's. You will see them when you see people living on the moon and on mars and every home has a suitcase nuclear reactor. When 300mph monorails criss cross the country. And the bus driver does not give you the finger as he drives past you waiting at t

Re: OT: Megabucks for megapixels (Oz listers in particular)

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Loveday
Hard to say where it lies really; certainly Pentax use an importer (CR Kennedy) here. But Sony (the focus of the article), being a huge multinational company, do their own importing. I guess you could say the blame may well lie with "Sony Australia" rather than "Sony Japan", but really either way

Recommend a good wide zoom lens, plz ?

2004-02-11 Thread 인태경
I'm trying to buy a wide zoom lens, one of tokina at-x235af pro 20-35 f2.8, sigma af 2.8 20-40mm ex dg and pentax fa 20-35 f4 al. the prices of new lenses are too high. so i tried to get a used one. i got to know it takes years. is there anybody who can give brief reviews about those lenses.

Re: OT: Megabucks for megapixels (Oz listers in particular)

2004-02-11 Thread graywolf
I find it interesting that the article blames the manufactures, and not he Austrailian importers. I guess you guys don't like to admit you are cheating each other. I am willing to bet that the cameras cost the local importer exactly the same (subject to quanity discounts) in the US as they do in

RE: OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Never mind. Just got on photo.net. Ignore me (as usual) -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:

Re: MZ-S vs. *ist D

2004-02-11 Thread Nick Clark
While I lust after the *istD I get the feeling it might be just the new toy effect and I'd end up a bit deflated after a few weeks. I absolutely love the feel of my MZ-S, it's the best camera I've ever owned (even better than my first, the Ricoh XR-1) and would be a hard act to follow. I just w

Re: Megabucks for megapixels (Oz listers in particular)

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Loveday
Dang. Not that I wanted an F828, but 100% markup! If supposedly this is due to 'big brand names' carrying a heavy premium, why is the *istD still so expensive here :) These articles are so informative at times, "Smarter consumers have developed their own strategies. One Melbourne enthusiast has

RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #235

2004-02-11 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > OK, guys, can one of you tell me why my home-processed B&W > negatives have a grey-brown streaky film on them after > photo-flo and drip or blow-dry? Is it whatever the City of > Richfield puts in my tap

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I didn't realize I was the list curmudgeon. Is that >official? My old Pocket Oxford defines a curmudgeon as a 'churl or a miser'. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps ___

RE: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 11/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >I may just shoot b/w at gfm and process it myself > > Oooh, can I borrow an IS lens??? Sure, I've only got the 70-200... tv

OT B&W resource for beginners

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
Given that we are on a little B&W sojourn today may I suggest a good little B&W process/print primer for those of you that have been thinking about trying but put it off? It's easy (and really cheap if you buy the gear used), see: http://www.photographymonthly.com/samples/ACF1F.pdf (1.4MB) Chee

OT: Photo.net down?

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Been trying to get on Photo.net for about an hour and 1/2, and my computer keeps timing out on it. Just me, or is anyone else having problems? -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer ___

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #235

2004-02-11 Thread edwin
> Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: > > Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal > while watching the Roy Orbison "B&W Night" DVD. What a > pleasant experience ;-)) > > Who still processes their own B&W negs? > > > > > shel > > I do! In fact, I started doin

RE: OT: Fast B&W Film

2004-02-11 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > As I posted elsewhere, lab guy likes Neopan 1600, as the > others mentioned are really ISO 1000 films that are pushed. > He says Neopan is a true 1600, so getting it to 3200 means > only pushing it one stop. I

RE: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I may just shoot b/w at gfm and process it myself Oooh, can I borrow an IS lens??? :-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:49:20 -0800 From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal while watching the Roy Orbison "B&W Night" DVD. What a pleasant experience ;-)

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >There is a potential problem with gadgetry. It is one of "killer >application" or "killer feature". It can be that the next generation >of sensors or whatever tech there'd be then would cause many Friday FS >e-mails on this list... Or in other words, un

