Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > That is probably the best photo of a turkey's butt that I've ever seen. MARK! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNS

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
That is probably the best photo of a turkey's butt that I've ever seen. Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ken. And thanks to everyone who commented or had a look. Paul via phone > On Jan 28, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Well done Paul. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: PESO Sh

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Ken Waller
Well done Paul. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/m

Re: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Rick Womer wrote: In Lisbon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 That first one is excellent. and http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333417 The second one doesn't work nearly as well for me, everything above the jeans is too busy for my preferences. (K-5, DA 16

Re: I know it won't last, but ...

2017-01-27 Thread Rick Womer
Well, for me... No images selected for The Book yet, and I'm pretty disappointed with 2016's output. Have a PUG pic but not posted yet. Dislocated my right shoulder after falling on a slick walkway, so no shooting for a couple of weeks. Sigh... Rick On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 17:45 John wrote:

Re: PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the second image. I find the first enigmatic, but a bit confusing and disorienting. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > In Lisbon: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 > > and > > http://photo

PESOs (2) - Wash Day in Alfama

2017-01-27 Thread Rick Womer
In Lisbon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333420 and http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18333417 (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please v

Re: GESO: Whale Watch

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Paul and Larry for your thoughtful comments. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Good catches. Looking at that first shot, which seems to be the best, I > would back off on saturation a tad and brighten t

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Agreed. All good points. My interest was in figuring out the engineering behind it and whether or not they truly got rid of the analog amp. That seems doubtful to me, but I don't know all the specs, which I'm sure are all industry secrets. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Gonz wrote: Did you see the updated image. yes. Much better. I think that 4 or 5 stops will show some amount of banding, but not enough to make much of a difference. Its when you have maybe 7-10 stops where you should notice a massive difference. If the whole theory that is being bandie

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Did you see the updated image. I think that 4 or 5 stops will show some amount of banding, but not enough to make much of a difference. Its when you have maybe 7-10 stops where you should notice a massive difference. If the whole theory that is being bandied about were true, i.e that the multipl

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
I just did a set of my front yard with the K-3. Oops, bracketing starts at 400 rather than 100, but it's still about the same. I can't help but wonder if there is something about the way your version of lightroom processes images. Gonz wrote: I still like the better exposed image though, th

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
That should be 4 stops difference in ISO. On 1/27/2017 5:54 PM, Gonz wrote: Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images after I have my metho

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
I still like the better exposed image though, the color rendition is more natural to my eye. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Gonz wrote: > Here it is with autotoning: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32179978780/in/dateposted-public/ > > Much better... > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 a

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Here it is with autotoning: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32179978780/in/dateposted-public/ Much better... On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Gonz wrote: > Those are very good Larry. Much better performance with the K-1 IMO. > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Those are very good Larry. Much better performance with the K-1 IMO. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I just tried a quick test with the K-1. I initially bracketed five shots, 2 > stops per frame, Tav, set to -2 EV, which gave me -6, -4, -2, 0 and +2, > however my lightroo

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
I just tried a quick test with the K-1. I initially bracketed five shots, 2 stops per frame, Tav, set to -2 EV, which gave me -6, -4, -2, 0 and +2, however my lightroom will only correct up to 5 stops, so I dropped the -6 EV. Four presses of the shutter, two of some shelf lichen in my front y

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Gonz wrote: I'm using the K-5, considered one of the ISO invariant cameras. Here are the images: Properly exposed with ISO1600: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32559204535/in/dateposted-public/ +4 compensation at ISO 100: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32179978780/in/d

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
I'm using the K-5, considered one of the ISO invariant cameras. Here are the images: Properly exposed with ISO1600: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32559204535/in/dateposted-public/ +4 compensation at ISO 100: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66982297@N02/32179978780/in/dateposted-public

Re: ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Gonz wrote: Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images after I have my methodology down. Hence this post. The results were so surprising,

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
It looks like a rather grand aunt whose voluminous skirts are caught up in her knicker elastic > On 27 Jan 2017, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Jack Davis
Hummm...OK. You nailed it, Paul. HA!! J - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:33:41 AM Subject: PESO Shake a Tail Feather http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

ISO invariance

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Ok. I've done some experiments to test this whole ISO invariance subject, which some ascribe almost mythological healing powers to underexposed images. I'll reveal one pair of experimental images after I have my methodology down. Hence this post. The results were so surprising, that it made me

I know it won't last, but ...

2017-01-27 Thread John
I'm feeling pretty good right now. Got my submissions for the PDML Annual in reasonably early, even though 3 acceptable quality images represents WAY too large of a percentage of my work last year. Found something good for the February PUG, and better still, when I went to shoot it, everything ac

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread John
On 1/27/2017 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg AHHH Twistin' Shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it baby! Sehr gut! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: Ya just gotta love this...

