Also the lap [mountain] [Appalachian] dulcimer . . .
I can't read standard music notation, but the tabulature works!
stan
On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> Spanish tab is also used for
> banjo, mandolin, bass guitar, and probably a bunch of other instruments.
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That's pretty, Dan! Cheers, Christine
On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Macro detail from an oil painting in our home:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670441
> Comments, criticisms and suggestions are always appreciated.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotog
I especially like the Orchard shot, but I agree with Frank: both are great!
Cheers, Christine
On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wow! Both wonderful but I especially like the restaurant shot.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Godfrey D
Totally agree, Frank! Great expressions and playful body positions. Lots of
energy to the photo. Cheers, Christine
On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Last peso I mentioned our messenger holiday dinner. Before the dinner we had
> a charity alleycat called Shop 't
Thanks, Frank.
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:05 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hey, I can see photo.net tonight! First time in months, only in Firefox (not
> the default browser), but it works!
>
> Beautiful detail, Dan. That's a
On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> Nice gritty feel, Don, though I believe this scene may have changed recently
> with all the snow that just dumped on your state. Are you out shooting snow
> drifts and such? :-) Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:37
On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> HI Stig: I think this is the strongest image of the series you've just
> posted. Dramatic light, strong composition, warm colors, good texture. Very
> nice. I see from the EXF data you're having some Q Fun! I also like the
> crazy c
Cool!
cheers,
frank
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Subject: PESO: CRT
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670472
Comments and criticisms are always appreciated.
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On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> There's a nice mood in the second shot. Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:04 AM, SV Hovland wrote:
>
>> https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140034&authkey=!ABa-Ib4-orvXh-A
>>
>> https://skydrive.live.
On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:32 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> I completely agree with Bob's comments. Cheers, Christine
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Bob W wrote:
>
>> Hi Boris,
>>
>> the second one is the stronger of the 2. Both nicely composed and exposed,
>> but the second has a less cl
Wow! Both wonderful but I especially like the restaurant shot.
Cheers,
frank
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No shooting t
Managed to send my last post before finishing or proofreading it.
Meant to say, "deserving of ~the~ honour," and meant to congratulate you!
cheers,
frank
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Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Huh! One of my images..
Frank,
All enjoyable stuff.
I'm beginning to recognize some of your messengers.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Last peso I mentioned our messenger holiday dinner. Before the dinner we had
> a charity alleycat called Shop 'til You Drop. I think
Beautiful!
cheers,
frank
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Sent: December 21, 2012 12/21/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - I've Grown Accustomed to Your Face
Trying to limit the calendar I am making for friend to photos taken just
in the last 2-3 years, but didn't have enoug
Congratulations.
I've always wanted to play but have had a million excuses.
Good on ya!
Picture of the axe, please.
;-)
cheers,
frank
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Sent: December 21, 2012 12/21/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: OT: Bought my first guitar (Old dog, ne
Very kind of you to say, Dan.
Thanks.
Cheers,
frank
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Sent: December 20, 2012 12/20/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast
That is a very attractive portrait, and fills a unique position in the
series.
Thanks, Ken. She has seen it and is quite pleased. You're right, a print to her
would be nice. I'll do that.
Cheers,
frank
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Subject: Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast
Nice capt
Hey, I can see photo.net tonight! First time in months, only in Firefox (not
the default browser), but it works!
Beautiful detail, Dan. That's a lovely photo.
Cheers,
frank
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
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Last peso I mentioned our messenger holiday dinner. Before the dinner we had a
charity alleycat called Shop 'til You Drop. I think this is the third year
we've done it.
So: an alleycat is an illegal messenger race. You pay a small registration fee
and various messenger-friendly businesses (bike
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16688489&size=lg
Seventeen proud members in their cormorant costumes, resting near the Charles
Bridge. Couldn't interest any in a beer, though, so I question their bona
fides.
Rick
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That would have been a good entry for the January "Textures" PUG!
Rick
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:06 PM
Subject: PESO: Cherry Blossoms
Macro detail from an oil pain
Darren Addy wrote:
> Don't know if anybody here plays or not,
We guitarists are a dime a dozen; there's no way a mailing list this
size could fail to have a few of us on it.
> but I've decided to stop
> putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
> guitar.
Mazel tov!
Macro detail from an oil painting in our home:
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Bipin,
Get yourself one of those cheap K-5's and an autofocus lens or two.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:
> All his shots turned out crisp, clear,
> colorful and sharp w/o flash indoors, to my envy.
