On 29/07/2011 22:54, Bob W wrote:
On 29/07/2011 21:35, Chris Mitchell wrote:
On 29 July 2011 18:28, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:
I think that I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree.
Perhaps, unless the billboards fall,
I'll never see a tree at all.
--- Ogden Nash
On 30/07/2011 06:00, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I see. well i hate the three pane one... and it seems to be fine I have
the index showing up in the right hand pane and the other folders
listed on the left. when I click on a message to read or when I reply
the whole screen is filled up - which is what
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was. Scorching +47C my car
showed... At least in the evening and early morning the weather was
quite pleasing...
I really like #1 and #4 - great shots. How was the London Street
Photography Exhibit? I was planning to enter it but never got round to
it.
Thanks. The exhibition is excellent - very interesting. I don't think it's
something you could enter - it's taken from the collection of the Museum of
We've had numerous first camera threads over the years, and I've said
that my first was a plastic 620-film box camera that I bought at
Erler's camera store for two dollars. I remembered what it looked like,
but couldn't recall the name. Well, I ran across a picture of it on the
web -- or one
I like it. There's a bit of irony in the power lines combining with a nice sky
to form an artful picture.
Paul
On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was.
On 30/07/11 5:32 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was. Scorching +47C my car
showed... At least in the evening and early morning the weather was
quite pleasing...
On 11-07-29 9:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
We've had numerous first camera threads over the years, and I've said that my
first was a plastic 620-film box camera that I bought at Erler's camera store for two
dollars. I remembered what it looked like, but couldn't recall the name. Well, I ran
So, they stole that Marilyn Monroe shot from you? It's nice to
actually have you first shot. Those cameras were really basic and now
look at all the features we put up with.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11-07-29 9:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Hi!
Here is a couple of photos by Galia:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/07/peso-2011-27-before-and-after.html
Be brutal and honest.
Boris
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I agree -- 1 4 -- particularly 4.
Paul
On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Bob W wrote:
I really like #1 and #4 - great shots. How was the London Street
Photography Exhibit? I was planning to enter it but never got round to
it.
Thanks. The exhibition is excellent - very interesting. I don't
Hi!
The last one for today, I hope to be able to promise :-).
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/07/peso-2011-28-sixteen-minutes-apart.html
Cheers!
Boris
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Although I read the title prior to viewing it, I was the slightest disappointed
when the Power Lines appeared. Believe I'd have preferred they be more
obvious or were non existent..perhaps(?)
Love the lighting and graduated tones, Boris.
Jack
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Boris Liberman
She's still developing that special eye.
Jack
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Galia PESO #27 - Before and after
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Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 5:05 AM
Hi!
Here is a
Nicely composed! Believe I prefer the warmth of #2.
Jack
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Boris PESO #28 - Sixteen minutes apart
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 5:08 AM
Hi!
Sounds like an really great exhibit! Nothing like getting immersed in a
really fine collection of work to get your inspiration going...
Obviously not something one would enter - I was thinking of this one
which is running this month:
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/
MCC
On
Sounds like an really great exhibit! I was thinking of this one which
is running this month:
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/
MCC
On 7/30/2011 4:04 AM, Bob W wrote:
I really like #1 and #4 - great shots. How was the London Street
Photography Exhibit? I was planning to enter it
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Mark C
Sounds like an really great exhibit! Nothing like getting immersed in a
really fine collection of work to get your inspiration going...
Obviously not something one would enter - I was thinking of this one
I hate it when those guys pop out of the ground and pull your strings.
The whole set is good, BTW. Are these all with the X100?
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Mark C
Sounds like an
I'm just a one window at a time kinda girl, sometimes I can manage 2 for
a really good reason. There is a correlation to my social life over
the years here. OR maybe because if you have spent 40 years of your life
typing letters on a single page at a time and another 20
or so on a DOS screen
I really like that - well - taht is I like the photo.. I would not like
to have been there to see it - it feels too hot!
ann
On 7/30/2011 03:32, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was.
On 7/30/2011 06:55, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-07-29 9:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
We've had numerous first camera threads over the years, and I've
said that my first was a plastic 620-film box camera that I bought at
Erler's camera store for two dollars. I remembered what it looked
like, but
Not going to be brutal with her! no need..