Re: New Sigma lens (for Pentax too ;-)

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/24_60.html >Seems like a very nice and bright wide-angle option, good addition >to 12-24 lens and DSLR with APS-sized CCD! And it takes smaller (77mm) filters than >older 24-70 (82mm) Looks nice. And it's f

Re: OT: Fast B&W Film

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Feb 2004 at 18:10, frank theriault wrote: > As I posted elsewhere, lab guy likes Neopan 1600, as the others mentioned > are really ISO 1000 films that are pushed. He says Neopan is a true 1600, so > getting it to 3200 means only pushing it one stop. Personally having used the lot fairly r

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Yup. That's the joke. LOL -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah Frank, you can GFY ... it's 3:09 here now.

RE: OT:Were back and a test

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Dave, Look back into the archives, for the threads with the subject line "Where's Dave, We Miss Him" and find out! BTW, maybe you missed it, but Pentax just came out with a 20 meg full-frame sensor DSLR for just under $3500 Cdn. Other than that, nothing new. We gonna do a TOPDML soon? cheer

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Feb 2004 at 10:49, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: > > Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal > while watching the Roy Orbison "B&W Night" DVD. What a > pleasant experience ;-)) > > Who still processes their own B&W negs? Yep

Re: A question about the Mz-S...

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 08:28 AM 2/12/2004 +1000, you wrote: > >>Does this mean that all of these new lenses without aperture rings are >>unusable on the MZ-S? > >Useable in program and shutter priority only. Also note that "all those new lenses" is only three lenses, one of w

Re: OT: Fast B&W Film

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
That's actually what I'll likely do, Bill. The band may actually want to use some of the shots for various purposes, if they turn out. In those circumstances, consistency may be important. I wouldn't want a shot taken at the end of the night to not be considered, just because it has a way dif

Re: film vs digital for history

2004-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeah Frank, you can GFY ... it's 3:09 here now. frank theriault wrote: > > ~Nothing~ I say is ever official!I have enough trouble speaking for > myself, let alone others. > > Your post reminds me of the joke about the tourist in NYC. Did I hear that > one here? Maybe it was from you, Shel?

Re: 1600 B/w film

2004-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Frank, >From what I've seen of Neopan - I've shot and processed a few rolls as well as Delta 3200 - I prefer the way Neopan looks at EI's around 1200 - 1600. I like Delta 3200 at higher speeds, like 3200. By all means, experiment with them all at some point. It's nice to know what your "availab

Re: OT: Bus Station, Kingston, Ontario

2004-02-11 Thread frank theriault
Who is anyone to talk about composition? If it works for you, it works for you. If it doesn't , then it doesn't. I'm not a great one for over-analyzing things. I work on a gut feeling. I like it, I don't like it, or I can come in somewhere in the middle. Just don't ask me to explain it. Ma

Re: *ist-D Sensor Artifact

2004-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
How about a scratch on the protective glass over the filter? -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 2:39:15 PM, you wrote: MC> For the last few month I've been using my *ist-D to take snow crystal MC> photos. The basic rig has a 50mm macro lens (SMC M 50 f4) reverse mounted MC>

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread brooksdj
I just did some quick math on the HP 42S and it works out to about 16 rolls of film that i would be shooting at a standard horse show weekend.I do 8-10 shows a year"that are on the books" and a few that are not. So i would say i'm in the 140-160 rolls a year,plus my own personal stuff,(another15

Re: MZ-S vs. *ist D

2004-02-11 Thread John Francis
> > > > > Hi Bruce > > Very good point. > > I allready own 5 Pentax film bodies... > > I guess I was trying to convince my self, that I was't after a diggy, just > > because it's a diggy. So I made my self the point, that I was after faster > > autofocus, more focus points, and more measuring se

Re: When did did zooms come as a standard lens option?