2017-01-27 Thread John
If memory serves, I discovered their business model around version 1.x, which is why I never got as far as version 2.x. When I tried it, none of the effects really did something I wanted to do. They were not bad effects, just didn't do anything I was interested in doing or couldn't already do wit

Re: Ya just gotta love this...

2017-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Well I decided to give them one more chance, and downloaded their "Free" version of version 10. Seems I don't have enough system memory for it to run properly, the system should have enough memory, but that's the symptoms. I don't use it enough to care actually. I've got the Nik software dow

Re: GESO: Whale Watch

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Paul Stenquist wrote: Good catches. Looking at that first shot, which seems to be the best, I would back off on saturation a tad and brighten the midrange a bit with curves. Might want to move the blue/yellow color balance slider a wee bit toward yellow as well. If I weren't going to be a s

Re: GESO: Whale Watch

2017-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good catches. Looking at that first shot, which seems to be the best, I would back off on saturation a tad and brighten the midrange a bit with curves. Might want to move the blue/yellow color balance slider a wee bit toward yellow as well. Best, Paul > On Jan 27, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Larry Colen

Re: GESO: Whale Watch

2017-01-27 Thread Larry Colen
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Just to let you know what I was up to Yesterday: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095567 You've put on weight since I last saw you. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http:

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Ah, that explains it. It almost seemed like something was on your lens or glare. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Yes, it's a wild turkey. The lack of contrast is due to heavy fog. I > compensated, but there's a limit to what one can do. > > Paul via phone > >> On Jan 2

Re: Ya just gotta love this...

2017-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
For me all their goodwill evaporated when I installed an earlier free trial and it screwed up my Adobe applications so thoroughly I was forced to delete and reinstall both Lightroom and Photoshop to get rid of it. Wouldn't touch their plugins now. Try the free Nik suite, P.J. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, it's a wild turkey. The lack of contrast is due to heavy fog. I compensated, but there's a limit to what one can do. Paul via phone > On Jan 27, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Gonz wrote: > > Funny! Good catch. Wild? > > Seems somewhat un-contrasty to my eyes, is it perhaps very high ISO? > > >>

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Funny! Good catch. Wild? Seems somewhat un-contrasty to my eyes, is it perhaps very high ISO? On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/list

GESO: Whale Watch

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Just to let you know what I was up to Yesterday: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1095567 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
great image! nice detail, and unique POV. A bit humorous, I might add. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18336829&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@

Ya just gotta love this...

2017-01-27 Thread P. J. Alling
So On1 offers Perfect effects 9.x for free. Except after a while it offers minor rev. update, which they don't tell you will invalidate your free license as the free version is now the free trial version... But it's even better because of course the free trial period started on the day you ins

Re: enablement of new book

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Yes, we met her at the Amon Carter Museum when they were showing Avedon's work a few years ago. We were surprised to find out she was the Wilson brother's mom. In the book, the saddest story to me is the one about Richard Garber. Such a tragic story of humanity. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:21 PM,

PESO Shake a Tail Feather

2017-01-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
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Re: OT: Ooooo

2017-01-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/1/17, Collin B, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah nice. I think if I were a working ad/magazine/agency photog I would be interested, but then I wouldn't want to fork our for a new system, as I would be using a Pentax med format

Re: enablement of new book

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Yes! I love the 50 Portraits book. I acquired that recently. The cover shot is gorgeous. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > That looks like a good one, Gonz. > > One of my treasured books is Gregory Heisler: 50 Portraits. In this > you see the final (usually cover) shots,

Re: enablement of new book

2017-01-27 Thread Bruce Walker
That looks like a good one, Gonz. One of my treasured books is Gregory Heisler: 50 Portraits. In this you see the final (usually cover) shots, the alternate takes, plus a story behind the taking of each one, and some technical analysis. In some case the story is of a fail. Heisler managed to get h

Re: enablement of new book

2017-01-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It is indeed a great book. I received a copy years ago from the author, who is married to my college roommate. Laura and Bob Wilson are also the parents of the Wilson Brothers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre

enablement of new book

2017-01-27 Thread Gonz
Bought a copy of Laura Wilson's "Avedon At Work In The American West". Good read and great pictures of both the subjects and Avedon taking pictures of them. Great insight into his approach and mindset. Hard to put it down. Its not often you see a book about a great photographer at work. -- PDML

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-27 Thread John
It looks to me like it only appears where the highlights are blown out. I'm guessing the artifact was always there, but it only became visible when you brightened the scene overall in post processing. Now that you know about it, you can adjust for it; maybe by using an adjustment brush rather th

OT: Ooooo

2017-01-27 Thread Collin B
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Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-27 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Two things I can think of. Either that camera is using a new cotton > sensor, or you are guilty of pushing fake news on us. You were never > there at all, but instead posed some of your friends holding signs in > front of a painted fabric ba