RE: M85mm f2.0 bokeh

2007-04-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I know why the K85/1.8 is probably so valuable, because those in the know, ( the type of photographers who tend to pay good money for old lenses) know that the M85 is not a viable alternative of you want a fast MF 85mm PK lens. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: newbie question on aperatures

2007-04-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Godfrey, were you using this lens on FF film or APS digital? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: newbie question on aperatures On Apr 25,

RE: Making a small DNG or RAW file

2007-04-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I dont think there would be any reason why a raw file could not be resized down for other uses, but it technically wouldnt be a RAW file anymore if any sensor captured data was lost in the process and of course it would be if sized down. some sort of lossless compressed 16 bit format simliar to

RE: Just for the hell of it!

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I think the converse question would be also interesting, what shots you have anyone shot on film that can't/could not have been done on today's digital SLRs? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:59

WANTED TO BUY - LARGE LENS CASES

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I need a couple large hard lens cases approx 9-9.5 inches Inside height, and approx 3 inches Inside diameter. Anybody have any spares for sale? contact = [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent:

More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FYI, Here's another sample shot with the SMC-M 85mm F2.0 lens taken at F11 and at min. focus distance of ~3 feet. The bokeh isn't as bad as wide open, but it still is noticably not quite right IMHO. Lens is definately sharp though, note the details in the foreground leaves and stems...

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
CATEGORICALLY FALSE - this particular bokeh problem can be easily seen in-camera viewfinder when focussing, can be seen in the unedited RAW files, can be easily seen with ZERO sharpening, and BOKEH is of such a scale relative to sharpening that I believe this post is wrong about any bokeh issues

RE: a flower for Shel - GDG

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If you cant do it, teach it. If you cant teach it, teach gym! JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: a flower for Shel - GDG - Original

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
sorry, but your as mistaken as WR is. And just as bad for not reading my posts in entirety and not knowing how USM works or behaves with out of focus parts of the image. We are not talking about rendering here, which includes many parameters of the lens formed image, we are talking about the bokeh

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Secondly, this WR guy's posts, really show he is completely clueless. His deductions make no sense because he either doesnt understand or never noticed how unsharp mask works or he doesnt read the posts in entirety because I clearly stated that this bokeh problem is easily visible in the

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
or self-worship enissomaniainability to prevent onself from attacking or critcizing rhinotillexomania compulsive nose picking Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: More

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh On 4/23/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, this WR guy's posts, really show he is completely clueless. His deductions make no sense because he either doesnt understand

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
. LIGHTEN UP - not every comment is about you or directed to you. Kind regards, Shel -- Original message -- From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secondly, this WR guy's posts, really show he is completely clueless. His deductions make no sense because he

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
? Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:01:09 -0400 NO this was not a general discussion that I responded to harshly, he

RE: WANTED TO BUY - LARGE LENS CASES

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Melbourne, Australia J. C. O'Connell wrote: I need a couple large hard lens cases approx 9-9.5 inches Inside height, and approx 3 inches Inside diameter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
smc-M bokeh Please don't tell me how to react/respond to all this craziness because you are not the one being repeatedly subjected to it. Did I tell you how to react or respond? Cause and effect. Introspection. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh - the photo

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If you look at the first bokeh test photo I posted shot at F2.0 from yesterday ,you will see the bokeh is not ordinary, its extraordinarily bad, kinda jagged double imaged looking. this second shot at F11 still shows some of that wierd double image/jaggedness but I probably should have posted them

RE: More 85mm f2.0 smc-M bokeh - the photo

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the key here is the focus distance. Some lenses are formulated for medium or infinity focus. Other, macros for example, are formulated of close distance performance. Again, I compliment you on the f11 shot of the bottle brush. Bob - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

Another 85mm f2.0 SMC-M image - Fungi?

2007-04-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Heres a more conventional looking image not showing any bokeh problems I took with this lens today: http://www.jchriso.com/temp/85MMFUNGI.jpg This one was shot at F5.6, the lens seems very sharp and contrasty by this f-Stop to me although the small web image doesn't really show it well. Color

RE: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
fuck you too Tim jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole? Norm. You left out a name in this appology ... Tim

RE: MSNBC Poll: This is gone on long enough....

2007-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
your both a couple of world classless assholes for continuing to do this kind of thing. If this is your idea of witty humour, you dont have much wit...Stop with this stuipid depravity... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher

RE: MSNBC Poll:

2007-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
fuck you shel, STOP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole? Norm, believe me, I know that scenario, especially

RE: MSNBC Poll: Resuls are in : Kenneth Waller wins the A-hole title

2007-04-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
For insisting on continuing on with the former subject title... Time to start a new one I guess, I can only take so much unprovoked abuse before it has to simply be thrown back in same manner was thrownturnabout is fair play as they say.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: MSNBC Poll: Is JCO really an asshole?