I'd like to see the first shot a bit darker and more saturated (no
pun...) I'm guessing she isn't doing her own photoshopping
ann
On 7/30/2011 08:05, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Here is a couple of photos by Galia:
I hate it when those guys pop out of the ground and pull your strings.
The whole set is good, BTW. Are these all with the X100?
Thanks. They're about half-and-half M8 and X100. The 6 most recent are all
M8.
B
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
From:
On 7/30/2011 08:06, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I agree -- 1 4 -- particularly 4.
Paul
YEs, me too... laughed aloud at 4
but like those no more than number 3 the bike photo... that's
just stunning as art I think.
I'd lose #2 -- doesn't quite work um geometrically...
ann
On Jul 30, 2011, at
Thunderbird is context sensitive. If there is no /All/ to reply to the
[Reply All] button doesn't appear on the message toolbar. If you open a
message with multiple recipients then that button should appear. The
funny thing is that messages from the PDML activate the [Reply List]
button,
On 7/30/2011 11:24, P. J. Alling wrote:
Thunderbird is context sensitive. If there is no /All/ to reply to the
[Reply All] button doesn't appear on the message toolbar. If you open a
message with multiple recipients then that button should appear. The
funny thing is that messages from the PDML
On 7/30/2011 08:06, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I agree -- 1 4 -- particularly 4.
Paul
YEs, me too... laughed aloud at 4
but like those no more than number 3 the bike photo... that's
just stunning as art I think.
I'd lose #2 -- doesn't quite work um geometrically...
ann
Thanks to
From: P. J. Alling
An experiment, I'm not sure if it succeeds, but I'll bet I'll be told.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20athingaslovelyasatree.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
I like the
You're guessing right, Ann. It may be time she started doing it on her
own, but it would mean I will have to think how to organize this
properly. You've brought a valuable point...
Thanks!
Boris
On 7/30/2011 17:58, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Not going to be brutal with her! no need..
I'd like to
Actually, this shot was made just before 6:00 in the morning. It was
pretty comfortable +21C at the time.
Thanks!
Boris
On 7/30/2011 17:52, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I really like that - well - taht is I like the photo.. I would not like
to have been there to see it - it feels too hot!
ann
On
Thanks, Paul!
On 7/30/2011 11:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I like it. There's a bit of irony in the power lines combining with a nice sky
to form an artful picture.
Paul
On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on
Thank you, sir!
On 7/30/2011 12:25, Philip Northeast wrote:
On 30/07/11 5:32 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was. Scorching +47C my car
showed... At least in the evening and early
Thanks, Jack. But doesn't it occur to you that that little line of light
down below in the frame is actually a power line far more powerful than
those coming across it?
Boris
On 7/30/2011 16:04, Jack Davis wrote:
Although I read the title prior to viewing it, I was the slightest
From: Ann Sanfedele
ok thunderbirders - I'm enjoying it but but when I finish reading
something I want to just hit a key once to go to the next mail without
having to close the first when I finished reading and then opening the
next...
I want to keep all the sent and inbox mail where it is
From: Christine Aguila
by Joyce Kilmer
I THINK that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may
On 7/28/2011 15:19, AlunFoto wrote:
I know flower pictures are held by some on this list to be cliché by
default. Yet it means something special to us up here in the Frostpit
these days.
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=27
Jostein
Very sad times are upon us, Jostein. You
If I get your question, I appreciate the more powerful horizontal line at the
bottom virtually to the exclusion of the actual diagonal power lines.
Did I understand your question, Boris?
Jack ;)
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Boris Liberman
I am afraid not, Jack. What I meant to indicate is that Power lines
title has more than immediate meaning of few power lines going
diagonally in the frame. The horizontal line is also a power line, and
in fact more powerful than those going diagonally - physically speaking,
of course.
Boris
Yes, I was fairly sure that was your meaning and I completely agree. So much so
that I would remove the actual overhear diagonal power lines, leaving only the
base power line.
Image is cleaner, simpler and exerts more impact without them.
Sorry for my confusing initial response.
Jack
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Two men talking about the same thing over great linguistic divide...
Thank you for your patience and explanation, Jack.
