Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-31 Thread Peter Alling
--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >In order to maintain harmony at home and possibly > avoid divorce court, I > >actually passed up an LX today. I'm starting to > wonder if maybe a new wife > >isn't easier to come by than an LX :-) > > "I'

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-30 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 1/30/01 10:58:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << to be output onto poly-based print material. > > Just kidding. :) OR...IS...HE...??? >> Not about the more than likely poly based or pure poly print material. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-30 Thread Mike Johnston
Aaron wrote: > Oh well...it's not like it'll matter in a few years anyways, when we're > all shooting pictures digitally with our cybernetic implants and then > uploading our conciousness to the Kodak Digitopolis to be output onto > poly-based print material. > > Just kidding. :) OR...IS...HE.

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-30 Thread Mike Johnston
There's nothing inherently wrong with having your B&W film developed by a lab. It was good enough for Cartier-Bresson. You do, however, have to make sure it's appropriate. You have to do one of two things: find a lab whose standardized process is appropriate for your film and exposure preferences

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
TECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: January 29, 2001 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :( > > > How about the lame excuse that I would have to trade the ZX-5n > in order to > > get it? That would only leave me with a PZ-1p, a Spotmatic,

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Whew, I was worried. --Tom Bill Owens wrote: > > In order to maintain harmony at home and possibly avoid divorce court, I > actually passed up an LX today. I'm starting to wonder if maybe a new wife > isn't easier to come by than an LX :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List.

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Roberts
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In order to maintain harmony at home and possibly avoid divorce court, I >actually passed up an LX today. I'm starting to wonder if maybe a new wife >isn't easier to come by than an LX :-) "I'm not going to get married again. I'm just going to find a wom

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > I'm sorry you feel that way, Aaron. > > Twas sort of a joke, Shel. Thus, mister smiley --> :) I know ... just playing it deadpan > Your example about the beakers > is a very good one, and obviously > we would not be accounting for it > if we didn't know about it.

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > I feel the need to defend my honor! :) > > I'm sorry you feel that way, Aaron. Twas sort of a joke, Shel. Thus, mister smiley --> :) > Tell me, Aaron, do you hand process? If you do, will you > agitate the film exactly the same way I do? Will you fill and > empt

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Hi Mike, Durst well be glad to sell you a point-source head that will make the Leitz look like it was a soft light enlarger by contrast. At least they can if your enlarger is one of the type that are often used for aerial film. I guess my point is that most enlargers can be set up for your prin

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: January 29, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :( > > She's lulling you into a false sense of security. Prepare for a world of > hurt, buddy. >

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ed Mathews wrote: > But Shel, have you really, really > looked at the film close enough to > know for sure that what you're seeing > is not reticulation? I've had that > happen from minor temperature shock > with Kodak films. Yes, Ed ... but if it were reticulation it would be an even

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread canislupus
At 13:29 29.1.2001 -0600, you wrote: >> agency). I gave it to them to be souped in TMAX RS. The grain >was even >> WORSE than old FOMAPAN400 developed in RODINAL! > >Lets keep things in perspective. You are talking about T-Max. >William Robb Ok, perhaps I was a bit carried away? Easy on this lis

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread William Robb
Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: January 29, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :( > How about the lame excuse that I would have to trade the ZX-5n in order to > get it? That would o

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Bill Owens
How about the lame excuse that I would have to trade the ZX-5n in order to get it? That would only leave me with a PZ-1p, a Spotmatic, and the LX (if I could talk her into it) Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Explain to the group why you should not be unsubscribed. > > > Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROT

Re: I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Doug Brewer
Explain to the group why you should not be unsubscribed. Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In order to maintain harmony at home and possibly avoid divorce court, I > actually passed up an LX today. I'm starting to wonder if maybe a new wife > isn't easier to come by than an LX :-) >

I think I made a Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Bill Owens
In order to maintain harmony at home and possibly avoid divorce court, I actually passed up an LX today. I'm starting to wonder if maybe a new wife isn't easier to come by than an LX :-) Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://ww

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > For those of you who are thinking of sending your B&W to a lab, > take heed. No one does it better than you. I feel the need to defend my honor! :) I have a really high opinion of our b&w capabilities here. That said, there are always downsides to a "lab" as opposed

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: January 29, 2001 2:47 AM Subject: Re: A Bad Mistake :( > > That's very true, and also universal accross countries ;( > > When I was doing only traditional B&W films, I got som

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread canislupus
At 21:09 28.1.2001 -0800, you wrote: [...] >again will I send my negs to a lab - NEVER! >Even my POS negatives from 30 years ago look better. > >For those of you who are thinking of sending your B&W to a lab, >take heed. No one does it better than you. >-- >Shel Belinkoff That's very true, and

A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Mike Johnston
Shel wrote: > Failing to heed my own advice, and anxious to get some TX > processed during a busy period, I sent a couple of rolls to the > local professional lab. Tonight I was looking at the negs > through a loupe, getting ready for some printing, and was > horrified at the grain I saw. I co

Re: A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mike Johnston wrote: > There's no reason why a custom lab can't > do a good job with B&W processing, > but you've got to work to set it up > so that it will work. In other words, > do some testing just as you would if > you were processing it yourself--match > the film and developer, ascerta

A Bad Mistake :(

2001-01-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Failing to heed my own advice, and anxious to get some TX processed during a busy period, I sent a couple of rolls to the local professional lab. Tonight I was looking at the negs through a loupe, getting ready for some printing, and was horrified at the grain I saw. I compared the lab negs to