Re: PESO: Sunrise at Haleakalaa

2008-09-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, those are the real colors. Before sunset it is incredibly dark, with many stars clearly visible. As the sun nears the horizon, the sky lightens, turning a very deep blue, then it lightens as the sun pops above the horizon and begins to rise rapidly. Remember, this was taken from the

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely shot. Nice pose and good dress details. What are you doing around Sept/Oct 2010.:-), although Steady is closer.g Dave On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been quite a while, so I thought I would post a recent shot from one of my weddings.

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. Now you just need a hard place and your all set. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/facepainter.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Had a few moments and did the test. Score of 24 on my Samsung SyncMaster 753df, CRT moniotor, Spyder I version. Had some bars in the yellow, purple and light green areas. Dave On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Maxime Thériault
Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Maxime Thériault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. I don't know. It does make a difference for prints at this end. Your eyes are better

Re: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Good angle on this one. Just enough of the back of her, and all of her face in the mirror. Good job. Dave On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/facepainter.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank --

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. How old are you? :-) ann (71, got 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug

Re: OT - Cerne Giant's Second Coming

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
So while we were setting up the colonies over here, you guys were marking out a giant guy in chalk on a hillside? What is that? A giant warning that we have a bunch of randy bastards around here? Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Maxime Thériault
24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ Maxime Thériault wrote: Does

Re: OT - Cerne Giant's Second Coming

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
I knew sheep farmers had something to do with this. Dave On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/7618064.stm You can see his head and club more clearly and see him coming down the hill -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Calibration matters when you want to match printer output to what you see on the screen, or when you want to make sure that images you deliver to clients are color accurate. In terms of this test, it doesn't matter because you're identifying color shift between samples. And even if the

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Many thanks, Derby. Glad you liked it. I do agree that soft focus is very easy to overdo. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 1:13:49 AM, you wrote: DC Bruce Dayton wrote: It has been quite a while, so I thought I would post a recent shot from one of my weddings. The Soft

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). Bawk bawk bawk bawk BAKK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Paul, Yup, I shoot raw. I have for a long time. This pose was one frame in a series of shots with other poses. I metered with an incident meter to get the correct exposure so it needed almost no corrections. Thanks for taking a look. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16,

Metering With Expanded Dynamic Range

2008-09-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
If anyone is interested, I just had the following exchange with Pentax USA concerning metering for Expanded Dynamic Range on the K20D. My original question is at the bottom. Given this answer, for EDR to work the camera must somehow anticipate how the histogram will distribute even before

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Jack, your comments are really appreciated. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 6:10:34 AM, you wrote: JD Terrific, Bruce! Beautiful effect. JD Including the deep red roses (and tiara) absolutely nailed it. JD Jack JD --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yeah, yeah, Michigan is a bit closer than California. You could move the wedding out here. There are some great venues and wonderful weather...grin -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 6:27:51 AM, you wrote: DJB Lovely shot. Nice pose and good dress details. DJB What are you

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Scott Loveless
Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? No, but it's a convenient excuse for people who scored poorly, and an in your face for those who did well without a calibrated monitor. Let them have their fun, please. We'll get back to doomsday discussions sooner or later. -- Scott

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Doug, Yes, Halloween is almost here. Nice one. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 5:25:59 AM, you wrote: D On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 D I got a rock. --

Re: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice shot. I can't help but wonder if some usage of color would be good. It is, after all, face painting. One thought is to select the mirror and leave the color there and then treat the rest of the scene to BW. Just a thought. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 6:35:06

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread David Savage
2008/9/17 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? No, but it's a convenient excuse for people who scored poorly, and an in your face for those who did well without a calibrated monitor. Let them have their fun, please. We'll get back to

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread ann sanfedele
I fell much better :-) ann Maxime Thériault wrote: 24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread ann sanfedele
I feel much better :-) ann Maxime Thériault wrote: 24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been quite a while, so I thought I would post a recent shot from one of my weddings. The Soft Focus lens was dialed in to just barely have an effect. Pentax K10D, F 85/2.8 Soft Focus lens ISO 200, 1/125 sec

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
That sounds like a challenge. I'll get to it sooner or later. I think. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). Bawk bawk

Re: PESO - Wolfpaw and Roger on the Job

2008-09-16 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, this is excellent, and a very unusual composition and perspective. Rick h Thanks, Rick! I appreciate your comments. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 16, 2008, at 09:00 , Paul Stenquist wrote: snip Paul (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). What time? It took less than 30 seconds a row. Pick the color on the left, move all hues with that color in them to that side, closest match first.

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Many thanks, Frank. I haven't heard the opinion of the bride or mother yet on this one. It will be interesting to see what they say. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:27:19 AM, you wrote: ft On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Bruce Dayton ft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It

Re: Metering With Expanded Dynamic Range

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think EDR just gives you a bit more room on each end of the histogram. It will record slightly more shadow detail and slightly more highlight detail. Accurate metering is obviously an advantage regardless of the dynamic range. I use EDR all the time. I haven't done any real comparisons,

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay, I did it. Took me at least five minutes. I scored 11. All of my errors were in the blue/green spectrum. Since I work largely with skin tones, I can live with that:-). Now, back to work. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Sep 16, 2008, at 09:00 , Paul

RE: Metering With Expanded Dynamic Range

2008-09-16 Thread John Celio
How does the K20D's EDR feature compare with bracketing and doing the same thing manually in Photoshop? I've never done HDR photography, but I've been meaning to try. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto Original Message Subject:

