Re: PESO - Along the Canal

2009-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Brian, Yeah, you're right--the bridge is a bit soft. There are other shots in the series in which it is sharper, but the positions of the people along the towpath aren't as good. Compromises, compromises. I really like the 50-200. It could be sharper at the edges, for sure, but its size

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: 2009/3/18 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: 2009/3/18 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:32 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, I just spent an afternoon in the studio shooting with 4 ballet students. Man

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
Does your screen have split prism Bill? If so. Does it affect normal metering or step down metering? -- MaritimTim 2009/3/18 William Robb war...@gmail.com: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? I got a katzeye screen for

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread Christian
David Savage wrote: So here are some rough first pass edits: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0721.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0813.jpg They could do with a bit more retouching...

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread Christian
David Savage wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0721.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0813.jpg One more: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0839.jpg Ok this one

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: On 18/3/09, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg If I were the dancer and saw that you'd used a wide angle from low down making my legs look like that, I would come visit you and stick you on the end of one of

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:07 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So here are some rough first pass edits: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0721.jpg

Re: PESOs: 2 portraits

2009-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
Really like the first one. Different approach than a normal portrait. Dave On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3364429912/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3364430124/ pentax k10d fa 50 1.4 -- PDML

Re: PESO: apocalypse now (of sorts)

2009-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
Well seen. Good contrast between the grey and brown colours. Dave 2009/3/17 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3353842076/ pentax k10d, da 50-200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESOs: 2 portraits

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3364429912/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3364430124/ pentax k10d fa 50 1.4 Love 'em both. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: New K20D: Focus Indicator Lights

2009-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
How long has it been since you purchased the K20D? BH is always willing to do a replacement, and I would think can make up a body only kit if they have a body/lens kit on hand. BTW, I did finally compare my K20D and K10D, and the view of the focus screen through the viewfinder is

Re: PESO - Along the Canal

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Yesterday I finished my fourth trans-Atlantic flight in two weeks (plus a round trip from Philly to Dallas). I took a long walk, as it was a gorgeous early spring day in Oxford.  My route took me along the canal that

Re: PESOs: 2 portraits

2009-03-18 Thread Fernando
I like the first one. Nice framing and lighting. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/17/2009 6:10:29 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, lukastr...@gmail.com  writes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3364429912/

Internet Censorship in OZ

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
I plucked this gobbet from that other forum. http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/295977/australia_internet_filter_ruled_by_single_bureaucrat William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Does your screen have split prism Bill? If so. Does it affect normal metering or step down metering? Split prism. If anything, the metering is more accurate than it was with the

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So maybe I should reconsider my original decision against Katz eye. Hm. -- MaritimTim 2009/3/18 William Robb war...@gmail.com: - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject:

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:02, Tim Øsleby wrote: Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So maybe I should reconsider my original decision against Katz eye. Hm. I read many things on DPReview from experienced and respectable

Re: PESOs: St. Paddy's Day at Dick O'Dows

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A line forms early in the afternoon of St. Paddy's Day at Dick O'Dows Pub in Birmingham, Michigan: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8771662size=lg Grace works the line a bit and scores a ring:

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
Appreciated input. Really. I liked the expression respectable dudes :-) -- MaritimTim 2009/3/18 Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:02, Tim Øsleby wrote: Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:32 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, I just spent an afternoon in the studio shooting with 4 ballet students. Man that was a hell of a lot of fun. I'm a bit pumped. No pic's to

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
You may have a point there. It is so much easier to blame the meter than to learn how to use it. -- MaritimTim 2009/3/18 William Robb war...@gmail.com: - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Thank you. There has been

Re: Internet Censorship in OZ

2009-03-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
...well, now ask the wizard to solve the issue... Serious, I really feel sad when I get the news about some folks that surrender their life to any kind of government, elected or not. Hope they find a way out the muck. Glad the censor doesn't hate Pentax - yet. LF (no, I'm not in ANY

PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait. Among the things that fascinate me are... Not only that, but I'm quite certain that she couldn't find any cheese in that

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait. Among the things that fascinate me are... Not only that,

Re: New K20D: Focus Indicator Lights

2009-03-18 Thread Matthew Montgomery
On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: How long has it been since you purchased the K20D? BH is always willing to do a replacement, and I would think can make up a body only kit if they have a body/lens kit on hand. Still have plenty of time. Only took delivery last Friday.