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What, you bought a 'bang for the buck' brand?
You must be a rube or a Pentax user. ;-)
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
> putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
>
Does anyone know for sure if zeiss developed their own multicoatings
technologies for their T* coatings or is it just smc licensed and
renamed?
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You have to commit to play/practice regularly or otherwise you lose your
chops.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:14 PM
To: Pentax-Disc
I think it's more the photographer than the equipment. Maybe the
kid's just a better photographer than you!
I had a friend years ago who used a Practica. He took some pretty
good photos...better than me. He upgraded to a Contax RTS with Zeiss
lenses...but his photography did not improve. After
Don't know if anybody here plays or not, but I've decided to stop
putting off things I've always wanted to do and decided to learn the
guitar.
After exercising my Google Fu, talking to a guitar-playing coworker
and asking a couple of questions on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, I
decided to get a Seagu
A few weeks back I posted some photos from the Dickens fair (at the Cow Palace
in Daly City).
I'm planning on heading there tomorrow AM, in case anyone wants to meet up.
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Well said John. I too used to own the Japanese Asahi Pentax K1000 SE.
Loved its simplicity. Never let me down. On a 36 shot film cassette
got at least 33-34 keepers. Never had a low light shooting problem
ever, even on 100 ASA film.
And I stick to Pentax a) because I have all these old lenses, b)
n
I think I will spend that money on a Hasselblad 500 now that their price has
come down to something I can afford.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson
Sent: December 21, 2012 5:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Groupon: K
Alright, alright. Sheesh. Heh.
Actually when I use lighten shadows there is very little info to recover
from the trees. I do not mind them as silhouettes. I like silhouettes in
lots of instances. Maybe next time I visit Yosemite I'll try a little HDR.
I've thought about it before. Although,
Link made some great night locomotive photos, using multiple flash
bulb set-ups. They are really unique, especially with the technology
he was using. Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> I was thinking about making a day trip up to Roanoke, VA tomorrow & visit
You need to try Lightroom Marnie.
Here's an example of what can be drawn out of those shadows.
https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/2012121102#
Partly done with the Shadows slider.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM, wrote:
> Heh. Thanks, Bob. In this case I don't min
On Dec 21, 2012, at 14:52 , Bruce Walker wrote:
> Oh, boo! I have now totally missed out on saving money on a camera I
> have wouldn't have been able to work with.
>
I think that little 40mm in the front of the K7/K5 would look really cute.
Unfortunately, that's not a focal range I ever use mu
It takes a special kind of idiot to find the PDML, as opposed to the normal
kind of idiot that buys a Canon Rebel on the advice of a minimum wage
earning drone at Best Buy.
Yo MARK!
Kenneth Waller
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I was thinking about making a day trip up to Roanoke, VA tomorrow &
visit the Link Museum to see the collection of O. Winston Link Norfolk
and Western RR photos.
Maybe see if I can find something to inspire me and get me out of my
recent slump.
Checked their website to get the hours and I se
To put it better:
Zeiss knew what to do, but had no industrial process for mass-producing
multicoated lenses at affordable cost. So Zeiss used their expensive process
for small production of multicoated lenses for military and scientific
applications only.
When Asahi Opt.Co,. became aware of th
Oh, boo! I have now totally missed out on saving money on a camera I
have wouldn't have been able to work with.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Now SOLD OUT.
> Looks like somebody cleared out their remaining US inventory.
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:2
In brief:
Zeiss had the know-how, while Asahi Opt.Co,. developed the manufacturing
technology for mass-producing multicoted lenses at affordable cost, based on
patents by OCLI.
So Asahi used the Zeiss knowledge and Zeiss used the Asahi industrial
process.
Dario
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That's a lot of what I'm getting at. I don't remember who mentioned
Pentax "regaining market share". I'm not really concerned with Pentax
regaining market share, because I don't expect it to happen in my lifetime.
I just don't want Pentax to lose market share and leave me stranded.
Without a pre
Buydig has them for 684.00 (with online coupon) NIB with full guarantee,
(worth it I think for 20 bucks), and it's dropped in price there by
almost $60 in the last four days. I expect everyone will be matching
that price or less for the after Xmas sales. Why rush?