Re: Metering With Expanded Dynamic Range

2008-09-16 Thread jtainter
I think EDR just gives you a bit more room on each end of the histogram. It will record slightly more shadow detail and slightly more highlight detail. Accurate metering is obviously an advantage regardless of the dynamic range. I use EDR all the time. I haven't done any real comparisons,

RE: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread Bob W
I like that - excellent. I disagree with someone's comment about colour. The picture is not really about the facepaint, it's about the eye contact and the smile. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 16 September

Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

2008-09-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 16, 2008, at 12:28 , Paul Stenquist replied: Okay, I did it. Took me at least five minutes. I scored 11. All of my errors were in the blue/green spectrum. Since I work largely with skin tones, I can live with that:-). Now, back to work. Paul Congratulations! (I knew if I told

OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
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Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread ann sanfedele
I agree - its lovely ,Bruce -- suitably soft for that sort of thing ann Bruce Dayton wrote: Many thanks, Derby. Glad you liked it. I do agree that soft focus is very easy to overdo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread John Celio
P. J. Alling wrote: http://i33.tinypic.com/29zrgpz.jpg It's photoshopped. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Geso Photos from the Willow spring winery function

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Hi gang. Put a small dot mac page together with some of the photos from Sunday. No edits done, and i can't figure out how to rotate the verticals. Sorry. Nothing earth shattering, but you might enjoy. K10D and 360 flash Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: Geso Photos from the Willow spring winery function

2008-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Opps. Link below. http://web.mac.com/barnyardcam/iWeb/Site/Photos.html Dave On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang. Put a small dot mac page together with some of the photos from Sunday. No edits done, and i can't figure out how to rotate the

Re: OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:17 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: http://i33.tinypic.com/29zrgpz.jpg It's photoshopped. Do ya think? LMAO!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Speaking of Weddings

2008-09-16 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:43 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she does but it's hidden by her gown... Now that's just rude... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Metering With Expanded Dynamic Range

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hmmm. This dpreview article was written for the K200D, and it's from a dubious source. I may attempt a little test. The dynamic range of my K20D with EDR turned on appears to be better than that of the K10D in RAW shooting, but that my be due to the different sensor. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at

Re: OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
John Celio wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: http://i33.tinypic.com/29zrgpz.jpg It's photoshopped. John Spoilsport... -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

Re: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/facepainter.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank Story and character, beautifully framed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
This was taken from a whale watching boat in Monterey Bay recently. The sea lions sure seem to all want the same spot. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8, Handheld ISO 100, 1/250 sec @ f/3.5 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/reunion2008_0117a.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know why, but I always think seals are hilarious, so this is /very/ amusing. Bruce Dayton wrote: This was taken from a whale watching boat in Monterey Bay recently. The sea lions sure seem to all want the same spot. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8, Handheld ISO 100, 1/250 sec @ f/3.5

Re: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great shot. Nicely rendered and framed. Now that's a photo op! Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: This was taken from a whale watching boat in Monterey Bay recently. The sea lions sure seem to all want the same spot. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8, Handheld ISO 100, 1/250

Re: OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Peter, peter, peter (no pun intended:-). You need to work on your PhotoShop skills. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 4:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: http://i33.tinypic.com/29zrgpz.jpg -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML

Re: Geso Photos from the Willow spring winery function

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, Your daughter is a very pretty, Must be your wife's genes... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opps. Link below. http://web.mac.com/barnyardcam/iWeb/Site/Photos.html Dave On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL

Re: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread Jack Davis
Very well seen and deftly grabbed. Are they facing into a breeze which is carrying a sardine aroma? ;) Jack --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: OT -- But it is a picture...

2008-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't create it, I found it. This has some Photoshop modifications http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20abigail.html (not as subtle as I'd like), and so does this http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20aftertheflood.html (I cleaned up some extraneous foliage I

Re: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Love it :-) ann Bruce Dayton wrote: This was taken from a whale watching boat in Monterey Bay recently. The sea lions sure seem to all want the same spot. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8, Handheld ISO 100, 1/250 sec @ f/3.5 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/reunion2008_0117a.htm -- PDML

Re: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread Doug
On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:35 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/facepainter.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank I like this quite a bit, Frank. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Bride

2008-09-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Boy, Bruce, is that a lovely shot. You must be a well sought after wedding photog. Everything seems just right to me. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:07 AM

Re: PESO - Everybody Ridin' Shotgun

2008-09-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Just a great all around fun shot, Bruce. I never tire of shots of seals or penguins or river otters for that matter, but frankly I don't see many shots of river otters, which is a regret because I get a kick out of those silly creatures. Anyway, I love your photo of these seals. Cheers,

Re: PESO - The Facepainter

2008-09-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Lots of fun, here, Frank. I like your photo very much. Nice rendering and composition looks spot on to me. ;-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:35 AM Subject:

Re: Sunrise at Haleakalaa

2008-09-16 Thread Christine Aguila
wow, that's a helluva shot. At first I thought you colorized it somehow, then I read all the replies and, of course, realized those are natural colors to the landscape. Wow. I've never had the chance to see colors like that, but I'm not that worldly. Nice one Dan. Cheers, Christine -

Re: Geso Photos from the Willow spring winery function

2008-09-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave: Looks like it was a fun do! I send congrats and best wishes to the soon-to-be bride and groom. Dave, it looks like your daughter will make a lovely bride and he a handsome groom. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss