Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I bet they wanted to call it Light Box but discovered that name is taken already. So was Shadowlands, admittedly by a movie, but perhaps that was still the reason. You can register the same trademark as someone else as long as it's not

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-10 Thread Gonz
Mark Roberts wrote: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I bet they wanted to call it Light Box but discovered that name is taken already. So was Shadowlands, admittedly by a movie, but perhaps that was still the reason. You can register the same trademark as

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-10 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Gonz wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I bet they wanted to call it Light Box but discovered that name is taken already. So was Shadowlands, admittedly by a movie, but perhaps that was still the reason. You can register the

Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Adobe released beta version of Lightroom - application dedicated for digital photography workflow. Contrary to similar Apple's Application - Aperture - it will accept much more varieties of RAW files including Pentax PEFs (just like Camera Raw does), has much lower (reasonable) system requirements

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Bob Shell
I've been working with it a while. It is really great as a browser for all kinds of file formats. What l like most about this first module is the monochrome conversions, which are fast and work better than most others I have tried. If you're on Mac, download it and give it a try. Bob

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Adobe released beta version of Lightroom - application dedicated for digital photography workflow. Contrary to similar Apple's Application - Aperture - it will accept much more varieties of RAW files including Pentax PEFs (just like Camera Raw does), has much lower

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Adam Maas wrote on 09.01.06 13:39: It's currently importing 760 PEF's as I write this. Looks to have 2 major advantages over Aperture, it reads PEF's and it runs on older macs. Aperture has quite strange hardware requirements. On the one side it requires G5/1.8 GHz on the other less powerful

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: It's currently importing 760 PEF's as I write this. Looks to have 2 major advantages over Aperture, it reads PEF's and it runs on older macs. You'll love it. My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Shell Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:06:38 -0800 You'll love it. My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product names. Lightroom is an OK name, but the code name prior to release was Shadowland, a MUCH cooler name! I was hoping they'd keep that name. Maybe

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: You'll love it. My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product names. Lightroom is an OK name, but the code name prior to release was Shadowland, a MUCH cooler name! I was hoping they'd keep that name. It's partially an answer to

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread David Savage
On 1/9/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll love it. I look forward to the Windows release. From what I've read it sounds like a cool app. And I agree, Shadowland sound much better. Mybe with Lightroom their trying to preserve the highlights :-) My only complaint is that Adobe is too

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product names. Lightroom is an OK name, but the code name prior to release was Shadowland, a MUCH cooler name! I was hoping they'd

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
S: Thanks for posting the link. This looks very interesting, just finished downloading it. Regards the product name: Lightroom is a perfect allusion to the photographic darkroom. Shadowland is cool but means nothing photographically. Can't say I'm happier one way or the other ... what do

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product names. Lightroom is an OK name, but the code name prior to release was Shadowland, a MUCH

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Then again Lightroom is the kind of the opposite of Darkroom, which is at least kind of clever. Bob Shell wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: It's currently importing 760 PEF's as I write this. Looks to have 2 major advantages over Aperture, it reads PEF's and it runs on

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Sorenson
Or maybe to suggest moving print making out of the *darkroom*?? -P Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Adam Maas wrote: My only complaint is that Adobe is too damned conservative in their public product names. Lightroom is an OK

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Glen
At 09:05 AM 1/9/2006, Bob Shell wrote: It's partially an answer to Apple's Aperture, and I love it that Adobe is giving it away for free while Apple is trying to charge an absurdly high price for Aperture. This program isn't intended to remain free, is it? I would expect Adobe to start

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 02:42:34PM -0500, Glen wrote: At 09:05 AM 1/9/2006, Bob Shell wrote: It's partially an answer to Apple's Aperture, and I love it that Adobe is giving it away for free while Apple is trying to charge an absurdly high price for Aperture. This program isn't intended

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Glen wrote: Two more questions: What does this program do that Adobe Bridge, or the Organizer in Photoshop Elements 4 won't do? Aren't these three programs designed to do roughly the same thing? It's a workflow/organizer/RAW editor integration. It is designed

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Glen wrote: At 09:05 AM 1/9/2006, Bob Shell wrote: It's partially an answer to Apple's Aperture, and I love it that Adobe is giving it away for free while Apple is trying to charge an absurdly high price for Aperture. This program isn't intended to remain free, is it? I would expect Adobe

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm looking forward to the Windows version. Sounds like a neat program ... certainly one well worth trying. You say it's more capable than Bridge or Organizer. Have you actually tried it or have you reached that conclusion from the documentation and description on the web site? Shel

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: You say it's more capable than Bridge or Organizer. Have you actually tried it or have you reached that conclusion from the documentation and description on the web site? I don't know anything about Organizer. Based on the little time

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
I played a bit on my Mac this morning, and it's significantly more capable than Bridge as an image management tool. I'm not really familiar with Organizer beyond descriptions, but from them I assume that Organizer is much like iPhoto or Picasa in capability (both of which I have used).

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Jan 2006 at 14:42, Glen wrote: I would expect Adobe to start charging for it, after the beta period is over. If the non-beta release version remains free, this sounds terrific. It's a commercial product, the current release is beta that is still undergoing significant development and

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread keith_w
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Adobe released beta version of Lightroom - application dedicated for digital photography workflow. Contrary to similar Apple's Application - Aperture - it will accept much more varieties of RAW files including Pentax PEFs (just like Camera Raw does), has much lower

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Monday, January 09, 2006, at 04:15PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A warning for those who don't have Macintosh OS 10.4.3 or greater, you cannot download the beta until you DO! I don't know why that would be surprising. It says you need 10.4.3 on the web page you pointed to in the

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I was able to download it on a Windows machine. I guess this once again shows the superiority of Windows LOL Just kidding Shel [Original Message] From: keith_w A warning for those who don't have Macintosh OS 10.4.3 or greater, you cannot download the beta until you DO! keith

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This is silly. I downloaded it on a test machine booted up with Mac OS X v10.3.9. It *requires* 10.4.3 to work, however. Godfrey On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I was able to download it on a Windows machine. I guess this once again shows the superiority of Windows LOL

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread keith_w
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Monday, January 09, 2006, at 04:15PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A warning for those who don't have Macintosh OS 10.4.3 or greater, you cannot download the beta until you DO! I don't know why that would be surprising. It says you need 10.4.3 on the web

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:37 PM, keith_w wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Monday, January 09, 2006, at 04:15PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A warning for those who don't have Macintosh OS 10.4.3 or greater, you cannot download the beta until you DO! I don't know why that would be

Re: Adobe Lightroom free beta is here!

2006-01-09 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:05 AM, Bob Shell wrote: It's partially an answer to Apple's Aperture, and I love it that Adobe is giving it away for free while Apple is trying to charge an absurdly high price for Aperture. And yes, it runs on older Macs. Apple would give me a NFR copy of Aperture,