On 12/21/2012 3:18 PM, Charl
Heh. I like that. So simple, but really gives the feeling of birds and
potential flight.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
In a message dated 12/21/2012 1:31:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
pdml...@heime.org writes:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140040&authkey=!ACO-z
WDmh5Y826g
St
Interesting. Almost cropped too tight for me, though. Someone dropped a
cake on the piano?
Marnie aka Doe That's the most positive construction I can put on it. :-)
In a message dated 12/21/2012 4:18:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
pdml...@heime.org writes:
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I could have sworn I saw today someone on ebay selling new k-5 for $750
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:19 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss
Heh. Thanks, Bob. In this case I don't mind the trees being silhouettes.
Yosemite is a challenge, get the rock and trees dark out, get the trees and
the rock is too light. It's actually a high contrast situation, although it
doesn't appear to be when you are actually shooting it. I suppose I
On Dec 21, 2012, at 13:27 , Darren Addy wrote:
> Lowest new prices I could find (U.S.) for the original K-5 body are
> currently in the neighborhood of $785. But Amazon Warehouse Deals has
> three right now that (if you don't mind the minor cosmetics and only
> 30 day warranty) are available betw
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I sort of like that one in a minimalist kind of way.
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The way I understand it is the smc lenses were developed by Pentax via
OCLI and they did it on their own with no help from Zeiss which is
contradictory from your theory.
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Now SOLD OUT.
Looks like somebody cleared out their remaining US inventory.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Stan Halpin
wrote:
> Hmm. I just bought a (very slightly) used 40/2.8 Ltd on eBay for $285. If I
> had waited a few days I could have had a similar lens plus a free came
There are at least two key "sources" for something like multicoating. You need
to have an idea what magic elixir(s) will pass light without reflection,
discoloration, etc. Then you need to have a practical manufacturing process to
reliably and accurately deposit multiple coats of the elixir(s) o
On 12/21/2012 1:53 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I have no idea how Pentax expects to gain market share especially as
you can see Nikon and Canon products in pretty much any big box store.
The PDML ? [ : +)
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I have no idea how Pentax expects to gain market share especially as you
can see Nikon and Canon products in pretty much any big box store.
The PDML ? [ : +)
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Subject: Re: Pentax?
http://www.efiber.net/Company_Listings/O/OCLI/_ocli.htm
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Hmm. I just bought a (very slightly) used 40/2.8 Ltd on eBay for $285. If I had
waited a few days I could have had a similar lens plus a free camera. Oh well.
Thanks for the link.
stan
On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
> Groupon has the K-01 in your choice of color, with the 40
What I recall is a small company called OCLI which was working for nasa
developed the process for the 7 layer coatings and sold the rights to
pentax which then held the patent so no one else could make them. Pentax
then released the worlds first super multi coated consumer photographic
lenses in '7
As I remember an article by Norman Goldberg talking about this
(published circa 1979 or so in Modern Photography):
The multlayer anti-reflective coating technology was also developed at
Zeiss labs in the late 1960s-early 1970s, but Zeiss and Pentax were
collaborating on lens design technology at t
On 12/21/2012 11:04 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
Groupon has the K-01 in your choice of color, with the 40/2.8 XS lens, for $299.
The lens alone currently sells for $246.95 at B&H.
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-pentax-digital-camera
Wow, I can now save so much money on a camera I'm not particular
Marnie,
Beautiful, but you need Doc Edgerton to loan you one of his really big
flash tubes to get a little detail in the fir trees. ;-)
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:06 AM, wrote:
> Trying to limit the calendar I am making for friend to photos taken just
> in the last 2-3 years, bu
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Quoting this article:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-reflective_coating
>
> -- start quote
> Interference-based coatings were invented in November 1935 by Alexander
> Smakula, who was working for the Carl Zeiss optics company. Anti-r
Quoting this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-reflective_coating
-- start quote
Interference-based coatings were invented in November 1935 by Alexander
Smakula, who was working for the Carl Zeiss optics company.
Anti-reflection coatings were a German military secret until the early
someone in another forum is trying to argue with me that
pentax didnt develop multicoated glass first. I say they
did in 1971. Hes saying fuji did in 1964 and I have never
heard of such a thing. anyone have any info on this?
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These lenses are still available -- photos available on request. If interested,
email me at jj...@cornell.edu. Thanks for the discussion about these lenses
sparked by this posting last week!
Two lenses in excellent condition -- the AF Sigma 24mm f/2.8 Super-Wide II and
the MF (with Pentax-A co
John,
That's where I was at a year ago.