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of course not, but we all know NORM BAUGHER is an ASSHOLE for posting something of this nature, especially without any provocation... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:19 PM To:

RE: external battery source for ist D

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I would never go higher than stated, its too risky. What you need is 6.5 volts REGULATED DC with ~ 1 amp current capabilty or the flash will take longer than normal to charge. the problem with UNREGULATED supplies is that they often have too much voltage rise under no load or small loads if they

RE: Please, let this thread die: MSNBC Poll: Is...

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Agreed, only a person of that persuation would do something like that, its unprecedented and it wasnt even provoked, it was just posted in fun. A Real Sicko IMHO. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lasse Karlsson Sent: Saturday, April

RE: Please, let this thread die: MSNBC Poll: Is...

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
sorry persuasion! too bad my spell checker had to be turned off jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Please, let this thread die: MSNBC

RE: Please, let this thread die: MSNBC Poll: Is...

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
trouble/flames. Similarly, JCO should not take the bait, predictably, every single freaking time. Not every post requires a response. Just have a beer and let it slide, man. We're all here because we like taking pictures with our Pentax gear. That should be enough. Alex On 4/21/07, J. C. O'Connell

RE: Disadvantage of no A setting on some manual lenses?

2007-04-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You dont get any AE with non A or later lenses. Manual only. You have to take a stop down meter reading/shutter setting every time your lighting or aperture setting changesIts not very good if you need to shoot fast under a lot of varied lighting condtions. (actully you can get AE with these

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO, the major problem

RE: OT - for those of you who haveDVD equipthat can playPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
John Francis must be out of touch on the latest HDTV displays their image quality compared to ANY CRT HDTVS. I happen to own what is considered by many the best CRT HDTV ever made, bar none, (the Sony 34XBR960 of 2004). As much as I like it, it is simply nowhere near as sharp as the latest 1080P

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:07 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's At 06:33 AM 20/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Ah, but I dont watch the HDTV

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL On 20/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, here's the key, get as many channels as you can and get a DVR/TIVO

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
funny you mention it but thats what I am currently getting, DirecTV with everything they offer and a HD DVR for $100 a month. Thats the best $100 that I spend every month in terms of VALUE. I wouldnt dream of dropping it and of course I have that option so whats your point? Most people spend at

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
systemDVD's At 02:57 PM 20/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: YOU just dont understand what really good reproduction of audio and video is all about, snip No, I just don't give a shit. D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's It takes a lot more than a hi tech sound system home theater to make one cultured. Cheers, Dave On 4/20/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I'm not pompuous, your just uncultured jco

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/04/20 Fri AM 12:59:49 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
for ALL MANKIND?. Wait, what have I been missing? Did anyone tell the folks in Bangladesh? Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip

RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
players in North America. I don't have to prove anything. You are the one that started out contending something was illegal, and unless you've provided evidence that it is, in subsequent posts I haven't read, the ball is still in your court. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
than the live performance. Cheers, Dave On 4/20/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but anyone who actually doesnt give a shit about having beautiful music or cinema in their home IS without a doubt UNcultured... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Are you trying to say that lossy, distorted, image and sound degradations cant ruin the beauty of music or cinemataphography to the point where it no longer communicates the original human message? I say they can... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Translation for the joe six-pack crowd out there : mankind is just a more elegant word for everybody. Didn't think I had to dumb it down so much to be understood... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
you'll be saying that recordings played on said high end equipment are better than the live performance. Cheers, Dave On 4/20/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but anyone who actually doesnt give a shit about having beautiful music or cinema in their home IS without a doubt

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:52:42 -0400 WRONG

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Sarcasm is not always noted Reading is reading and listing to music is listening to music, and watching films is watching films. These are different media but NONE of them are better than the other which is often what many so called readers try to imply. Reading is not somehow better than

RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVDequipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
something for sure, i.e., you only think it may be the case, then why strenuously argue the issue? Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: RE: OT - for those of you

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
a story, not so important. Cheers, Dave On 4/20/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, you DO need better than average gear to hear/see ALL the beauty of the music and the images. Its not about gear, it about seeing and hearing what was created and the way the creaters created

RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVDequipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I am so sick of this gearhead label or pushing MY preference bullshit. NOBODY prefers bad sound to good sound or a bad picture to a good one. I wasnt have never have been taking only about gear. You simply do NOT get nearly as much of the original artworks beauty/artistry with lower than average

RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat canplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
something was illegal, and unless you've provided evidence that it is, in subsequent posts I haven't read, the ball is still in your court. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
been choked out of it'. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:15:55 -0400 Sarcasm

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
all of this assumes you would be WASTING your time on HDTV. I say this in not the case, A good HD home theater can actually improve your lifestyle if you get the right programming/DVDs for YOU because the viewing experience is way better, EVEN WITH DVDS. jco -Original Message- From:

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
in the sensory train. It's called a brain. This clever little device magically seems to clean up hisses, pops, snow, static, etc., so that we continue enjoying what we see and hear despite any momentary imperfections in it's reproduction. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's What do you do when the power goes out? Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL

RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
its total hogwash, because it does not address the simple fact that my comments are being taken completely of context. My comments quoted were in direct response to a post that someone essentially stated they simply didnt give a shit about having good music or cinema in thier home. Even so, I

RE: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVDequipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
you continuing arguing on this is wearing thin, I clearly stated that my belief is based on EVERYTHING I have heard on the topic in 10 years which is considerably more that a single story by you. And NO I dont belive everything I hear, so your single contridictory tale isnt enought to change my

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
to the written word, hence my jest. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:05:49 -0400 look if you cant even

RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat canplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
whohaveDVD equipthat canplayPALsystemDVD's Hey hey hey. Is this the kind of behavior they teach you on HDTV? Honestly, there are probably minors and others including myself that don't want to be exposed to this kind of language. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL J. C. O'Connell wrote: HAR! you missed the entire point of my post, a typo is definately not the same thing

Worst Bokeh ever in a non-mirror Pentax Lens?

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I bought a Pentax SMC-M 85mm f2.0 lens 20 months ago and tried it for the first time today ( I know, the buy/try delay is very long!). Anyway, its very sharp stopped down a little bit, excellent contrast, no distortion, little if any CA, but damn the bokeh looks like crap to me. I wouldnt wan't

RE: Worst Bokeh ever in a non-mirror Pentax Lens?

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
. So I'd have to see a lot of pics from this lens to judge. I once owned it, and I don't recall feeling bad about the results, but it was a long time ago, and I can't point to any specific results right now. Paul -- Original message -- From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

RE: Worst Bokeh ever in a non-mirror Pentax Lens?

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I guess I didnt make myself clear, this shot was taken specifically to show the bad bokeh. Another one taken with no highlights in the backround or much smaller stops you wont see this bad bokeh which kinda defeats the purpose of the test photo. this photo was not taken for any other reason. I

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Excuse me but my repeated contention/belief on this has been that its not legal to sell region free or cross regioned DVD players in the USA, using the fact that you cant get them from any of the major U.S. retailers and the simple existance of the regioning system itself in the first place as

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yup, when you are using a SAT receiver your DVR recordings can still go on during short power dropouts with a UPS if the dish electronics still have power. It's really most useful for short AC power glitches which might have caused the HDDVR to do VERY unwanted system reboots while watching or

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The only caveat is the dish electronics ( I forget the name of it, its some sort of RF amp or frequency convertor or both) still need power for the SAT receiver/DVR to have a good signal to continue recording. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:38 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excuse me but my repeated contention/belief on this has been that its not legal to sell region free or cross regioned DVD players in the USA, using the fact

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
those games were never captured or recorded in HD you nitwits jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:05 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
All DVD Players shipped in the USA must be set to Region 1. It is not legal for the manufacturer to provide information or any other means of changing the region code to allow the playback of DVD's from other regions. are you really trying to say that you think the above statement doesnt say or

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
personal viewing. It would be illegal to distribute them without prior permission by the owner(s). I don't mind being wrong. I'm wrong often (that's often as in frequently)... a little takeoff on a Gilbert Sullivan line. When I'm wrong I admit it. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's On 21/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those games were never captured or recorded in HD you nitwits Ok, Ok, I was just asking a simple question of Tom JCO, I don't know why you think every comment revolves around you. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
. It would be illegal to distribute them without prior permission by the owner(s). I don't mind being wrong. I'm wrong often (that's often as in frequently)... a little takeoff on a Gilbert Sullivan line. When I'm wrong I admit it. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax

RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat canplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If I posts a whole bunch of posts and he doesnt refute ANY of them, he has no business later just posting a much later new post characterizing them as all DUMB with nothing to rebute them or to contribute to the discussion. Thats nothing but a cheap unethical trick and a TOTALLY personal attack.