2004-02-11 Thread brooksdj
> A question I have wanted to ask for a while. When I first bought my MXs 20 > years + ago, the choice offered was simple; a camera body or a 50mm lens > option (or whatever lens you wanted). When i bought my first K mount camera in 1997(January) (a move u

Re: amortising DSLRs

2004-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Boris, Didn't sound like a rant, just common sense. Another way to state it, is if you don't shoot more than 140 rolls of film per year, then a DSLR is probably not cost justifiable. There are certainly other features about that one might want to consider, but on the money/value front, tho

RE: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Who still processes their own B&W negs? It's been a while, but I still have a kitchen cabinet full of gear. I may just shoot b/w at gfm and process it myself...then again, I may be kidding myself. tv

Re: MZ-S vs. *ist D

2004-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jens, I had already sold off almost all my 35mm gear quite a while ago. So I started basically fresh on lens procurement for the *istD. So all my lenses are AF lenses. One thing to note, the *ist film body has the advanced AF and wireless flash operation of the MZ-S for a much smaller pri

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread graywolf
A $5 a sheet for 4x5 I figure I am paying myself between $30-$60 per hour to do it, grin. Sounds like it is kind of like knitting for you, Shel. -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal while watching

fast b/w film

2004-02-11 Thread Clive Evans
Frank [and others] So I was at "chambre noire" in Nice today [dropping a roll of Pan F 6x9!]and checked the paramters with Alain. My mistake it's Tmax 3200 not Delta 3200 pulled to 1600 [ developed in TmaX RS developer?] The guy who is shooting this book has a nice site www.damion berger.com, he

Re: MZ-S vs. *ist D

2004-02-11 Thread Bill Owens
> Hi Bruce > Very good point. > I allready own 5 Pentax film bodies... > I guess I was trying to convince my self, that I was't after a diggy, just > because it's a diggy. So I made my self the point, that I was after faster > autofocus, more focus points, and more measuring segments, compared to

Re: FA 24-90 & flash coverage

2004-02-11 Thread Familie Scheffler
Once I used the built-in flash with my MZ-5N and FA 24/2.0 to take a picture of a clockwork in an old murky tower. The result was quite good. Good enough so that I wouldn't carry a flash with me unless I know I will use it. Best Bernd original message-- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2

RE: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Rothman, Aric
I process all my B&W. (APX 100, HP5+, Tri-X, Pan-F) Sometimes I use Portra 400 B&W (lovely film), and I get that processed at the lab. Aric > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:49 PM > To: PDML > Subject: Rock 'n'

Re: MZ-S vs. *ist D

2004-02-11 Thread Bill Owens
I kept my MZ-S when I got the *ist D. The MZ-S hasn't been out of the bag since. And, if you consider the cost of film and processing, about 50-60 rolls of film will recover the difference in cost. Also, with the firmware upgrade, using K and M lenses is really no different than using AV on th

Re: When did did zooms come as a standard lens option?

2004-02-11 Thread b_rubenstein
Early 1980's. The first "standard" zooms were variable aperture 35-70's. AE made it much easier to use variable aperture lenses. Mfg's were able to offer zooms that were only a little bigger and heavier than 50mm primes. They were bought by amateur shooters. This was the era when makers were try

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I still process my own BW, although I don't shoot as much of it as I once did. Still use D-76 1:1 for most films. T-Max Developer for Ilford 3200 or TMZ3200. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: > > Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodi

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Chris Murray
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Just to add a little diversity to the threads here: > > Last night I processed a few rolls of APX 100 in Rodinal > while watching the Roy Orbison "B&W Night" DVD. What a > pleasant experience ;-)) > > Who still processes their own B&W negs? > > she

Re: Rock 'n' Roll with Rodinal

2004-02-11 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi Shel, Last night for me was the turn of a Tri-X roll, developed in XTol, 9' at 19°C. A tiny bit thin, but should print well. I should have given priority to a Delta 3200 that is waiting a bit too much. Maybe tonight... I absolutely have to print too, there are several rolls still without contac

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