A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best c

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I would be tempted to try a more oblong proportion and 'grow' the corn to the top of the frame. Godfrey On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the > magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Stenquist : I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and the par

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
A good suggestion, but my customers usually want 12 x 18 or 11 x 17 prints that will fit precut 16 x 20 mats. As seen, the image is sized for 12 x 18. And I don't list any non-standard crops on my price sheets. The cost of mass production:-). Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks. You're right, the tree should go. An easy clone job. Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Paul Stenquist : > >> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some >> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few >

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Stan Halpin
I have seen many corn fields with roads in front of them. I read your question before viewing the example and so, yes, I noticed the difference in angle, but it looks totally natural. Leave it as is. Except for one very minor detail - the brightness of the right-hand rear-view mirror caught my a

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-08-27 7:06, Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration. The mismatch doesn't bother me, that's the real

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg > >Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for >the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but >when making prints for car own

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread George Sinos
Hi Paul Maybe because I've grown up in Nebraska and have seen so many cornfields, this looks natural to me and is not a distraction. If you tilted the shot to make the tops of the corn horizontal that would make the corn stalks and trees look odd. I think the only way to tilt the shot would be

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, if you can clone out the branches on the back - it would be a far better picture, IMO. I think that the way the horizontals are presented is just fine. At least as far as this very viewer goes. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots fro

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
Only farmers will even notice the corn and they'll complain that it isn't the focal point. Big city magazine photo editors? Not so much. Beauty of a Mopar! On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Paul, if you can clone out the branches on the back - it would be a > far better pi

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I shouldn't even be here but -- my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree. don't mind the corn slant. ok back underground a On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist : I'm a bit torn

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Would you consider making the car run downhill? I know you wouldn't be photographing the driver's side, but... The dual horizons is a bit unsettling. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are so

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have th

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread John
On 8/27/2013 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access to other venues, so this cornfield

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread John Francis
> > Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the > magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when > making prints for car owners, it's a consideration. I rather doubt most of the car owners would even be able to tell you what is in the

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is. BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool in a minute or two. Here's my try ...

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Alan C
Subject: A Rendering Choice I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff... But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember (that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through 400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that... Terrible lighting conidi

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann! Please! Put the gun down and back away from the keyboard. ;-) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff... > > But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember > (that's not a real question) last month when I s

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left > downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn > stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is. > > BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have to go through 600 Mopar Nats photos, so I understand your pain. So far, I've rendered thee of the fourteen cars I shot. Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff... > > But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK!

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Secret retouching technique! :-) 1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood and trunk (ie including as much corn as possible, but excluding as much car as possible). 2. switch to lasso: hold Option and lasso around the roof of the car. This will exclude the roof from th

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
YES! Very distracting. Sorry to say, Paul. Jack - Original Message - From: Steve Cottrell To: pentax list Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:17 AM Subject: Re: A Rendering Choice On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce, the grammarian, strikes! ann(oh did i really say than and don't worry it's only the editing I'm doing)san On 8/27/2013 14:31, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann! Please! Put the gun down and back away from the keyboard. ;-) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: ah yeah I see

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks! I'm going to give it a try. This technique could prove to be frequently useful. Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Secret retouching technique! :-) > > 1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood > and trunk (ie including as much corn as

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
You're welcome, Paul. I forgot to mention: 11. return layer opacity to 100%, but that's probably pretty obvious. This technique is a great way to reduce lumps and bumps in people, as in clothing, love handles, etc. Substitute the Warp tool for the Distort tool. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM,

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-28 Thread John
Use the free transform on a selection. Don't include the car in that selection. On 8/27/2013 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left downward slant kinda balances out the left upwa

Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-28 Thread John
Chapter 10 in Mark's new book I think. On 8/27/2013 9:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: You're welcome, Paul. I forgot to mention: 11. return layer opacity to 100%, but that's probably pretty obvious. This technique is a great way to reduce lumps and bumps in people, as in clothing, love handles, etc