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread ann sanfedele
John Francis wrote: Oh, come on, Ann. I suspect the green dye is probably food colouring or hair dye, or something similar. I very much doubt it is bad for the dog. Sorry, John I was kidding abit about hiding on the holidays but seriously, there isn't anyway it couldn't at least be

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread ann sanfedele
Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:19:56PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote: i personally loathe St Patricks day... (like Halloween and New years Eve - I don't leave the apartment until it's over - I'm not kidding) So I understand the look on the vendors face :-) nice grab,

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait.  Among the things that fascinate me

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:41 AM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: snip seriously, there isn't anyway it couldn't at least be annoying to the dog... I think anyone that would do that to an animal is putting there own welfare well above the doggie's food coloring does not = benign...

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: cheers, frank (ducking head, waiting for all the he's just a dumb animal and it doesn't hurt him replies) Mr. Duckhead: You're just a dumb animal and... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: Mr. Duckhead:  You're just a dumb animal and... I can't disagree with you there... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread Charles Robinson
Now that we've discussed the humaneness of the color treatment of animals (and not really come to total agreement) I feel it's only fair to show the same dog - this time from last June's Pride Parade in Minneapolis. More controversy, I know:

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:31:16AM -0400, Christian wrote: David Savage wrote: So here are some rough first pass edits: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0721.jpg

Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Now that we've discussed the humaneness of the color treatment of animals (and not really come to total agreement) I feel it's only fair to show the same dog - this time from last June's Pride Parade in Minneapolis.

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green It might not be criminal but it is certainly not nice. I have to agree with you here, Ann. The thing about it (other than the fact that it's possibly mildly toxic as well as annoying

RE: Internet Censorship in OZ

2009-03-18 Thread Anthony Farr
Don't worry on our behalf, Luiz. The internet filters are at present only being trialed by a handful of minor ISPs. The big three ISPs, Telstra, Optusnet and iiNet, have either rubbished the concept or only want to participate in order to prove what a piece of crap the concept is. The

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51:07AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:41 AM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: snip seriously, there isn't anyway it couldn't at least be annoying to the dog... I think anyone that would do that to an animal is putting there own

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote: Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait. Among the things that fascinate me are... Not only that, but I'm quite certain that she couldn't

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:40:59AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:53, Christian wrote: frank theriault wrote: Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait. Among the things that fascinate me are... Not only

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
frank theriault wrote: Two things that fascinate me are people and their personal electronics devices and people and their dogs. And cheese. That's three, three things that fascinate me. Wait. Among the things that fascinate me are... Not only that, but I'm quite certain that she couldn't

Re: PESOs: St. Paddy's Day at Dick O'Dows

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
What Frank said. Grace's charm at work again ;) Jack --- On Wed, 3/18/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESOs: St. Paddy's Day at Dick O'Dows To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Caption: To owner; OK, Gidget has decided she's going no further without a slice of brie. OK if I drag her? ;-)) Jack --- On Wed, 3/18/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop To:

Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
http://www.depreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Many of the people over there still think that camera meters are calibrated for 18% gray just because that's what Kodak gray cards are. Funny you should mention that. I've never

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Thank you. There has been some reports about bad metering. I'm not using old lenses as much as I used to do. So maybe I should reconsider my original decision against Katz eye.