On 7/30/2011 19:43, Jack Davis wrote:
Yes, I was fairly sure that was your meaning and I completely agree. So much so
that I would remove the actual overhear diagonal power
From: Ann Sanfedele
Just one more thing _
where is the button for Reply all hiding?
didn't see a keyboard thing for that when I looked at the help.
ann
Ctrl+R = reply to sender
Ctrl+Shift+R = reply to all recipients
I believe those are the same keyboard shortcuts Netscape used. Actually,
My pleasure! Welcome back.
Jack
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Boris PESO #26 - Power lines
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 9:47 AM
Two men talking about the same
Thanks , JOhn
using F and N comfortably already B and P useful to know
really neat mail program!
ann
On 7/30/2011 12:09, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Ann Sanfedele
ok thunderbirders - I'm enjoying it but but when I finish reading
something I want to just hit a key once to go to the next mail
From: Bruce Walker
On 11-07-29 3:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
http://www.fourandsix.com/photo-tampering-history/
It seems that when the pendulum swings, it goes right on through the
wall. The largely politically motivated tampering to deceive is
unarguably bad (unarguable by *us* anyway), but
Wouldn't the waterfall you DON'T know is somewhere ahead be more of a
problem?
From: Joseph McAllister
That's great Bob!
The problem with floating downstream on acid is the waterfall you KNOW is
somewhere ahead.
On Jul 29, 2011, at 02:47 , Bob W wrote:
Relax, turn off your mind, float
It was but the K-x continued in the line at least in some places. The
K-7 is still a current product in the US but has been discontinued in
Japan for some time.
On 6/9/2011 2:36 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Did I miss something? I thought the K-r was the K-x replacement.
-p
On 6/9/2011 1:09
It's the suspense that get's me...
--Bugs Bunny.
On 7/30/2011 1:49 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Wouldn't the waterfall you DON'T know is somewhere ahead be more of a
problem?
From: Joseph McAllister
That's great Bob!
The problem with floating downstream on acid is the waterfall you
KNOW is
Nice subject composition in 'Before', the light - not so much. - a bit
harsh.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Galia PESO #27 - Before and after
Hi!
Here is a couple of photos by
Good example of the varying quality of light.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
Subject: Boris PESO #28 - Sixteen minutes apart
Hi!
The last one for today, I hope to be able to promise :-).
I believe I paid $700 or so for my 16-50, and maybe $100 more for the 50-135
The K-5, BTW, can now be found for less than $1327; $1230 is the best I've seen
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 01:23:26PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I'm surprised at how expensive the 16-50 is now. I believe it used to
Thanks for posting. What can I say, very very sad.
I was on a short holiday break and it's all over the news here. The
links Breivik makes to the netherlands is one of the hot topics...
Toine
On 28 July 2011 14:19, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
I know flower pictures are held by some on
Doesn't matter either way - you're doing acid, you can fly.
B
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
John Sessoms
Sent: 30 July 2011 18:49
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Something for the weekend
Wouldn't the waterfall you
Next, will photogs be castigated when it's discovered that their
cameras
have done hot pixel removal and replaced a truthful (though 100%
white)
pixel with a new lying pond-scum average of the surrounding pixels?
that's not a valid comparison with removing / airbrushing a political
PJ works under very strict protocols regarding editing pictures. They
make sure that they don't tolerate any appearance of misconduct and
when it is found, they react like they do as a message to others.
Basic corrections are already allowed, contrast, levels, etc. You
cannot materially change
Precisely.
But your can't be sure until the roar is behind you!
On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:55 , Bob W wrote:
Doesn't matter either way - you're doing acid, you can fly.
B
John Sessoms
Sent: 30 July 2011 18:49
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Something for the weekend
Wouldn't the
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20110730225549
I don't make duotones every day and it was interesting discovery for
duotone tab on my favorite raw converter - ufraw v0.18. In channel mixer
mode you can select weight of each color channel to resulting duotones,
thus changing sky color to such
A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke. ~Rudyard Kipling
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Christine Aguila
by Joyce Kilmer
I THINK that I shall never see
A poem
Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5991541211
BW
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5992099066
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Hard to not be prone to prefer anything in Yosemite in other than BW. Ansel
is. of course, to blame for that. Actually, in this case I see no clear choice.
When were you there, Larry? Have more stuff?
Jack
--- On Sat, 7/30/11, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
From: Larry Colen
I like the color version better. The bit of blue sky really sets off
the rock come alive.