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Studio Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's On 21/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well youre wrong and dumb for posting a dumb football tape argument and giving a lame

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 06:37:36PM -0600, Tom C wrote: From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

RE: OT - for those of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
of youwho haveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's On 21/04/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huh, I DID provide non-anectodal evidence, **None of the major retailers sell them** and **the very existance of the region coding scheme** would make sales of non region 1 coded DVD players

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can play PAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not only do DVDs come in different video formats, even ones that are same format may not play in your country as DVDs have a region coding system. If you live in USA and have a typical USA bought DVD player, look only for DVDs listed as region 1 coded or those coded for entire world ( no region

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, April 19, 2007 10:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's J. C. O'Connell wrote: Not only do DVDs come in different video formats, even ones that are same format may not play in your country as DVDs have a region

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of ann sanfedele Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPAL systemDVD's J. C. O'Connell wrote: you own a DVD player and have never ever bought a DVD disc before? You are one rare bird! Sure, most

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
systemDVD's J. C. O'Connell wrote: you own a DVD player and have never ever bought a DVD disc before? You are one rare bird! Sure, most people rent way more than buy, but never ever bought even one? wow... I am a rare bird, and I pride myself on it ;) I've never bought a tape for the VHS either - only

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can play PAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Those are out there but they are illegal. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can play PAL

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
in Europe? Norm J. C. O'Connell wrote: Those are out there but they are illegal. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Baugher Well, thanks to the internet, I have a region code freebDVD player - looked up the hack to get rid of the region code lock

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2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
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RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that canplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, was purchased from and shipped from a Canadian business address, which last time I looked, was in North America. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
that can playPAL systemDVD's And immoral and fattening as well. But you know, I happen to think that in a society that values free speech, limiting access based on regions is unconscionable. J. C. O'Connell wrote: Those are out there but they are illegal. jco -Original Message- From

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the movie industry could legislate laws to help them with their movie release timing... Norm J. C. O'Connell wrote: then you dont understand the reasons why, see my later posts. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Correct, the best HDTV is better presentation than most if not all theaters in terms of image quality. I just saw GRINDHOUSE in the best theater in my area, cost me $9.50 and the PQ was much WORSE than a good HDTV presentation on my home theater. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
the region-code enforcement works, de facto, without the need for a law. If it's not a law, it can't be illegal. I'll believe it's illegal when you provide proof that a law exists instead of just supposing one does. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
establishments in their cities. For example, a couple of friends in Tel Aviv have region free DVD players. And, as I said in an earlier post, they are readily available at numerous outlets in San Francisco Shel J. C. O'Connell wrote: think about it for a second, if region free players or cross

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I dont hardly watch televison either, I have a HD home theater I screen movies on. There is a dramatic ( no pun intended ) difference between TVS of 1988 and today's HD home theaters. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent:

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's --- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: think about it for a second, if region free players or cross regioned players were available legally anywhere, the entire region coding system would make no sense

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
WRONG region coding is not just rigging the market, it allows DVDs to be released a specific time after the theatrical release regardless of the regional timing. If there was no regional coding, the USA would have to wait much longer for the global DVD to be issued because in general many USA

RE: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I disagree because there are DVD hardware and software licensing issues and these region codings issues are part of those licensing AGREEMENTS. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:16 PM To:

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equipthatcan playPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
? DVD releases do not NEED to be delayed. Consumers do not derive ANY benefit from the region coding. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
limit is in reality 55? Becuase they would like to suggest a slower speed, but it's not a law. Because, believe it or not, every single action and protocol is not mandated by a law somewhere and they do not require the force of a law. They are not that important. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
tell me what kind of hardware I must watch a DVD on. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 19 April 2007 21:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's Then there must be some kind of loophole or blantant disregard

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip that can playPAL

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
you never had an HDTV then, if you arent seeing your show, films, and events, in HD, then the replacement is already overdue no matter what year it is. HDTV is not just improved analog TV, its an entire order of magnitude better all new system and viewing experience. jco -Original

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
one does. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVD equip thatcanplayPALsystemDVD's Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:34:26 -0400 yes

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's No. I said a yellow recommended speed sign is not a posted speed limit, at least where I live, and it's therefore not breaking a law to ignore a suggestion. It is against the law to exceed the limit. Tom C. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL

RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcan playPAL systemDVD's

2007-04-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - for those of you who have DVDequipthatcanplayPAL systemDVD's Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:48:45 -0400 Its not nonsense, and no public law

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