RE: look at this

2012-08-12 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > jn289 > > I guess we are all screwed > > > > http://comsecllc.blogspot.com/2012/06/insect-spy-drone-already-in- > production.html > they'll all get eaten by starlings. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.

Re: PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
That's a fine shot, Larry. And, at 1/5 sec. with a long lens, it's downright impressive. -- Walt On 8/12/2012 7:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: And just because I'm the sort of person who will hand hold (leaning against a pillar) a 1/5 second photo with a telephoto lens at 2:30 AM, just because I

Re: PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread William Robb
On 12/08/2012 6:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: And just because I'm the sort of person who will hand hold (leaning against a pillar) a 1/5 second photo with a telephoto lens at 2:30 AM, just because I like a challenge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7769849298/ I always wished they had put

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
Don't get me wrong. I hate lots of people beyond the realms of the PDML. -- Walt On 8/12/2012 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are going to have to stop the love-in (hate-in?) before I puke. This is the most treacly exchange I think I've ever seen here. Wheatfield, we need y

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
You guys are going to have to stop the love-in (hate-in?) before I puke. This is the most treacly exchange I think I've ever seen here. Wheatfield, we need your ascerbic wit right about now... ;-) Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christophe

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Wow! That is one sharp Promaster! Nice images of a tough subject. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Sunday, Aug

RE: look at this

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I was screwed way before these things. Btw, what happens when I swat it like a real mosquito? cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: jn289 Sent: August 12, 2012 8/12/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subjec

RE: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Funny, one of the goals I set this morning when I left he house heading down to the Lake was to catch a dragonfly. Didn't happen. I saw exactly two, both flying, neither landing. Mostly the Lake was a bust so I put the 18-55mm on and headed into town to have modest success on the street. But I

Re: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Now, that's a wing! Like this unique perspective. Flawlessly done, Paul..as usual. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ From: Paul Stenquist To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Actually I didn't get wet. It rained while I was at a coffee shop but had just stopped before I left. Thanks for the nice words about the photo. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Col

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Paul is right, Mark: That's Lakeshore Boulevard in Toronto. Actually it's just west of Toronto proper in the old suburb of New Toronto. As it approaches Toronto it does get wider. I think it eventually becomes a six or eight lane divided roadway. But in New Toronto it's our main street with sho

RE: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Great photo, Paul. I remember seeing a few of them (and Superbirds) around town as a car-crazy kid (I was around 13). They looked like spaceships! Captured beautifully by you. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Origi

Re: look at this

2012-08-12 Thread Jeffery Smith
G! He used a double-negative in the descrption. Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On Aug 12, 2012, at 21:42, jn289 wrote: > I guess we are all screwed > > > > http://comsecllc.blogspot.com/2012/06/insect-spy-drone-already-in-production.html > > -- > PDML P

look at this

2012-08-12 Thread jn289
I guess we are all screwed http://comsecllc.blogspot.com/2012/06/insect-spy-drone-already-in-production.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directio

RE: PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love Miatas. And that photo. So pretty! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen Sent: August 12, 2012 8/12/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO Miata And just because I'

RE: GESO moonrise

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The first one is my fave. It just works. Wonderful! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen Sent: August 12, 2012 8/12/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: GESO moonrise Unfo

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I'm not going to continue arguing Dan. I doubt very much that I'm going to change your mind on this issue and I know that you won't change mine. As a parting shot however, let me just say that if everyone lived by your last sentence we would never have progress. We would just keep on going wit

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Mark C
On 8/12/2012 8:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Those are terrific. I'd love to know your strategy for getting these (dragonflies don't seem to care to pose for long, around here). They are all wonderful, but I love the composition of this one in particular: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 8/12/2012 8:17 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Gee, Walt. I think that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. I know people who have endured YEARS on the PDML and yet never succeeded in earning anyone's seething hatred towards them. I'm honored to have it so early in my tenure here and acknowle

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There have been plans like that for 50 years or more. There is a big difference between plans and actual implementation. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > There are plans that eliminate fossil and nuclear: >

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Excellent portfolio! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Mark C wrote: > A few macro photos from late July and early today: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php > > or > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/s

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
Gee, Walt. I think that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. I know people who have endured YEARS on the PDML and yet never succeeded in earning anyone's seething hatred towards them. I'm honored to have it so early in my tenure here and acknowledged by someone with your chops. : ) : ) :

Re: Mini-GESO: Silhouettes (3 images)