Dan
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5991541211
BW
BW, but only if you can get a greater dynamic range.
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Colen
Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2011 8:35 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Color or Black White
I like the BW version, but you lose the light tones in the stone with
the conversion that you've used in this version.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5991541211
BW
It's a beautiful rendering and either will do just fine.
On 7/30/2011 6:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5991541211
BW
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5992099066
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On 29/07/2011 9:54 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
That's great Bob!
The problem with floating downstream on acid is the waterfall you KNOW is
somewhere ahead.
Acid took a lot of planning. Otherwise, it was yer basic clusterfuck.
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Hi Gang,
Anybody got a suggestion for an printable focus chart that can be found online.
I need to check the DA*16-50mm.
Thanks.
-Brendan
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On 30/07/2011 8:03 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
Hi Gang,
Anybody got a suggestion for an printable focus chart that can be found online.
I need to check the DA*16-50mm.
Actually, I think focus charts are both a waste of time and effort, and
are practically guaranteed to give a false result.
If
I make my own. Just a series of lines, spaced at about 3/8 inch and printed in
high resolution on a 13 x 19 piece of paper with a central focus point. I shoot
it wide open off a tripod at a 45 degree angle. Works well. With the DA* 16-50
you'll also want to check for a flat focus filed. Do
On 30/07/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Off a tripod of course and squared off.
And how does one square off?
Here's a little formulae that works for squaring off.
Remember this: 3-4-5.
A triangle that is 3 units on one side, 4 units on the second, and 5
units on the third has to have a
On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Hard to not be prone to prefer anything in Yosemite in other than BW.
I kind of got lost in that one. Do you usually prefer color or bw for
Yosemite?
Ansel is. of course, to blame for that. Actually, in this case I see no clear
choice.
On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:54 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's a beautiful rendering and either will do just fine.
Thanks. I'm not even sure that it's a shot that I meant to take. It's quite
possible I meant to crop in tight and only show part of half dome, but even if
not, I rather liked the way
Mark, kind of. . .
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Subject: Re: OT: Something for the weekend
On
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 04:19:46PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
When were you there [in Yosemite], Larry? Have more stuff?
Jack
We were there yesterday. I called him up at the end of last week and
suggeated a quick trip to Yosemite, as the warm weather and the heavy
snowpack were combining to
On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:27 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 04:19:46PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
When were you there [in Yosemite], Larry? Have more stuff?
Jack
We were there yesterday. I called him up at the end of last week and
suggeated a quick trip to Yosemite, as the
Love it, Paul! And I do remember you posting this previously. Cheers,
Christine
On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
We've had numerous first camera threads over the years, and I've said that
my first was a plastic 620-film box camera that I bought at Erler's camera
store
Tough one, Larry--but I think I'll go with the color rendering. Lovely shot.
Cheers, Christine
On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5991541211
BW
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5992099066
--
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Wow! Quite a difference between the two. I prefer the warmer one, Boris.
Cheers, Christine
On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
The last one for today, I hope to be able to promise :-).
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/07/peso-2011-28-sixteen-minutes-apart.html
Very nice, Boris. Cheers, Christine
On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hello.
I should hereby inform you that I scored the absolute record on my car
thermometer this week. Hula valley it was. Scorching +47C my car showed... At
least in the evening and early morning the
Cute--playful concept. Cheers, Christine
On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Here is a couple of photos by Galia:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/07/peso-2011-27-before-and-after.html
Be brutal and honest.
Boris
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well those landscape shots are all well and good but I like the little
ground squirrel the best :-)
http://www.jfwaf.com/Yosemite/image.php?name=Yosemite_15
And the rattler, too - just getting him in that pose... would love to
see you work on that image a bit to bring out his face ..
Now I
I was able to sneak in some photography at the beach today--didn't have much
time, but had some fun anyway. Darrel prefers the traditional rendering. This
the first chance I've had to fool around with Lightroom 3, and I'll just say
wow! Lots of new filter settings to play with. I like'em.
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:00:50AM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
well those landscape shots are all well and good but I like the
little ground squirrel the best :-)
http://www.jfwaf.com/Yosemite/image.php?name=Yosemite_15
Larry has a shot of the little guy, too, in a slightly better pose.
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