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
the dog obviously has no say, so to impose something like that on it just isn't fair, IMHO. So we should just do what our pets wants to do ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Selling

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:22, Jack Davis wrote: http://www.depreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp Corrected link: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Gee, the dogs being made to wait on a leash. I wonder what the dog really wanted to do ? ;=] Other than the wheel in the LLH corner, it a good catch ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I see. Thanks Charles. J --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: Re: Hoys Restructuring To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 10:35 AM On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:22, Jack Davis

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green the dog obviously has no say, so to impose something like that on it just isn't fair, IMHO. So we should just do what our pets wants to do ? You'd be surprised how many people try that

Re: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
He/she's obviously enjoying his new found notoriety by the smile on his face ! Glad you shot it in color. ;=] Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog Now that we've

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
A prong collar is more humane than those little monstrosities of canine abuse. And the only type of collar I found that would help me with my 110 lb. Malamute. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To:

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Got a HTTP 404 - not found. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Subject: Hoys Restructuring http://www.depreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: So we should just do what our pets wants to do ? Of course not! When did I say that? The issue is about imposing something on an animal that he had no say in. It's about imposing something on an animal for ~our~

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:27 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Many of the people over there still think that camera meters are calibrated for 18% gray just because that's

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green the dog obviously has no

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen? Many of the people over there still think that camera meters are calibrated for 18% gray just because that's what Kodak gray cards are. Funny you should mention

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop And the only type of collar I found that would help me with my 110 lb. Malamute. You do realize that Malamutes are bred A) to pull. B) to not necessarily believe that the direction the boss wants

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:50 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: So, by that logic, I assume you support all the bans on photography in public places? Nice try, but it won't work.  After all, that's imposing something (the act of being photographed) on the subjects - something in which

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM,

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop And the only type of collar I found

Re: has anyone tried optibrite with a katzeye screen?

2009-03-18 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: http://www.libraw.org/articles/zone-v-in-digital.html I've never seen this site before. An afternoon of sheer geekery awaits, and I have you to blame... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green The issue is about imposing something on an animal that he had no say in. It's about imposing something on an animal for ~our~ entertainment. It's about imposing something on an animal

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green I agree that in the spectrum of human mistreatment of animals, dying them then putting them on exhibit during a parade is not the most serious of abuses, however the fact that this dog

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Ken Waller wrote: Got a HTTP 404 - not found. Which is also what Hoya's getting when they look in the till, I guess. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
http://dpreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp Try this! Jack --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: Hoys Restructuring To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 10:47 AM

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2009 11:39:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: http://dpreview.com/news/0903/09031802hoyarestructure.asp Try this! Jack === Everyone realizes, of course, that Hoya may decide to get out of the DSLR market all together. Oops, not

Re: OT: What a shoot.

2009-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So here are some rough first pass edits: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0669.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0721.jpg http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/_DSC0813.jpg They could do with a bit more retouching... Of these three, the

Re: PESO: apocalypse now (of sorts)

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
2009/3/17 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3353842076/ Amazing photo! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: snip Sounded to me like you wanted to give the animal the choice. ;=} snip No, not at all. I realize that the animal can't choose, so we shouldn't do it. That's my point. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Caravaggio

2009-03-18 Thread Miserere
I always admired his sharpening technique. --M. 2009/3/16 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: was a photographer? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts_and_culture/7936946.stm Her argument is a bit weak,

Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2009 9:12:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charl...@visi.com writes: Now that we've discussed the humaneness of the color treatment of animals (and not really come to total agreement) I feel it's only fair to show the same dog - this time from last June's Pride

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green snip Sounded to me like you wanted to give the animal the choice. ;=} snip No, not at all. I realize that the animal can't choose, so we shouldn't do it. That's my point. What else

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2009 10:03:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, war...@gmail.com writes: They should be used in training situations only after being taught the proper way to use them, and should never be used as a regular walking collar. A prong collar is more humane than those little

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
We all fear the possibility may be right. Therefore, one mustn't utter it aloud. 8=( It's OK though if you'd care to whistle. Jack --- On Wed, 3/18/09, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: Hoys Restructuring To: pdml@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: What else should we not choose for the animal? Should we just slit open a bag of kibble and leave it for the dog to eat when he wants? Should we just let them run wild in the streets? Should we not train them? My point

Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Shouldn't do such things to an innocent helpless animal. Still too much to be learned about animal awareness.(?) Jack --- On Wed, 3/18/09, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog To:

Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Shouldn't do such things to an innocent helpless animal. Still too much to be learned about animal awareness.(?) An ally! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green Imposing our preferences on animals for matters of vanity is a far different matter IMHO. Well, that puts an end to all of the toy breeds, as they were all bred as vanity dogs. I see

Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: The long-suffering rainbow dog On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Shouldn't do such things to an innocent helpless animal. Still too much to be learned about animal awareness.(?) An

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2009 1:06:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, war...@gmail.com writes: Well, that puts an end to all of the toy breeds, as they were all bred as vanity dogs. I see you have very strong feelings on the subject, and while I am not a person to paint my dog in rainbow

Re: Internet Censorship in OZ

2009-03-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Glad to read that! I know exactly how easy it is to lose rights to the wrong government - we spent a looong time under a military dictatorship and even today some effects are being chased off our lives. Censorship would banish anything from music to child books if one of the daddys had

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
Got me curious, so googled. Dogs probably don't see red and green anyway, just shades of yellow and blue (and black and white). So the green (and rainbow) dog, may not KNOW he's colorful. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Got me curious, so googled. Dogs probably don't see red and green anyway, just shades of yellow and blue (and black and white). So the green (and rainbow) dog, may not KNOW he's colorful. On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog :) Woof! -- PDML

Re: PESO - Along the Canal

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/17/2009 3:12:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: Yesterday I finished my fourth trans-Atlantic flight in two weeks (plus a round trip from Philly to Dallas). I took a long walk, as it was a gorgeous early spring day in Oxford. My route took me

SoFoBoMo

2009-03-18 Thread Larry Colen
Think you can do better than Speck? http://www.sofobomo.org/2009/ What is SoFoBoMo? SoFoBoMo is short for Solo Photo Book Month - a group event where a bunch of photographers all make solo photo books start to finish, in 31 days, at more or less the same time. It's modeled loosely on NaNoWriMo,

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that puts an end to all of the toy breeds, as they were all bred as vanity dogs. I would agree to that. I understand that initially dogs were bred for various purposes that had to do with what they did for us: pull

Re: SoFoBoMo

2009-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2009 1:28:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Think you can do better than Speck? http://www.sofobomo.org/2009/ What is SoFoBoMo? An interesting project idea, thanks Larry. Marnie aka Doe :-) It would certainly be humbling to try

Re: ot to some extent - anyone using slide copiers do digitize 35mm stuff?

2009-03-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Thanks! I'll give it a try soon, probably with a DS camera - unless a XTi fall from the sky and survives the crash. LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: Wondering if anyone has used a digital camera plus slide copier gear to scan film stuff. I'm considering a bellows and slide copier K, and would also

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that puts an end to all of the toy breeds, as they were all bred as vanity dogs. I would agree to that.

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Sandy Harris
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: We all fear the possibility may be right. Therefore, one mustn't utter it aloud. 8=( It's OK though if you'd care to whistle. If Hoya did want out, would Samsung buy the division? -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Sandy Harris Subject: Re: Hoys Restructuring On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: We all fear the possibility may be right. Therefore, one mustn't utter it aloud. 8=( It's OK though if you'd care to whistle. If Hoya

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I've never been a man of my word when it involves shutting up... I guess neither am I... ;-) There are numerous studies that show that elderly people who keep dogs tend to live longer and are able to stay in their

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 04:26:53PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Got me curious, so googled. Dogs probably don't see red and green anyway, just shades of yellow and blue (and black and white). So the green (and rainbow) dog, may not KNOW he's colorful. On the

Re: Hoys Restructuring

2009-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Woop! Woop! Sky falling alert! Break out the hardhats and Kevlar umbrellas and stand by for further instructions! (or, just post a PESO or two...) Rick --- On Wed, 3/18/09, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Everyone realizes, of course, that Hoya may decide to get out of the

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green See? We can agree on something! Holy crap, I think the skies are parting and I see a Heavenly Host of Angels being led by a guy on a white horse with his eyes on fire and his clothes

PESO - Reduce Speed

2009-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
There are a remarkable number of derelict boats on the waterways of the UK. I don't think this one could reduce its speed any more if it wanted to: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770491size=lg Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: snip Next thing you know, Marnie will say something nice to me. Don't push your luck, Bill! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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