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
I noticed that detail you're talking about -- especially around the bird's eye. I just wasn't sure whether I'd be detracting from the image by overdoing it on the post-processing. But, now that you mention it, I suppose it is a little distracting. Thanks for the input! -- Walt On 8/12/2012 1

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 8/12/2012 8:08 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I would be thrilled to get shots like this, they are rare to even see around here and yours are technically excellent. Thanks for sharing them! Thank you, Darren! I feel the same way about your weather-related landscapes. In fact, I'm not even supposed

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
I would be thrilled to get shots like this, they are rare to even see around here and yours are technically excellent. Thanks for sharing them! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directl

Re: GESO - Gateway Arch In Infrared

2012-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
It took me a while to assimilate what I was looking at in the first shot also, but even then it makes a fascinating architectural abstract. Brilliant idea to shoot this in IR! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDM

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thanks, Dan. From what I gather, having the red dye may be useful in initially attracting them to a feeder, simply because they seem to be drawn to the bright color. But, once they've established the feeder as their own, the color is just extraneous. -- Walt On 8/12/2012 1:04 PM, Daniel J.

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Rick. I was lamenting the presence of the feeder in the photos just the other night, and how I wish I could find a better, or more natural-looking kind of feeder to attract them. I hadn't thought about baiting actual flowers. I'll see what I can come up with. Thanks for the idea!

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Stunning shots, Mark. Amazing colours. Those IR arches shots are quite fabulous too. I must have missed your post on these. Wonderful compositions. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Mark C wrote: > A few macro photos from late July and early today: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/inde

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 12, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Fabulous. They really sparkle. That would be vampire flies. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, plea

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fabulous. They really sparkle. Paul On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Mark C wrote: > A few macro photos from late July and early today: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php > > or > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/summer-dragonflies > > Mark > > -- > PDML Pent

Re: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
You are correct. I'm a bit punchy after three days on the tarmac. Still backing up some 1200 pics. Paul On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:52 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > the dodge daytonas were 1969 models and the plymouth superbirds were 1970s. > > - > J.C.O'Connell > hifis...@gate.net > -

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
Those are terrific. I'd love to know your strategy for getting these (dragonflies don't seem to care to pose for long, around here). They are all wonderful, but I love the composition of this one in particular: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2012/IMGP2076_L.jpg -- PDM

Re: PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Yeah, I like it. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > I'm starting to embrace noise. ;-) It has a great mood to it. > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> And just because I'm the sort of person who will hand hold (leaning against >> a pillar) a 1/5

Re: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Back from my three-day marathon shoot at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus, > Ohio. Two days of rain. Good weather only this morning, but managed to shoot > enough cars, some in the gloom. > > Among the 1000 or more cars were several perfect

RE: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread J.C. O'Connell
the dodge daytonas were 1969 models and the plymouth superbirds were 1970s. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:12 PM T

Re: GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 12, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Mark C wrote: > A few macro photos from late July and early today: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php Very nice! > > or > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/summer-dragonflies > > Mark > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great pic, Frank. Love this one. Mark, It's Lakeshore in Toronto, not Chicago. But I didn't know you were an RU alumnus. Likewise here/ Class of '71. I was a commuter student and used to park in the garage on Wabash and Congress. Paul On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Mark C wrote: > On 8/11/2012

GESO - Summer Dragonflies

2012-08-12 Thread Mark C
A few macro photos from late July and early today: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php or http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/summer-dragonflies Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

On photographing people (part 1)

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
For those who'd like to try but feel they can't, and for those who've tried with mixed success, read this article ... http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2012/08/on-photographing-people-pt-1.html Excellent advice and suggestions from Sara Lando. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread Mark C
On 8/11/2012 9:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a rainy night. Okay, ask. Taking photos, I guess. That's my answer, and I'm sticking to it: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/lakeshore-boulevard-1-am.html Hope you enjoy.