While I respect Bob's viewpoint on not NEEDING more, that's not really
the point, IMHO. None of us NEED even the cameras we currently have.
All hobbyist pursuits involve spending discretionary income because
the hobby (from knitting, to stamp collecting, to
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
wrote:
> Is the lens usable on other Pentax digital cameras?
Yes; these folks tested it on the K-5.
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1490/cat/45
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
> Groupon has the K-01 in your choice of color, with the 40/2.8 XS lens, for
> $299.
>
> The lens alone currently sells for $24
Well, I was going to go on about the silliness of brand loyalty and all that.
But I decided against it. Be loyal to a brand if you want, if it makes you feel
good. Judging from all the whinging and angst I read, I'm not sure it does
actually make anyone feel good. Sure does nothin' for me, but t
Some people, including myself, are prone to seeing annoying
motion-induced rainbow artifacts in DLP displays. Even with a static
image, I see rainbows when I move my head, or just scan the scene with
my eyes.
Now, the DLP projectors where I've seen this are cheaper and older
than what you're consi
On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:27 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>>
>> Coincidently, I was just at the Epson web site browsing through the
>> projectors, and read Epson recommends at least 2600 lumens. Just FYI.
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>
>
Groupon has the K-01 in your choice of color, with the 40/2.8 XS lens, for $299.
The lens alone currently sells for $246.95 at B&H.
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-pentax-digital-camera
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I was in Central Camera the other day and asked if they had the Fuji X10 or
X100-just wanted to check it out . Well, they didn't have either, and if one
was truly interested in it, he or she would have to special order! Now that
surprised me. Of course, like Paul says, so much shopping is don
Bob Sullivan wrote:
>John,
>1. It's only a tool. You should get over your Pentax loyalty.
That's why I bought my Sony A850. In an odd kind of way the A850 is
the DSLR equivalent of the K1000. Not specifically in terms of
simplicity and certainly not in price(!), but relative to other DSLR's
it
Very nice! I like the soft colors and the composition.
Dan Matyola
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Good thing I havent had breakfast yet...
those are truly stomach turning
ann
On 12/21/2012 02:16, Larry Colen wrote:
On Dec 20, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr wrote:
An interesting set of portraits:
http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfo
What Christine said -
ann
On 12/21/2012 02:10, Brian Walters wrote:
Quoting Christine Aguila :
I aim to play!
Excellent!!
When's the deadline? Cheers, Christine
Always the end of the previous month - but I usually don't get around to
closing submissions for a few days after that.
For
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Trying to limit the calendar I am making for friend to photos taken just
in the last 2-3 years, but didn't have enough, so digging deeper.
This made the cut. Taken 2009. Very, very, similar to something I've
already shown here, and on FB -- just MORE of it (completely different shot,
though
On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics
wrote:
>> When I bought my *ist-D the local, (30 miles away local, but the only
>> surviving). Camera store still carried Pentax. So I actually got to
>> hold one and try one out before I bought. The more or less local Ritz
>> camera store, actua
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> When I bought my *ist-D the local, (30 miles away local, but the only
> surviving). Camera store still carried Pentax. So I actually got to
> hold one and try one out before I bought. The more or less local Ritz
> camera store, actually had a K10D and a number of lenses in stock, but
> was even f
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Gorgeous!
cheers,
frank
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From: Don Guthrie
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Peso The Winter Farm
The weather has been grey & gloomy but I could not wait for decent
clouds and this is just what Iowa looks like without some Winter snow.
Commen
Which is all true, but how would someone who's only exposure to modern
photographic gear is a sales drone in a store that stocks mostly Nikon
and Canon, with a possible nod to Sony. Olympus, or Panasonic, and
probably read the first site that Google served up which, and I have no
idea why excep
On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:30 AM, SV Hovland wrote:
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Doesn't quite work for me. Maybe if you used a virtual red filter to bring the
sky out some more it would show a bit more detail in the clouds, make it a bit
On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:31 AM, SV Hovland wrote:
> https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140042&authkey=!ACFUT1Z28kXgNsw
This one, I like.
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XKCD nails it yet again:
http://xkcd.com/1150/
Don't forget to read the mouseover.
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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila
>
> Coincidently, I was just at the Epson web site browsing through the
> projectors, and read Epson recommends at least 2600 lumens. Just FYI.
> Cheers, Christine
>
they've probably got a cupboard full of overstock lumen
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