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 12, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > I also like this one: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762486298/in/photostream/ Thanks. > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Technically, I completely blew this shot. It was ISO 16,000, and in the low

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 11, 2012, at 6:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a > rainy night. > > Okay, ask. Taking photos, I guess. And getting wet? > > That's my answer, and I'm sticking to it: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/lakes

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
I also like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762486298/in/photostream/ On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Technically, I completely blew this shot. It was ISO 16,000, and in the low > light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is even

Re: PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm starting to embrace noise. ;-) It has a great mood to it. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > And just because I'm the sort of person who will hand hold (leaning against a > pillar) a 1/5 second photo with a telephoto lens at 2:30 AM, just because I > like a challenge: >

Re: PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like it a lot. That's an unusual angle and it works pretty well and really shows the nature of that car. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Back from my three-day marathon shoot at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus, > Ohio. Two days of rain. Good weather only this morning,

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
There are plans that eliminate fossil and nuclear: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-path-to-sustainable-energy-by-2030 Problems? Sure, but at the very least it would cut back dramatically on fossil and nuclear. These guys aren't just some nut jobs; these are some realistic pro

PESO: Flawlessly Flawed

2012-08-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Back from my three-day marathon shoot at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus, Ohio. Two days of rain. Good weather only this morning, but managed to shoot enough cars, some in the gloom. Among the 1000 or more cars were several perfectly restored 1971 Dodge Daytonas. I shot two of them for the mag

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
Thanks Mark. On Aug 12, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Aug 11, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> >>> Yeah, it's a pretty neat shot. >> >> Thanks. It's kind of cool what you can get when you screw up, and then >> pretend that's what you meant t

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: >> >>> I really like that a lot. I love the clasped hands in the foreground, >>> and the predominance of deep purple throughout the ima

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > That's a very well executed mistake. Thanks. And Mark! > > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Technically, I completely blew this shot. It was ISO 16,000, and in the low >> light I completely blew the focus, absolut

PESO Miata

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
And just because I'm the sort of person who will hand hold (leaning against a pillar) a 1/5 second photo with a telephoto lens at 2:30 AM, just because I like a challenge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7769849298/ Pardon the noise, the ISO was 16,000 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sen

GESO moonrise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
Unfortunately I didn't notice the crescent moon until it was a bit higher over the horizon than would have been ideal. These were shot with my mf Tokina 80-200/2.8, bench resting on a 4x4 post, from the hills above Redwood City (off Jefferson ave). I suspect that the three red lights in some o

Re: PESO: Off they go

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Steven. I liked those phones and pads in the bottom of the scene, but I have been convinced by several comments here that I should crop the bottom clutter out. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > It's

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
We spend a lot here on alternatives. Ever hear of Solyndra? We spent a lot on development of wind turbines, but most proposals have been stalled by environmental concerns (bird deaths) and objections on aesthetic grounds. New Jersey is now proposing off shore wind turbines. Even in Hawaii, wher

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
I love the moodiness, Frank. I like the look of rainy, nighttime streets. (Not to drive on, though.) On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a > rainy night. > > Okay, ask. Taking photos, I guess. > > That's my

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
That's a very well executed mistake. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Technically, I completely blew this shot. It was ISO 16,000, and in the low > light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is even > remotely in focus. So I cranked up clarity, c

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > > > I really like that a lot. I love the clasped hands in the foreground, > > and the predominance of deep purple throughout the image in the rendering. > > It's a very intriguing shot. > >

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
YOU! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens Don't underestimate yourself. Having the artistic insight to recognize potential and the skill to make something of it are far from insignificant qualities. http://www.flickr.

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I quite like electricity but that doesn't stop me from recognizing that the methods that have been used to generate it have, for the most part, been dirty, wasteful and destructive, especially when one takes into account the extraction and distribution of the fossil fuels that power so many of o

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >On Aug 11, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> Yeah, it's a pretty neat shot. > >Thanks. It's kind of cool what you can get when you screw up, and then >pretend that's what you meant to do. Don't underestimate yourself. Having the artistic insight to recognize po

Re: PESO: Off they go

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a good distribution of balloons. My "piece of paper" crop makes me believe that it's better without the ground stuff. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:03 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Gorgeous! > > cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > I really like that a lot. I love the clasped hands in the foreground, and the > predominance of deep purple throughout the image in the rendering. It's a > very intriguing shot. Thanks Walt. I think that the predominance of deep purple migh

Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 11, 2012, at 7:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Reminds me of what Louis Armstrong (who didn't like bebop) said of bebop: "If > you make a mistake, repeat it twice and call it improvisation." (paraphrased) I have two rules for dancing lindy hop: 1) There are no mistakes, there i

Re: Peso: For the Catophobes

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's appropriate, too, Frank. her name is Lacey and she's a drama queen. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Love your cat photos. > > This pooch pic is amazing. What a face. Such emotion! > > cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismisse

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Here's a very recent article on the power plant: http://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fuels/number-one-co2-emitter-northeast-brayton-point-power-station.html It's a tough call. Nuclear can be catastrophically bad if all goes wrong, whereas fossil fuel slowly pollutes the environment. I appreciate y

RE: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Bob W
None of those things are good, Dan. Electricity is great. Wouldn't it be nice to try and get electricity without them? The status quo is something that we can change. We can make things better for ourselves if we try, and if we put a bit of money and research into it. It might not happen in our g

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The concern about red dye was with relation to the dye used decades ago, which is no longer being used for anything. The red dyes used today seem to be safe, and are also used in human food products. That being said, there is no evidence that hummers are more attracted to the sight of red dye, so

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Frank, you don't like nuclear energy, you don't like coal, I'm sure you don't like frakking, or oil pipelines. I guess you don't like electricity either. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Ah, well, my

Re: Mini-GESO: Silhouettes (3 images)

2012-08-12 Thread Rick Womer
I really like all three.  The second might be better with still higher contrast--the robin still has some detail, which becomes distracting. Cheers, Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 9

Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-12 Thread Rick Womer
I like these. If you could figure out a way to disguise the feeder, or put some nectar inside some real flowers, you could have some truly killer shots. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, Augus

RE: Peso: For the Catophobes

2012-08-12 Thread Bob W
I found a lovely word in a book I'm reading at the moment - "Syphilophobia". If I ever get a cat, which is highly unlikely, I shall call it Syphil. B > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > knarftheria...@gmail.com > Sent: 12 Augus

RE: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

2012-08-12 Thread Bob W
It shouldn't be measured by sales value, but by lifetime sales volume. Which makes me as good as Vinnie Van Gogh. B > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > knarftheria...@gmail.com > > Of course the difference is that one can't quantify art. At least not > th

Re: PESO 2012 - 068 - GDG

2012-08-12 Thread Rick Womer
The interaction between the subjects is nicely caught, but I find the background too distracting in this one, Godfrey. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi To: PAW Picture-A-Week project ; SeePhoto Talk ; BAPhotoShooters BAPA ; PDML List C

Re: Peso: The Rose

2012-08-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve, I agree with Dave and Frank, it's beautiful. The background choice is good, but what really makes the photo is the contrast in sharpness. The rose is so sharp and the background is just soft enough. You can see the flowers (Blackeyed Susans?) but they aren't sharp. Regards, Bob S. On Sun,

RE: PESO 2012 - 068 - GDG

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
To stop shooting in cafes you have to first stop ~going~ to cafes. ;-) Nice photo. I like that they're sharing. ;-) cheers, frank, posting from his android at Capital Espresso in beautiful downtown Parkdale (Toronto) "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Chr

Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Ah, well, my comment in the previous post about those things being "scary" was because I thought it was a nuclear plant. Not that coal is ideal but if one believes the current propaganda it can actually be quite clean these days. I think I'd prefer fossil fuel to nuclear. Cheers, frank "What

Re: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Of course the difference is that one can't quantify art. At least not the same say one can quantify a timed race against a stopwatch. I guess one could use sale prices in which case Gursky is twenty thousand times better than me since he's sold a photo for over four million as opposed to my $2

RE: Peso: For the Catophobes

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love your cat photos. This pooch pic is amazing. What a face. Such emotion! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins Sent: August 11, 2012 8/11/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

RE: Peso: The Rose

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful! As Dave said, the background adds much. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins Sent: August 11, 2012 8/11/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Peso: The Rose

RE: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Kind of scary tha t they're still building those things. The juxtaposition between the lush green foreground and the stark concrete towers makes for a powerful photo. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Messag

Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion

2012-08-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I think it's an interesting attempt to capture what appears be a rather compelling sculpture. Good composition, maybe it could use a bit more "pop" in the rendering. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Messag

PESO 2012 - 068 - GDG

2012-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As I said once before, SOMEDAY I'll get out of this cafe shooting business ... Evidently, not yet. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7760719670/lightbox enjoy! Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pe

Re: Peso: The Rose

2012-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice, i like what you have chosen for the back ground makes the flower really stand out Dave On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > On a nicer note, I took many walks and there are many yards bedecked in > flowers: > > http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-sg4m

Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
Well done, i like the lowish angle and you get the feel of a wet night Dave On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a > rainy night. > > Okay, ask. Taking photos, I guess. > > That's my answer, and I'm sticking

Re: GFM camera clinic

2012-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: >>> >>> On 8/11/12 8:03 AM, Cory Waters wrote: Is anyone going this year? Cory >>> >>> I'll be there. I'm looking fo